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3 Sony Kameras zur Auswahl

3 Sony cameras Choice



Frage von fussel:
Mai 2007

I want me for some short film projects, a new Camera growth. Now I Schwanke between the following three:

1. SonyHDR FX-7

2. SonyHVR-A1E HDV

3. SonyDCR-VX2100

Number one is to test reportedly hold good colors, and an optical Image Stabilization.
Number two has not, this is the sound professional and it is good 300-400 euros cheaper. The money can be better then other equipment plug
Number three is not HD, but has good color synonymous, and the best low-light feature. That is the price still unverschäm high, when you see that DV actually dies.

Another fundamental question: Better Cam and more expensive to buy accessories for worse or better and worse Cam accessories?



Antwort von Wolfpeter-Hans-Dieter:

FX7.
Better a better cam and less / worse accessories!
Because you're good with the Picture (affordable) accessories not synonymous großartig can improve. If you now have a bad cam, you can like a crazy good buy accessories, but I think this is when what you really want to change quite expensive ...



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

What is important is synonymous the picture in 4:3 mode, the Vx2100 first choice, in 16:9, however the other two.








Antwort von Peter06:

Was this question seriously? Clearly the FX7.

In this price range I would not put more on DV. And if you already have a mistake to spend money, then equal to the FX7, with the longer you'll be happy.



Antwort von Frank B.:

In the price category between 2000 - and 3000, - Euro (street price) gibts synonymous nor SonyFX 1, a slightly older but in some aspects of FX 7 on superior model. For a few hundred more you can synonymous Canon A1, probably the best device in this price class, but some s.Fachwissen requires.

Frank



Antwort von schnuffelkalli:

"Frank B." wrote:
In the price category between 2000 - and 3000, - Euro (street price) gibts synonymous nor SonyFX 1, a slightly older but in some aspects of FX 7 on superior model.

... and some other charges under superior model!
gruß cj



Antwort von Frank B.:

"Anonymous" wrote:

... and some other charges under superior model!
gruß cj


That is probably true. However, one should carefully choose which of these aspects (features) a more important. So always nice to compare and then decide. Compare you can but only if you know that there is an option. Hence my reference to the 1st FX

Frank



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"Frank B." wrote:
In the price category between 2000 - and 3000, - Euro (street price) gibts synonymous nor SonyFX 1, a slightly older but in some aspects of FX 7 on superior model.

... and some other charges under superior model!
gruß cj


The all say the FX1 instead of the FX7 bought! Besides the zoom there is nothing better I think.



Antwort von MadEyedMoose:

ensure the FX1? Does not Verlgeich to a worse resolution FX7? is at least in Slashcam test



Antwort von usul:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:
The all say the FX1 instead of the FX7 bought! Besides the zoom there is nothing better I think.

Of course, these people say that because of the advantages and disadvantages of both cameras have against one another (and even then really one of the cameras have purchased).
Alone significantly reduced the weight was for me a clear reason for the purchase FX7 what we ever would have at least 2 points, with the FX7 better.



Antwort von MadEyedMoose:

"usul" wrote:
"Udo Schröer" wrote:
The all say the FX1 instead of the FX7 bought! Besides the zoom there is nothing better I think.

Of course, these people say that because of the advantages and disadvantages of both cameras have against one another (and even then really one of the cameras have purchased).
Alone significantly reduced the weight was for me a clear reason for the purchase FX7 what we ever would have at least 2 points, with the FX7 better.


If I had fear of speed, I would not synonymous Porsche buy.

The weight as a reason to buy, then you better buy the HC1 which is even easier.



Antwort von usul:

"Anonymous" wrote:
The weight as a reason to buy, then you better buy the HC1 which is even easier.

On such a "clever" remark I have already waited. Is always interesting to see how other people know my needs better than myself Or maybe not?








Antwort von Udo Schröer:

"usul" wrote:
"Anonymous" wrote:
The weight as a reason to buy, then you better buy the HC1 which is even easier.

On such a "clever" remark I have already waited. Is always interesting to see how other people know my needs better than myself Or maybe not?


This should not clever remark, but seriously, just because of the Cam Sonyin small cmos chips are processed, this has become smaller and lighter. The quality has not served.

I can not see this advantage.

And those who value on a lightweight scheduling, which is the world with super-small but open Cams. To me the weight would be important, I would have of me with the new Panasonic 3CCD AVCHD and SD card technology with growth.



Antwort von MadEyedMoose:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:

The all say the FX1 instead of the FX7 bought! Besides the zoom there is nothing better I think.


but
zb. a sharp image!
gruß cj



Antwort von usul:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:
I can not see this advantage.
And those who value on a lightweight scheduling, which is the world with super-small but open Cams. To me the weight would be important, I would have of me with the new Panasonic 3CCD AVCHD and SD card technology with growth.


