Frage von Asjoker:
Hi,
I want me a good and cheap as possible static 35mm adapter built. Until now, however, I see black,
because I have to inform garnicht weiterkomme. Would be nice if you give me a few tips you could give, here are the questions as
1st what is the distance between camera lens and screen required?
2nd How do I know how big this gap should be?
3rd same two questions relating to the distance between the second and additional lens in front of the screen.
Why and how long?
4 Where a homemade GG (The Mattscheibe?) Recommended? For example, those of Daniels
Tutorial> LINK < So I can so that optimum quality for SD achieve?
5th It is probably not a cheap adapter HD Capable to make
but I can at a price of 200 ¬ still top quality for SD / DV / PAL expect?
So, I still had questions about 1697 but I would be grateful if you seehr I could answer this one:)
--- Note: extremely long link of Admin reformatted --- EDIT: So I move the Picture nochma here. Why? Because there is so many out of curiosity on 35mm adapters will click on them the picture certainly saves a lot:
zum Bild Note: There are often even more UV filter in front and behind the screen to be built to protect against dirt, also is the holder Matt slices with a vibrating adapter a little different. PS: The answer to the question I think is too much distortion and a few cameras have a minimum distance (the HV30 looks had not). But once I know more I think it editable.
Antwort von ef.multimedia:
www.35mm-adapter.de
Antwort von Asjoker:
Yes as an answer I expected ...
I've said but I can not find the information! Synonymous not just on the page and not synonymous to the 1000 other (mostly British and therefore difficult to understand) pages. I'm really s.verzweifeln, since it is not so bad times a little bit to write to someone else to help him and save etweilige depression.
Please ... I really do not come next grad
If it really is just my stupidity then please give me an exact link where everything is explained. The basic principle yes, I understand and have been synonymous several adapter built angegugt or videos and tuts and How To's gegugt. But everywhere, only said "build the rings to have the screen here, and since then Step Up / Step Down Rings ncoh and the remaining tubes together, the front still Bayonett NEN drauf"
That helps me a little while but we still understand does nothing ...
* sigh *
Antwort von ef.multimedia:
You can not but other people can search for you. Should I tell you now Antorten to your questions from the Page rauskopieren nicely formatted and post here?
Antwort von Asjoker:
No, the question was not addressed s.Beginners like me but s.die,
the idea of more and have no longer have to search for the info because they already know.
To people who may not have the problem every time to lose the overview and the confused,
it says it will have or have learned through experience.
What can be so bad, one of the not come because he is a wrong way of thinking has always bewildered themselves and will sometimes help?
There are forums to share experiences but because next to someone and times under the arms to grasp ...
Why so many constantly rumsurfen and after Noobfragen look only with a "Find it in Google"
or "Information about this but even" to answer, I do not understand. Perhaps you have found it yourself,
schön - ich habs but it failed to tell me would be too good-natured wa?
Initially I have with the questions, perhaps exaggerated, so I synonymous weeks've desperately tried to obtain all the information themselves,
but if I then garnicht really helped ...
naja why I write here ... You're right! I should inform myself.
Antwort von ef.multimedia:
No, the question was not addressed s.Beginners like me but s.die,
the idea of more and have no longer have to search for the info because they already know. The link was not for me but for you.
Antwort von raymaker:
The first three questions I have linked with the HP can answer.
Daniel kannste forget Matt washers are better. Moreover, the good Lord is either a racist or tax cheats;)
At five, I can say that we certainly Adapter HD-Capable can be. But that goes in the 300 ¬.
Antwort von robbie:
"Sorry but I do not sell to Germany! No shipping to Germany!" LOL ...
Antwort von fantomaz:
the optimum 35mm adapter for your cam to find is not so simple, yet much harder it is to face his own to build the best as you say quality promises. there will be weeks and sometimes months to getüftelt your questions and show me that thou art far away. I would you recommend an adapter ready to buy. (Www.hv20.com) on this page are a couple of the guys (lower cost) and build adapters so zw $ 300-500 selling synonymous because you really learn everything about 35mm adapter, but in English. There are basically vele opportunities. There is spinning, vibrating or static adapters zw $ 200 for self-made - 5000 $ and more.
@ 1: to go far enough in the gg to zoom in and thus to avoid vignetting. For this reason, an achromat synonymous highly recommended that the increases and helps.
@ 2: try because there are not a panacea, which comes to gg or achromat s.bzw on the interplay between all parts, as is about mm.
@ 3: why? naja so that the slr linse possible sharp image on the gg criticizes and best, yet produces a nice bokeh.
@ 4: I use a self-made synonymous gg but not of daniel, but because there are many possibilities .....
@ 5: an adapter is endefect be as good as gg, its linse slr, his and his achromat condenser. each of the adapters with dv fuzt should be synonymous for hd work. but if for example the structure of gg is too rough, you see these structures in the (hd) because of better image resolution. zb helps because if the vibrating gg ....
.... Daniel kannste forget .... is probably a joke daniel's tutorial is still one of the best and I have been synonymous with his good footage gg's view .... try and test you have to stop myself even more.
regards
Antwort von raymaker:
"Sorry but I do not sell to Germany! No shipping to Germany!" LOL ... Just a question. Tax fraud or a racist - and I stick to it.
