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1920x1080/50p Import



Frage von hdcsx5:
Februar 2010

Hello!
Since I could not find in this forum have a lot of good info and suggestions,
I signed up and hope maybe an answer to my problem
to get.
I want my s.March available Camcorders "Panasonic VDR-TM700"
purchase. This includes in FullHD 1920x1080/50p.
My editing program Pinnacle Studio Ultim. 14 can only import 1920x1080/50i or 30p and 25p. Also, Sony Vegas 9, I have found no way.
My question would be - there is an NLE that can handle 50p (1920x1080)?
Thank you!



Antwort von Jörg:

Quote:
My question would be - there is an NLE that can handle 50p (1920x1080)?


who should be able to answer this question seriously, without any experience of value?

Premiere, at least there is the possibility to create a desktop project in these dimensions.



Antwort von Marco:

The (native) Processing of 1080p50 in Vegas Pro is not a problem.

Marco
www.vegasforum.de





Antwort von hdcsx5:

Thank you Marco for the quick info. Since I Vegas Pro (hardly know one
my son), I have to "New Project - Templates" does not
HD 1920x1080p 50 found. I want a custom template
Create with 50 fps? What is even more important in the settings?



Antwort von Jörg:

@ Marco
The material runs without a jerk, smooth in Vegas?



Antwort von Marco:

It is for the import and processing of such a file in principle not necessary to adjust the project properties to it. It would be synonymous to function without modification. Nevertheless, it is useful to enable the playback and preview performance is optimized.

The settings, as they show your screenshot are elected with one exception, entirely correct. But change the deinterlacing method necessarily back to the default "mix Fields" (aka synonymous "Interpolate Fields", but in any case, as shown in the screenshot, the option "None")!

You can still synonymous optional setting "Source Media Project, or under render settings can be optimally adapted to activate.

Give the template a meaningful name and then save them for future requests from fast.

If you also ought to work now only with such material, then activated to start the bottom has the entry "All new projects with these settings. Then you need to change in future nothing more.

Marco
www.vegasforum.de



Antwort von Marco:

"The material runs without a jerk, smooth in Vegas?"

Generally, it can 1080p50 judder be played in Vegas Pro. Whether with the format of a camera that is not even on the market, and the case is with a PC, its performance so far, no one knows, I can not say. But that was synonymous not the question.

Vegas Pro is the refresh rate on the Resolutionund any format of 8x8 pixels with 1 fps i / p up to 100 fps with 4096x4096 i / p process and the Project and the preview can be adapted to it. The rest is a matter of special coding and packaging of the video.
Whether it be supported encodings and special containers, can always be less than say if the material is even go through the PC.

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von Jörg:

thanks, I thought you had already durchgeschickt Testfile.
Premiere plays with the format only from strong jerk on desktop project.
Since synonymous no option of a proper export option is available, it means waiting.



Antwort von hdcsx5:

Hi Marco,
Your detailed explanations have helped me a lot.
So now time is already down the software.
There was the question of whether everything is running smoothly. I can only say, of course,
when I have the Cam. For PC - I process for 2 years AVCHD footage, with no major problems with Studio 12 u.14 (in future, probably Vegas).
PC: Intel 4x3GHz CPU / 8 GB RAM / GraKa ATI HD 4870 / Win 7 64bit
Thank you once again!



Antwort von Marco:

I would recommend you to use, despite the 64-bit Windows version of Vegas Pro, primarily in the 32-bit version. You can synonymous parallel to the 64-bit version and use the side, but that is currently recommended more for test applications, not for the normal functioning.

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von wolfgang:

So de facto, it is true that with the just-released Testclip the Panasonic HDC TM 700p this Testclip easily into the current Vegas 9c can be imported. The Projekteigentschaften can be synonymous quickly adjust to 1080 50p (progressive and convert to double Pal, of the 1080 50i template path).

On my older Q6600 with 2.7 GHz and 4 GB of Ram I watch synonymous with the material, the quiet 50 frames in which breaks my swing but a preview of about 15 fps. Ruckelfrei clearly requires a faster computer.