And another one:) A FX7 with an AVCHD SD to compare with is reichtlich skuril.

So synonymous for you again: Just because YOU see no advantage to it, it does not mean that the other it is synonymous.
Perhaps yes, you can just accept that not all people share your assessment (which is synonymous is one reason that there is THE best camera does not exist).



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Well, if you had read the tests, you would know that it is virtually no difference between AVCHD and HDV are. Do not synonymous to me since I had even a FX1.

Of course, everyone has different priorities and Kaufkreterien. I'm trying my opinion synonymous anyone aufzudrängen!

But I will tell synonymous None the small chips of the FX7 as well as the 1 / 3 "of the 1st FX



Antwort von sony34:

If your short film scenes in low light conditions (dusk, etc.) should occur, then the VX 2100 is unbeatable. As can be synonymous or the FX 1 FX 7 at far not keep pace.



Antwort von MadEyedMoose:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:
But I will tell synonymous None the small chips of the FX7 as well as the 1 / 3 "of the 1st FX


making yes synonymous None,
s.ende only FX7 provides a sharper image
and that's an ...
and when needed via HDMI and black magic
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/quality/
synonymous a higher quality.
gruß cj

ps. The FX1 has the advantage in lowlight and in wide angle



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"Udo Schröer" wrote:
But I will tell synonymous None the small chips of the FX7 as well as the 1 / 3 "of the 1st FX


making yes synonymous None,
s.ende only FX7 provides a sharper image
and that's an ...
and when needed via HDMI and black magic
http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/quality/
synonymous a higher quality.
gruß cj

ps. The FX1 has the advantage in lowlight and in wide angle


As saith the layman,

A sharp picture, you can synonymous with a pixel to make!

The purpose is to produce a video as far as possible to the originals comes. The subjective impression decides whether a video is good or bad. Whether the camera a line more or less can be is irrelevant.

Footage is not better because it is a high Resolutionhat, but because it appears homogeneous. Pixels are virtually non-existent or not visible.

The interplay of color, sharpness, image flow and makes it



Antwort von WINner:

Nett said.

But what is everything Mr. Fussel benefit?



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Absolutely true
So again

At 4:3 shots and low light: SonyDCR-VX2100e
In 16:9 recording: SonyHDR-FX1 of me FX7 HDR-synonymous

All cams are making good shots, while the value of the Camera in the FX1 - FX7 to be stable.








Antwort von MadEyedMoose:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:

1.The idea is to produce a video to the greatest extent possible to the originals comes.

2.The Subjective impression decides whether a video is good or bad.

3.Filmmaterial is not better because it is a high Resolutionhat, but because it appears homogeneous.


to
1. hmm, the original, so our eye is hardly deep unschärfe
and still wants to have
2. precisely and therefore a sharp object in the room felt as beautiful, especially with deep unschärfe is zooming in with the FX7 quite solvable.
3.How do you mean? in digital photography has been a synonymous
high resolution and homogeneous images (flowers photos)
gruß cj

ps. focus in the postpro weichzuzeichnen is simple, focus almost impossible to get.



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Hello Guest,

For 1 Our eye has extreme depth blur, it is not possible for us two objects at the same time to look sharp. The human eye can only focus on a sharp point, the rest we take, but blurred. Test: Put a letter on the table, look next to it, you'll see the letter the text but can not read.

To. 2. I do not deny that the zoom of the FX7 is excellent, this is an advantage of the FX7, but with my 12 X zoom, I have a focal range of 390mm to me the perfect.

To. 3. I felt real 35mm film, it is homogeneous, sharp and has some nice colors.

We find our shooting at other things annoying Bildruckler caused by "only 25 images. Lines flickering through the interlaced mode and color by the weak Farbsampling. Of the videos of today are very good, but content is not yet as in the movies.



Antwort von Frank B.:

Only a few points here which I am to purchase the FX 1 compared to the FX 7 have moved:

- Better wide
- Better (larger) image converter
- Better display (in equipment and fitting)
- Improved manual Tonaussteuerung
- Higher weight (no joke)

s.der FX 7 have irritated me the following points:

- Larger zoom
- HDMI port
- Separate setting of Zebra and Peaking

The decision was, as I said for the FX 1, because of film / video technical point of view, really the most benefits to their Page subject. A friend bought the FX 7th I have a feeling we both have done nothing wrong;). But I would not exchange synonymous. A little annoying for me is that I have about 500 to 600 euro price difference for the Canon A1 could no longer afford. But who knows what it is good. I'm still more than satisfied.

Frank




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