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Frage von rtzbild:


Dear All,

s.meinem Akkugurt "Cine60 13.2 V / 7Ah" http://www.hetron.at/cine60/bat2-gurt.htm1= grün
2= (-)
3= rot
4= (-)
5= (-)

Ich will den Gurt jetzt nicht unnötig öffnen, daher Frage: Steht synonymous hier rot für + and grün für -?

Sind Akkugurte and Nierenakkus in der Kontaktierung "genormt", oder hat jeder Manufacturer sein eigenes System?

AFAIK has no Cine60 own head lights in the program (at least, is 5-pin XLR) is fairly rare, I have to convert me, then each lamp (Panther, Sachtler, etc.) or Cam again and again / to reconnect or make me an adapter?

Gruß Olli
* Buying * NEUTRIK NC5MX-Male


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Antwort von Markus:

Hello Olli,

the battery belt if you have not already opened, you could say a voltmeter synonymous, where there is the pros-and negative pole. When direct current is typically (+) red and (-) black. Perhaps the negative is in your case, Green? Or have many (-) have any significance?

I would probably me a little of 5-pin adapter. to 4-pol. XLR built on to the head light remains s.Batteries synonymous with 4-pin. XLR to operate. Would this Apekt play a role for you?

BTW: Does your lamp a voltage of 13.2 V or for any reason you have a battery made with this data?

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Antwort von rtzbild:

"Markus" wrote: Hello Olli,
the battery belt if you have not already opened, you could say a voltmeter synonymous, where there is the pros-and negative pole. When direct current is typically (+) red and (-) black. Perhaps the negative is in your case, Green? Or have many (-) have any significance?
[...]


Hi Mark,

the "-" should of "unoccupied" position.

I rausbekommen polarity now, but had at the time of posting no measuring instrument at hand.

"Markus" wrote:
[...]
I would probably me a little of 5-pin adapter. to 4-pol. XLR built on to the head light remains s.Batteries synonymous with 4-pin. XLR to operate. Would this Apekt play a role for you?
[...]


Will build my adapter, and while 5-pin Male on Sachtler / Panter-female, depending on what I buy.
If I build a head light itself, I can take a 5-synonymous Poligen.

"Markus" wrote:
[...]
BTW: Does your lamp a voltage of 13.2 V or for any reason you have a battery made with this data?


13.2 V, can take Duch synonymous with 12V is quite common in the automotive sector to work more easily with overvoltage, need not necessarily take 12V. Bulbs will burn with a slightly higher Farptemperatur (towards blue). Example "220V - 230V AC" o)

Gruß Olli

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Antwort von camworks:

"rtzbild" wrote:
13.2 V, can take Duch synonymous with 12V is quite common in the automotive sector to work more easily with overvoltage, need not necessarily take 12V. Bulbs will burn with a slightly higher Farptemperatur (towards blue). Example "220V - 230V AC" o)


caution! 5% voltage increase corresponds to 50% of the light bulb lifespan humiliation. depending on the mode of action / design, but this varies somewhat, but as a rule of thumb you can remember the good.

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Antwort von Markus:

The higher voltage should not be a problem ... see the message about the voltage of 12V Batteries of Sachtler:

"[...] One of the head lights should only operate with 12 volts, and possibly the Sachtler 12 V-belt packs that would have 12 volts with. (What is not true, it will be the beltpacks SACHTLER of 11 cells, so come s.Battery not like 12 volts, but 13.8 Volt stands out!?)
Why Sachtler regard to their Batteries incorrect information makes the tension that is inexplicable. [...] "


More info on Sachtler and Panther:
Video light Panther Romy 75 W

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Antwort von camworks:

"Markus" wrote: The higher voltage should not be a problem ... see the message about the voltage of 12V Batteries of Sachtler:

"[...] One of the head lights should only operate with 12 volts, and possibly the Sachtler 12 V-belt packs that would have 12 volts with. (What is not true, it will be the beltpacks SACHTLER of 11 cells, so come s.Battery not like 12 volts, but 13.8 Volt stands out!?)
Why Sachtler regard to their Batteries incorrect information makes the tension that is inexplicable. [...] "


More info on Sachtler and Panther:
Video light Panther Romy 75 W


and? da gehts a dimmer light. may be that through the dimmer even at full load will not exceed the 12v. vcm when the author has indeed not even measured it, what comes out after the dimmer but adds only the voltage data of cells.
I've also written that, depending on the type of light source which span more or less falls into the weight.

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Antwort von rtzbild:

"CAMWorks" wrote: "rtzbild" wrote:
13.2 V, can take Duch synonymous with 12V is quite common in the automotive sector to work more easily with overvoltage, need not necessarily take 12V. Bulbs will burn with a slightly higher Farptemperatur (towards blue). Example "220V - 230V AC" o)


caution! 5% voltage increase corresponds to 50% of the light bulb lifespan humiliation. depending on the mode of action / design, but this varies somewhat, but as a rule of thumb you can remember the good.


Hello CAMWorks,
Hi Mark,

I am again, after a long time there.

The batteries of the Cine-60 are now beginning to really come on in years (since 10.05.1995) and an exchange is necessary.

Now the question s.Euch:

Is it really useful, now on the 11th To forego the battery cell, and thus lower belt of 13.2 V to 12V, or perhaps incorporate a circuit (EMF), which transformed to 12.0 V 13.2 V?

When EMF 13.2 - 12.0, someone has a circuit for it?

As long as I still have my battery belt, I do not want to reconstruct my DIY solution: o)
http://home.arcor.de/rtz/kopflicht-diy_01.html

Liebe Grüße rundrum and always good light, "I drive my mom. Renew something in the fotocommunity rum, once again, the digi-SLR "something: o)

LG Olli

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Antwort von camworks:

probiers out, shut the battery lamp s.The s.and misunderstand the voltage of the batteries. They should not be much higher than 12v, it is ok. Otherwise, you should install a dimmer or a voltage limiter, or omit the last cell.

The voltage (source voltage), which one of the batteries is measured in the unloaded state, is not equal to the voltage, measures the one where hangs a consumer s.akku. value on the latter, it is not.

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Antwort von faridrich:

Hi Folks,

I give myself time now alls:

CAMWorks is right, as each battery has an internal resistance, the voltage goes down when you're hanging off a lamp.
If you find the internal resistance of the Batteries you can calculate it:

The tension which then comes to the lamp = open circuit voltage - the voltage that is destroyed by the internal resistance.

As a formula: U = U (open circuit voltage) - U (The s.Innenwiederstand) drops
In your case: U = 13.2 V-U internal resistance (Where U is internal resistance RXi)
Thus, U = 13.2 V-time internal resistance of the lamp current (amps)

I can tell you to go away fast with a 75 W lamp (= 6.25 amps) multiplied by 1.2 volts. In your place I would not worry me because

Regards

Fritzi

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Antwort von Markus:

"rtzbild" wrote: Is it really useful, now on the 11th To forego the battery cell, and thus lower belt of 13.2 V to 12V ...?
So far, So you have your 12V camera light with run 13.8 volts. Were there any problems, for example, that the burner is often blown? - If not, I would leave it just like that.

"rtzbild" wrote: When EMF 13.2 - 12.0, someone has a circuit for it?
There are diodes to reduce the voltage to a constant value. Whether these components are synonymous for such high currents as they occur permanently in a head light, I do not know.

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