Furthermore, the encoder provides the SonyAVC time of course, not the ability to set the high data rate of the source material - and not synonymous provides the ability to spend 50p material at all.



Antwort von Jitter:

The Testclip can be on my 2x3 Ghz AMD system (modest onboard graphics) to import easily into PD 8 Ultra and play virtually smoothly. Effects and transitions are also immediately when slowed down somewhat synonymous presented. No problems at all! If there was still the possibility to spend in 1080p50, I could start working consistently with the new format. So throw away your old PC is not premature!
Who can play the test file already, should try the following. Running the 50p and 50i, the recordings in the pan once a single frame with the passages s.and compares the motion resolution and sharpness of 50p and 50i. The difference is significant



Antwort von Marco:

An edition in the format 1920x1080p50 from Vegas Pro 9 out is possible, for example as SonyAVC as MainConcept MP4, WMV than when uncompressed AVI, as DPX sequences and in some other variants.

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von hdcsx5:

Hello Wolfgang,
You can post the link for 50p Testclip the Panasonic HDC-TM700.
I can only find a Testfile 50i:
(http://www.videoaktiv.de/Testvideos/Panasonic/Testvideo-50i-Panasonic-HDC-TM-700-P.html).



Antwort von wolfgang:

True, the issue is a real possibility in SonyAVC encoder, if the Blu Ray 1080 50i template assumes that the profiles on "high" surrounded (in addition to the conversion to 50p and progressive). You can also adjust synonymous of AVC in mp4.

The data rate can, however, does not appear to increase more than 20 mbps, which is in view of the data rate of the original material is rather low.

Of the AVCHD template produces the output 1080 50p did not succeed with me - because there I can not even convert to 50p.



Antwort von wolfgang:

http://www.videoaktiv.de/201002193494/News/Camcorders/Panasonic-50p-Offensive-HDC-TM-700-Camcorders-Test-Videos.html

And there Testvideo 5OP



Antwort von Marco:

Yes, SonyAVC is inside of Vegas on the data rate being gagged a little bad. But with the MainConcept MP4 version are available as data rates up to 200 Mbps.
But in total, and let Vegas 1080p50 regardless of the established standards yet to be seen, it is questionable whether a H.264-compressed output format would be for the moment at all meaningful. There are indeed alternatives.

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von wolfgang:

The next limitation is yes - the DVDA5 While accepting the import of mp4 50p material, but it always re-encoded. And a Blu Ray will anyway have not 50p.

Playable but perhaps the material would be capable of AVC Media Player - emphasis on might. In the home would be a solution if the material would be playable.

Unfortunately, works for me so far is not the synonymous exporting as mpeg2 HD 50p from Vegas herraus. Others think it would work.

Alternatives? What the? wmv-HD would hold on forever when encoding.



Antwort von Alf_300:

Hab mir mal test the 1080p50 video video of Activision and brought with Premiere CS3 and MainConcept plugin synonymous with whom I invite the other MTS gibts no problems. Normal as if everything would not be.
Only store in p50 does not work, the encoder too much (bitrates to High)

What strikes me here that the right picture in Adobe Premiere is a little bigger.



Antwort von Jörg:

Quote:
Since synonymous no option of a proper export option is available, it means waiting.


Since I correct my own views: In the Media Encoder can be very much an export to MP4 file and export 108050p set correctly.



Antwort von Alf_300:

@
Since I correct my own views: In the Media Encoder can be very much an export to MP4 file and export 108050p set correctly

That's Right (; 2 passes 1:10)



Antwort von Marco:

"Alternatives?" What the? "

For example, QuickTime Player Play MPEG-4. Runs on PC, Mac and players such as the WD TV.

I would save it, but rather in a higher quality picture and wait until he has established appropriate standards. Because Avid DNxHD would be an alternative or synonymous uncompressed AVI (RGB or YUV).

But whether it all worthwhile in what they fabricated Camera da ...

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von wolfgang:

After the recent test video of the VAD is hardly worth it. Uncompressed material in which case shame about the space.




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