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24GB - Film (90min. inkl. DVD-Menü) auf DVD?

24GB - film (90min. including DVD menu) on DVD?



Frage von TheDrummer:
Mai 2006

Hi, folks!

I s.Laufen a project that is waiting only to burn it!
Have the animated menu in Apple iDVD made.
The final data have a large of 24GB.
Now I have iDVD times to count and time on DVD averted ..

The disappointment was great! - Soo lousy quality!

lies s.iDVD? - I'll try soon with dual-layer DVDs - I am just waiting to see the result!

Nor are YOUR Tips & Tricks in stock?

THX schon mal!



Antwort von dietl:

Make it stop 10 DVDs ...



Antwort von Nightfly!:

Moin moin!

If at a bit rate below 6000 and operate an audio compression.

Of course VBR.

Theoretically, I would have said:
"Take a good encoder (Procoder or Cinema Craft) and then klappts synonymous with the quality"

Gruß,
Nightfly





Antwort von dietl:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Make it stop 10 DVDs ...


So on such useless comments, it could really do without it?

that's neither useful nor funny!

@ nightfly: erstmal THX for your sensible answer;)
you do not happen to know WHERE you can adjust the bit rate in iDVD!?

If not - you'd practically PREVIOUSLY convert to MPEG2 and then only "author"?



Antwort von beiti:

In what format the data is available because if they have 24 GB? Even in DV or already in MPEG2?
In other words, how long are the movies) as a whole (approximately?



Antwort von dietl:

The material I've recorded in HDV, converted by Cam on SD, recorded in the Mac via FireWire, cut into FinalCut Express and
"as a stand-alone movie," secured.

What exactly is that now - unfortunately I do not know (I am ashamed myself synonymous) that, because there are no controls and the format is synonymous nowhere ...
when I go to the properties of the file, we see no suffix, but only: "Final Cut Express" movie file.

(the manual is that you in this way films exported to iDVD)



Antwort von beiti:

That is completely normal DV format, ie it is 4.5 minutes per GB movie. Your entire film should therefore be good for 100 minutes, so it should still fit in good quality on a DVD - if the encoder used, what sort.
Unfortunately, I do not know, and iDVD can not say anything. Maybe it just s.den settings.

PS: What have you compared the quality to be able to say that it is lousy?



Antwort von dietl:

well, I'm still the quality of cut in the eye! ;)
The problem is the fact that iDVD rather what kind of noobs * g *
... because not many gibz Controls:



I know this is laughable, but Ideal for short films, because so simple and fast!
naja - and now I would have tried it with an approx 100min. film, but
the quality is really lousy - (synonymous s.Television is the compression profile)



Antwort von PowerMac:

Encode directly from FCE in Mpeg2 VBR?



Antwort von TheDrummer:

does not really work - there is no way to do this - or at least I have not yet found: (

edit: I now know why synonymous: - I do not have Quicktime PRO!



Antwort von TheDrummer:

OK - in the next few days, I get the Final Cut Studio - so there should be funz not it?

nochwas: I have installed now a DL-DVD-Burners.
coding is now visible in the movie to iDVD option to 8GB.
... I'm just trying times:
The image is only 5.5 GB in size and the quality is not noticeably better!



Antwort von beiti:

Moreover, DL blanks yet to be incompatible with many DVD players.



Antwort von TheDrummer:

"beiti" wrote:
Moreover, DL blanks yet to be incompatible with many DVD players.


Really? - Re-learned what ...



Antwort von kerberos:

But this is only true for older appliances.

Most new movies are already compressed to DL DVDs. Therefore, most newer devices can easily handle it.



Antwort von beiti:

Quote:
Most new movies are already compressed to DL DVDs. Therefore, most newer devices can easily handle it.
Pressed DL discs can play all the players - that was one of the top s.zur DVD specification and was never a problem. But self-burned DL DVDs are a completely different case.



Antwort von PowerMac:

With Final Cut Pro Studio you get a very good quality. Pro finalcutpro.de when you read something in the forum, a ... + Manual of DVD Studio;)



Antwort von kerberos:

"beiti" wrote:
Quote:
Most new movies are already compressed to DL DVDs. Therefore, most newer devices can easily handle it.
Pressed DL discs can play all the players - that was one of the top s.zur DVD specification and was never a problem. But self-burned DL DVDs are a completely different case.
Achso, sorry, I did read over ....



Antwort von fabriquez:

We work synonymous with Final Cut Pro. Our approach is somewhat different, since we use the Procoder to encode. This means:

Mac: Creating movie, QT to play out as the best quality. When you play this QT on a PC, it looks awful.

PC: encode with ProCoder 2.0 MPEG-2 elementary stream. Quality setting as you need it.

PC: Adobe Encore -> ertsellen the Insert menu, etc., the MPEG-2 data.

Done. ;)

You certainly need is a clever DVD program, I think iDVD is only for n00bs. :)



Antwort von TheDrummer:

in'n few days I'm not getting the Pro bundle with DVD Studio Pro;)

I meld me again: D



Antwort von TheDrummer:

Hi, folks!

I have installed now the FINAL CUT STUDIO.

What would you PRO's? Propose

-> Export via FinalCutPro? - What settings?
-> By Compressor?
-> Different approach?

Thanks in advance!



Antwort von PowerMac:

The timeline / sequence play out directly via COmpressor. Depending on the length (how long is the movie?) Good for you as 7 Mbps 2x pass VBR book.
Or synonymous only 6.5 MBIT VBR.



