3CCD MiniDV used for semi-professional use under 500 ¬?
Frage von bk.berlin: November 2010
Hello in the round,
The more I read here, the more confused I am ... What cam should I just buy?
What do they (as I have learned from the great post above on this page) should have in any case: - DV - In - 1 / 3 or 1 / 2 " - Microphone input (possible XLR) - Headphone output - Optical Image Stabilization - Inlet / outlet for Lens
In the short list so far are Canon XM1 / 2 (the latter of course basically too expensive), Panasonic NV-GS400 / 500 or SonyTRV 900E / VX1000/2000. Can you recommend me something else?
Ebay these cameras are proud to be part prices übern counter, for an old XM1 (8-9 years) it still has to shell out just under 500 ¬. Is that normal price level or too expensive for such an old sweetheart?
To which model would you advise me if I invest for the "naked" camera than 500 ¬, but still a decent quality (online and TV) would like to have?
Thanks for your help and greetings from Berlin!
Benno
Antwort von Jitter:
I would reconsider s.Deiner place again, 500 ¬ for used to output DV technology. A defect in such a vintage car and you have to shell out a lot more in addition. For your budget is of the newer models only Panasonic 400/500 in question. The master synonymous only one in the list of your 16:9.
Antwort von kalle70:
Beware of Ebay purchases!
Such older baby I would only during commercial Dealers (return), or buy after radical view.
I have long sought a TRV900. 5 pieces bought on ebay, none was really good. All were "Tip Top", "little used" SEL. offered.
Antwort von Räuber:
"Bk.berlin" wrote:
a decent quality (online and TV) would like to have?
Benno
Hi, I'm not a pro, but if you want to produce for synonymous's TV, you will come with a used camera probably not too far. Maybe you should your budget for your ambitious objectives to reconsider (or adjust the budget at the targets).
Helps you now not next really, but defining your project for you exactly. I was a bit too hasty synonymous and I had bought the FX1000. Now I miss the XLR connections and will probably take a camera because of the change in the eye.
Much continued success!
Greetings, Stefan
Antwort von bk.berlin:
Hi Stefan,
I had feared! What do you mean what I would have to start my budget to get something decent?
Used cameras need not necessarily be so bad or worn out, but with a nearly ten year old machine I have synonymous so my fears.
I wanted to go for the first time with a cheap camera s.den start, because the relationship "purchases required" to "existing capital" is just very awkward and I thought to myself, if it is better again, what can I still fancy new (HD) yet.
Greetings Benny
Hi, I'm not a pro, but if you want to produce for synonymous's TV, you will come with a used camera probably not too far. Maybe you should your budget for your ambitious objectives to reconsider (or adjust the budget at the targets).
Helps you now not next really, but defining your project for you exactly. I was a bit too hasty synonymous and I had bought the FX1000. Now I miss the XLR connections and will probably take a camera because of the change in the eye.
Much continued success!
Greetings, Stefan [/ quote]
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Jitter" wrote:
I would reconsider s.Deiner place again, 500 ¬ for used to output DV technology. A defect in such a vintage car and you have to shell out a lot more in addition. For your budget is of the newer models only Panasonic 400/500 in question. The master synonymous only one in the list of your 16:9.
Would you say then that the Panasonic 400/500 are good cameras? Do you have experience with them?
How old should a used cam to be in your opinion?
Which I have been in sight, all between six and ten years old, and at the head hours, most sellers keep more covers ...
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Kalle70" wrote:
Beware of Ebay purchases!
Such older baby I would only during commercial Dealers (return), or buy after radical view.
I have long sought a TRV900. 5 pieces bought on ebay, none was really good. All were "Tip Top", "little used" SEL. offered.
Yes, the with the Ebay sellers is such a thing! You get to questions rather vague statements such as "Camera is about eight years or a bit older," "Head of hours, I do not know, but it has been used only twice a year" and so next and so on.
Where did you buy your TRV900 ultimately? Are you with her happy?
Antwort von Klappe:
Tach synonymous,
I have a NV-GS400, used in the cabinet. Which is synonymous for sale.
Is for sale I have of course written specially so that my experience can be exposed as pure advertising. No, seriously, it is a solid camcorder that has never given problems. Little or no drop-outs. Overall, the cam quite a sharp picture, but something käpft with point light sources and then smeared a little. Manual Wheel s.Lens works very well. What is a bit strange, is the 4:3 LCD with 16:9 representing the Nerds. Otherwise, I find it so spontaneously nothing negative one.
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Flap" wrote:
Tach synonymous,
I have a NV-GS400, used in the cabinet. Which is synonymous for sale.
Is for sale I have of course written specially so that my experience can be exposed as pure advertising. No, seriously, it is a solid camcorder that has never given problems. Little or no drop-outs. Overall, the cam quite a sharp picture, but something käpft with point light sources and then smeared a little. Manual Wheel s.Lens works very well. What is a bit strange, is the 4:3 LCD with 16:9 representing the Nerds. Otherwise, I find it so spontaneously nothing negative one.
What makes for the cabinet? Since it is not out yet ;-))
Nah seriously, how old is she, how much running and what price You have such ideas?
