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Frage von Robin:


Hello,
'm now really s.verzweifeln and hope you can help me.

My problem: I would like from a 3D program (Cinema 4D) rendered uncompressed AVIs in Premiere smooth export. Despite MotionBlur and the experiment, with half to render the animations Jerkiness with 25 FPS on a 60Hz monitor extreme. Have there been synonymous with the ReelSmart Motion Blur plugin for Premiere probiert. The result is sobering. In the case of camera panning (slow synonymous) jerky film without end. Each frame is visible to the eye. With a 75Hz monitor is displaying much better, but the film is for PCs with flat screens 60Hz thought. The problem I have only synonymous with 3D rendered animations. 25 FPS material from the camcorder is smooth. I wonder how 3D films (such as kings of the waves) can be produced smooth. Looking at a single frame with a quick swivel camera, it is the MotionBlur Effect hardly be seen.

As for me, any attempt failed (synonymous with individual rendered frames as Tif), 25 FPS clip smooth to export, I have tried with 30 FPS. The C4D rendered uncompressed AVI file runs perfectly smooth. Now I have about 250GB s.AVI clips and of course it must be cut and compress.

Earnings from the export attempts Premiere:
WMV provides the best image quality and the film is very small compressed. BUT: When playing the WMV file, there are approximately every 10 seconds Ruckler. The Ruckler is never s.der same place. Play is repeated when the deadlock s.einer elsewhere. With audio, there is the deadlock synonymous only in the video track. The sound falters not. In an NTSC MPEG with 30 or 29.97 Non-Dop-frame, there are fewer dropouts, but they are there. To see all sources of error (eg codec) to exclude, I have tried all the export options, this s.unterschiedlichen machines tested. At the hardware can, in my opinion are not synonymous (Q6600, 8800 GTX, 8GB ram, Vista 64bit, FFDShow codec) and an uncompressed clip (900 frames = 2GB) runs so smooth synonymous. The problem is synonymous with a very simple test movie with 30 FPS (spinning cube). With 25 FPS you can see in every single frame, but this one every 10 seconds as deadlock with 30 FPS does not exist.

Question:
How can I get a movie with 3D rendered 25, 29.97 or 30 FPS in Premiere smooth exported / compressed?

Robin

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Antwort von Jörg:

Hi,
Quote: How can I get a movie with 3D rendered 25, 29.97 or 30 FPS in Premiere smooth exported / compressed?

a simple fact. daily basis undertaking.
The animation sequence in frame with alpha channel in C4D export
The refresh rate depends on the purpose of animation.
Your PalProjekt eg as calculated c4d Project is imported into an APP, the PAL guidelines entspricht.Ob in i or p is exported depends on the display device.
Since jerky nix, gar nix.
This project is now considered to be exported wmv from APP. At the option of "merging" ensured. If all the project options have the correct values, gives a astrein result. Simply place the safe by shooting the project settings scrupulously examined.
Gruß Jörg

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Antwort von Robin:

Hello Jörg,
Thank you for your reply.

My C4D Render preferences look like this:
Resolution: 720 x 576
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1,422:1 (16:9)
Field Rend. Without
Image rate: 25 FPS or 30 FPS
Issue: Tiff frames or AVI uncompressed

Project settings in Premiere:
720 x 576, 1,422:1
lower half (with half rendered) or without the first half (for full individual images)
Timebase: 25 FPS or 30 FPS (at 30 FPS Animation)

If I export the "Merge" button, the flickering and jerky film at 25 FPS anyway, synonymous when I cut windows in successive frames (full frames) spread on fields. Have there been synonymous with 1280 x 720 1:1 without fields rendered with 50 fps in Premiere and exported. It jerky at a 60Hz monitor. Only 30 FPS animation with fields running correctly and smoothly without bucking flicker. But there are these "dropouts" all 10 to 30 seconds. As already mentioned, I have problems with normal video material from camcorders not. At 25 FPS animation synonymous bucking the uncompressed AVIS from C4D rendered with or without fields.

Here is the link to two test films (18.5 MB):

http://www.somnium-design.de/Test.zip

One is with 30 FPS and at least one hacker in the sequence and the other is with 25 FPS and jerky at 60Hz with a flat screen.

Greeting
Robin

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Antwort von sanvodan:

Quote: Have there been synonymous with 1280 x 720 1:1 without fields rendered with 50 fps in Premiere and exported. It jerky at a 60Hz monitor

You are perhaps one, then it shakes, make your monitor at 50Hz to ...

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Antwort von Eugen von ...:

@ Host

I may be a TFT only 60 Hz (or 59) and the animation is for a customer who has his TFT should not change, so the animation is fluid. A DVD with 25 FPS jerky so synonymous not at 60 Hz

Robin

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Antwort von Eugen von ...:

Hello,

@ Joerg
because you seem so synonymous with C4D work, I would have a few tips to make me very happy. I've tried everything again, what is out.

My new test:
- White bars on black background of the slowly moving right to left

data rendered in C4D:
1. Test: 25 FPS without motion blur, without Field Rend
2. Test: 25 FPS with MotionBlur without Field Rend
3. Test: 25 FPS with MotionBlur, odd lines first
4. Test: 25 FPS with MotionBlur, straight lines first
5. Test: 30 FPS without MotionBlur without Field Rend
6. Test: 60 FPS without MotionBlur without Field Rend

Result:
- Test 1 a.m. to 4 p.m. Jerkiness at 60 Hz without end (eye cancer), with no preference whether fields or MotionBlur or not
- Test 5 and 6 Jerkiness not falter but about every 10-20 seconds

I cut a lot of material from synonymous camcorder in Premiere and there had never been any Ruckler at 25 FPS. With 30 FPS C4D animations that do not falter every 10 seconds, I would have the best result for my purposes, but why the slow animations. Have tried different players, different calculator with different operating systems, FFDShow uninstall, CRT monitor times tried, but everywhere the same result.

Can someone help me?
Robin

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