Antwort von TheDrummer:

The film is now approximately 100min. long (excl. DVD menus)

the Compressor one can only "DVD quality, min 120min. and 90." Setting - this is as aver. 5.0MBit and bitrate as max. Bitrate 7.5MBit set.

so I at 100min. I would have to come to aver. 4.6 bitrate to make.

is the quality noh OK, or there would have been appropriate to a DL blank?

THX!



Antwort von Nightfly!:

"Anonymous" wrote:


@ nightfly: erstmal THX for your sensible answer;)
you do not happen to know WHERE you can adjust the bit rate in iDVD!?

If not - you'd practically PREVIOUSLY convert to MPEG2 and then only "author"?


If your authoring program does not necessarily want to re-encode everything, I would encode it before with the encoder of my choice and incorporate into the finished authoring program.

Gruß,
Nightfly!



Antwort von TheDrummer:

"Nightfly" wrote:


If your authoring program does not necessarily want to re-encode everything, I would encode it before with the encoder of my choice and incorporate into the finished authoring program.

Gruß,
Nightfly!


OK - let's say my choice would Compressor (on advice) my question now is: HOW do I export with good quality and fits the movie back in an acceptable quality on a DVD5 disc?

THX!



Antwort von PowerMac:

Yes but count yourself you have 100 minutes. The DVD has 4000 MB. You can to 1-10 Mbit / s encoding. Then there is the further the sound. That you have to figure out yourself. Do not ask all the time. Read your views the PDF with the help of DVD Studio Pro. And do so. Then such questions never come;)



Antwort von TheDrummer:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Yes but count yourself you have 100 minutes. The DVD has 4000 MB. You can to 1-10 Mbit / s encoding. Then there is the further the sound. That you have to figure out yourself. Do not ask all the time. Read your views the PDF with the help of DVD Studio Pro. And do so. Then such questions never come;)


Yeah, PowerMac - you with your famous and serene answers ...

I'm not the type that represents the immediately ask for every little thing ...
... the problem is that I have NO TIME, I read through it all and expect to try out and then ...

Believe me, if I had time I would identify empirically, if necessary, before I you PRO's with my NOOB questions nerve ...

Another problem is yes, I already had a finished iDVD menu zugeschneidert (On the movie) because I had not previously DVDSTUDIOPRO yes.
Therefore, I will indeed synonymous export the movie into MPEG2 and then build "simple" (?) In iDVD in the hope that more iDVD NOT re-encoded and I have my good quality ...

I apologize, and hope to get more purposeful Answers Relating to

Certainly the patient posters THANK YOU!



Antwort von jeantier:

Somehow I peil here now, just not everything.

So what I've noticed is:

- 100 minutes movie on DVD including extras
- Concern for DVD10 (DL), as not fully compatible
- If DVD5 the encoding quality is not the desired
- Thou shalt take and what settings

Somehow it just all sorts of Cerberus discussing optimal settings for conversion

Otherwise lad'Dir nen bitrate calculator and even count down (as has PowerMac) rather quite simple.

Some double-layer just to make cheap equipment trouble. But most of this depends on the (crap, my partner is responsible for DVDs - I do not know the technical term from) nature, and how to change where the layers.

I'd try ner's with variable bit rate 2pass if your work involves standing sufficient elements, shrinking the already pretty intense. Down menus and separators to 4Mbit. Compress the sound synonymous.

Or hunt through a Mac Ämbivalent of DVD Shrink.

But the best solution is to DVD10 and a clean authoring.



Antwort von TheDrummer:

Hi, folks!

Now I have to render a couple of test sequences ...
synonymous with the settings for a DVD-9 a pixel picture always comes out :-(

no preference whether 1pass, 2pass, VBR, ...

what is the reason?
(all) via Compressor



Antwort von PowerMac:

How can this be?

On bad source material, for example. Ask for finalcutpro.de evocative. The chew with you through each setting.
Where did you check the quality? On the Mac? PC? DVD player?



Antwort von TheDrummer:

... lies s.Ausgangsmaterial - that was the first thing that occurred to me is synonymous, because logically, but it is normal DV and SD s.PowerMac ;-) sees the real pixelated from (s.PC will not be any different .. .



Antwort von PowerMac:

There is not a normal SD DV. It just comes with Mpeg2 on a quiet, stable picture with little noise. Rustles your Picture? You pan all the time? This could be the solution. Possibly. would be a Denoiser, ie, a noise filter idea. But it can rob sharpness. I tend to type in a wrong setting somewhere. S.besten control mpeg2 encoded a short clip online. What is under 30 MB. And not in Rapidshare;)



Antwort von TheDrummer:

to order! * g *
Here is the File: http://www.creatiphotos.org/Test_105min.m2v
(23MB)

if you (the edges of the beach such as arms test), you see a severe staircase effect!



Antwort von PowerMac:

It looks okay. Mal ne DVD and burn it to look s.Television.

But I would not take 4:3, special anamorphic 4:3, so 16:9. When converting from Final Cut Pro to Compressor you choose "DVD Best Quality 90 min 16:9"

If errors still occur, is perhaps the Halbbilddomianz wrong.



Antwort von TheDrummer:

Now I'll have with 16:9 coded (2-pass, VBR)

So, unfortunately, distorted the picture ... And the quality is not synonymous as I find better ...
http://www.creatiphotos.org/Test_110min._169.m2v




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