Antwort von Klappe:
It is there but not naked, but sleeps in her bag. I switched from 1.5 years on an HD cam. I can not tell you exactly how much it has gone, but may like to include the mini-DV cassettes, which have the same cabinet. For capture, I had an old NV-GS27 in use. I thought so priced ¬ s.350. In addition to the standard equipment I have 4 large no-name battery, which with were in the basket.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"Bk.berlin" wrote:
... In the head hours, most sellers keep more covers ...
No you of the targeted cameras can show the head hours, so that one has to rely on estimates. Depending on the expertise and credibility is the seller is always a certain risk in such detail. The TRV900 was a milestone in camera history, as in this size class was really no second more. I have myself with such a part of a decade ago some rotated and only the best memories. Today, however, the requirements changed and I would consider myself a purchase but very, although the TRV900 can be had cheap. As mentioned earlier should be the main problem of finding a well-preserved copy. With a Panasonic GS400/500 but you are definitely synonymous well served.
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Bernard E." wrote:
"Bk.berlin" wrote:
... In the head hours, most sellers keep more covers ...
No you of the targeted cameras can show the head hours, so that one has to rely on estimates. Depending on the expertise and credibility is the seller is always a certain risk in such detail. The TRV900 was a milestone in camera history, as in this size class was really no second more. I have myself with such a part of a decade ago some rotated and only the best memories. Today, however, the requirements changed and I would consider myself a purchase but very, although the TRV900 can be had cheap. As mentioned earlier should be the main problem of finding a well-preserved copy. With a Panasonic GS400/500 but you are definitely synonymous well served.
Hello Bernd,
if you "changed requirements" mean with the HD standard that I can not really afford just it :-(
Or do you mean something else, what would you advise me on the limited budget then?
You and the other posters synonymous s.dieser place once a big thank you, I think it's really great how helpful (and fast!) You are. This forum is invaluable!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
"Bk.berlin" wrote:
... If you "changed requirements" mean with the HD standard that I can not even afford just now ... Or do you mean something else ...
At HD, I'm less (I turn now synonymous much for production companies, the only SD decrease), but primarily p.16: 9 This format has become so synonymous with SD and enforced even if the early-DV Sony's have a 16:9 function, it is still not brilliant. Whether you can live with is your decision, because, given the limited budget you have to do anyway compromise somewhere.
Antwort von Jitter:
The nv-gs 400 of 350E are key for when the part for a while with you work, a fair deal. A well ausgestattater DV camcorder! The can with a switch to HD later sell it very well - further height loss. Assuming that piece remains intact. Panasonic drives, I actually trust. If you want to contact directly to HD, is the recommendation clearly: Panasonic SD 707 for about 740 ¬. As it is, I believe, agree on this Forum: More is not for the Money.
Antwort von bk.berlin:
So now if None No border, I would have liked to go door to offer ... Apparently, the GS400 everything I need for now.
Door, can you please double check whether the good piece and a half years after sleeping in the wardrobe is still fully functional synonymous? ;-)
Can I write an email like synonymous s.bk.berlin ät yahoo dot de
Antwort von Klappe:
That's what I like. However only s.Wochenende. Seats currently on work around tomorrow and am pretty booked up as far as time.
You can always hang synonymous inform again whether she really has everything you are looking for.
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Flap" wrote:
That's what I like. However only s.Wochenende. Seats currently on work around tomorrow and am pretty booked up as far as time.
You can always hang synonymous inform again whether she really has everything you are looking for.
Okay, I do that, and you report you s.WE :-) Thanks!
Antwort von Klappe:
All right, I do.
Antwort von Commanderjanke:
I would advise you synonymous to a Panasonic NV-GS 400/500. Unfortunately had to come a little late, until recently a 2 year old GS 500 lying around here. Ne is really top camera and addressed as one of the few true native 16:9 receives. In the age LCDs synonymous not entirely ignore. XLR is not necessarily synonymous, there is a good mini-jack microphone (Rode, Sennheiser). Of course, should XLR ne nice thing but I find the entry you are probably times synonymous first concentrate on the picture, the sound is of course generally very important. But not everyone need ne radio link or a longer cable for Micro, then tuts synonymous ne mini-jack connection.
Greetings Micha
Just as info or a Wide Anglefür had the camera.
Antwort von bk.berlin:
"Commanderjanke" wrote:
I would advise you synonymous to a Panasonic NV-GS 400/500. Unfortunately had to come a little late, until recently a 2 year old GS 500 lying around here. Ne is really top camera and addressed as one of the few true native 16:9 receives. In the age LCDs synonymous not entirely ignore. XLR is not necessarily synonymous, there is a good mini-jack microphone (Rode, Sennheiser). Of course, should XLR ne nice thing but I find the entry you are probably times synonymous first concentrate on the picture, the sound is of course generally very important. But not everyone need ne radio link or a longer cable for Micro, then tuts synonymous ne mini-jack connection.
Greetings Micha
Just as info or a Wide Anglefür had the camera.
You're right, of course, the Picture is the first time the most important. I'm just out my wish list together :-)
Does the WW both the GS400 as synonymous to the GS500?