Antwort von Asjoker:
Fantomaz Thank you! Such responses are
rare the only reason for remaining in my forums.
Among the answers: Advance: I am now informed for weeks in vain. While I'm out, thanks to confusion and lack of resources or
lack of English skills is not as far as I wanted but I did it to me anyway in their heads a self-build. Have until now only the extension tubes (between rings) purchased the rest, I am still unsure whether we should do it yourself or buy or if you purchase something. So if we convey a Achromats need (see question 1) whether perhaps even the glasses of a binoculars, a purchase is necessary, the screen itself can make the GG Holder or the screen itself. But since I was really informed ankotzt experementier I now just start editing away ...
@ 1: I said why you removed the screen and zooms in so far as only then so far a the vignetting is no longer visible?
I think that it's better but the screen almost directly in front of the camcorder to place.
Then we should not so much zoom in and would not even Nahlinse (or Achromats). Nevertheless it would be close enough to turn the screen to fill in everything and to prevent Vignetierungen.
I have the times recorded for better understanding:
zum Bild @ 2: OK, thank you then I can at least adjust the search. Hab mir 2 Between ring bought packs of Canon should give me enough leeway.
@ 3: K, thanks
@ 4: Jop we will try something myself. Would only like to know exactly how extreme it really should be.
So obs really microscopic Gröbung goes or something man with the eye itself can appreciate.
@ 5: What is a condenser?
I only assumed the vibrating very expensive to build because all are vibrating so expensive to be sold.
But the reason I do not really see ... the only change is a little cheaper and a smart engine Abdämpfung + cable and control unit so I will try to produce a vibrant yet to build.
Is there really synonymous realtiv inexpensive disks Matt even statically for HD would be rich? Say where you are at the granularity Mattscheibe still not in HD looks?
6: Achromat, screen holder, Mattscheibe - where would you have a Purchase and where a self recommend?
So long ...
Antwort von fantomaz:
hi asjoker,
@ 1 the problem is you have to be yes, finally, the entire focus and full-screen images sharp (in focus) abfilmen and that's just with a little extra space and achromat, the additionally magnified images possible.
@ 3 you have to work so closely in mm flat area. with very good eyes ... maybe :-). I would suggest you create a static adapter to build, because with some engine problems to come along and we must work more closely. eg if the focus screen is not 100% is synonymous vibrates the screen in the "z-axis" which leads to unschärfe he vibrates or too little impurities disappear s.screen not too strong then you can see the vibration or the motor becomes loud ....
for a static adapter is the problem, first, is any impurity on the screen in the picture looks (screens to sift out) and secondly a good (fine) used focus screen. Never focus screen with finger touch. always with gloves and only s.den edge attack. but you can static adapters synonymous with very good results.
there are different matte discs (focus screens) like the canon ee-a ee-s, or from growing. körnung which is of course particularly important in the static adapters. the 'invisible' for hd gibts glaub ich nicht.
@ 5 is a CONDENSOR comes zw Mattscheibe and 35mm lens and a plano convex lens in the general picture improved. mainly distributes the light through the 35mm lens will focus equally on the screen and thus reduces vignetting (dark corners in the image) and hotspots in the building ... are relatively cheap. Incidentally, the canon and eea ees condeser the screens have been included.
http://35mmadapter.blogspot.com/2008/08/35mm-adapter-condenser-shedding-some.html
SLR> Condenser> GG> achromat
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incidentally, still in the HV20 forum could you imagine a vibrating adapter for $ 300 to buy, roughly only $ 50 more than the purchase price of each share is located. zb the jag35 is always better and has as synonymous DIY project begun and is, so to speak, you already miles ahead. with the duty to 300euro, because you should be clear about the drunterbleiben else in my opinion the better solution. http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=10580&highlight=jag35
wanted to take a self-build, habs me out but after a long time and her mind about. I've heard some of her own adapter was ultimately more expensive than purchases. ultimately it was for me then rng35.com and I am very happy with it.
regards
fz
Antwort von domain:
I would be the last statement even expand so that in fact these adapters are problematic at all and only amateur in the field may be open for discussion ..
They all work just as good as no more than a scanner, the presentation of a (screen) creates a duplicate and duplicates are never original and good.
In addition, there are so many problems the way, focus, monitor screen upside, fluff, vibrations, simply impractical to go no more.
We prefer to wait in an affordable 1 inch sensors for camcorders or digital cameras with much larger sensors, which may be synonymous filming.
Antwort von fantomaz:
amateur, I would not say it gitb many professionals use the 35mm adapter. red because I am certainly not of high budget film but a lot of movies professionally do live like. wedding videos event videos and commercials even in professional musikvideos.
generally allow you to use a DOF adapter 'only' as a tool with which you see in the depth intervenes. there is thus a stylistic means to do so (by the way, better than any filter in the post) filmed on the very interesting and movie-like as to put in scene. The adapter makes a very good tool and can be the difference.
we must not stop believing that you look at the adapter to its cam and throws in the gegend herumläuft and losschießt and it gets super shots for that! because not only the result of genuine film can come close but synonymous shooting up the preparation.
with a certain qulitätsverlust you but quite naturally under the right conditions (lots of light, prime lens and experience) you can keep the difference with your eyes no longer represent.
fz
