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Frage von gilou:


How can I use in Premiere and Encore from a jerky 25p a 50i sequence do?

Certainly issues have been similar to DVD production, but to BluRay I have nothing found:
And although I would like to create a disc to use and the tryout of Premiere and Encore CS3.
I have a Einzeilbildsequenz that I as a full-TGA sequence from the compositing've spent (25 frames / s). Now I have a test done by me just at the Export to Encore (ie for the preparation of the mpeg2 files) HDTV 1080 25p in Premiere indicated hab.
Then I have a BluRay with Encore creates and transcodiert not because I think this process has been made in Premiere (why you should compress twice). Or have I got this wrong?
BluRay burned and with his players on nem-FullHD television play. Unfortunately I noticed that just run and scrolling fonts still have a fairly Shuttereffekt. So there seems no hardware from the player or Television to intervene and the intermediate images to be calculated. The solution is now probably my 25frames / s in full 50frames / s half or converted? But now I'm only motivated beginners in this area and wonder where and when exactly is one I tell? Do I have my first project in 1080i25 (50i) to invest? Why is there no corresponding target for FullHD but only the lower triggered HDV?
Do I even somewhere in Premiere NEN switch turn so he makes it half or is that when I export to Encore in the contract?

Questions about issues, but perhaps someone has ever done something and can give me as a little under hand. Bin schon echt s.verzweifeln whether the format and flood potential.

Premiere plunges übrigends after after each export from Encore (Premiere Pro has encounted s.error ... WinPathUtils.cpp-427). But at least the files do not seem to suffer.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Gilou" wrote: Unfortunately I noticed that just run and scrolling fonts still have a fairly Shuttereffekt. So there seems no hardware from the player or Television to intervene and the intermediate images to be calculated. The solution is now probably my 25frames / s in full 50frames / s half or converted?
Frame rate and mode of a graphics animation should always correspond to your main movie. Is the 50i, you create titles, etc. also in 50i, it is in 25p, you take full frames.

With fonts, there are fields with a considerable problem, which is that many of these contrasting horizontal lines. Even if the title does not roll, run or otherwise move, these lines by Halbbildzeilen cut and flicker. There is plenty to observe. Uskann select an appropriate font and the writings easily flatten. In any case, a motion blur to be used when what moves.

Now I would like to say that you - by using the motion blur when rendering of the animation - with 25p not have problems. Unfortunately this is not true. Here you need to find a compromise with the correct font size, the right speed and applied motion blur (you notice even without jerky's Motion Blur, Motion Blur in excess smears's). The main advantage of "p" in animation is that you have on your computer screen the effect of your settings can better assess, because it represents so well progressively. On a traditional tube TV, the fonts still something flicker.

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Antwort von gilou:

Thank you for the quick and detailed reply. I think so I will first try.
Then I am still the format to 720p 50p Premiere noticed. Does this mean that I am now so instead of 25 frames 50 frames spend? Perhaps the shutter is not quite so strongly if I compositing in the length of the film at 50 frames / s high pump and Frameblendig on. Or you can directly synonymous in Premiere do?

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Antwort von Axel:

"Gilou" wrote: Then I am still the format to 720p 50p Premiere noticed. Does this mean that I am now so instead of 25 frames 50 frames spend? Perhaps the shutter is not quite so strongly if I compositing in the length of the film at 50 frames / s high pump and Frameblendig on. Or you can directly synonymous in Premiere do? Know Premiere only fleetingly, but obviously> can <25p to 50p to spend as synonymous. First, but not as well as motion blur in the render settings, and secondly I do not know whether a BD player ever plays 50p. That all sounds a little botch. For motion blur into existing footage to smuggle it must be analyzed. In a neighboring thread is the

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Antwort von gilou:

Ok thanks for the help!
Synonymous already looks quite good with Motionblur. While still not ideal, but not for purposes of wirds.
What surprised me is that my FullHD Television is not of itself to the idea of a 25p signal corresponding intermediate images are calculated. That is indeed one of the new features of modern devices such so just run scripts or not panning camera shutter: - /

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Antwort von Axel:

"Gilou" wrote: What surprised me is that my FullHD Television is not of itself to the idea of a 25p signal corresponding intermediate images are calculated. That is indeed one of the new features of modern devices such so just run scripts or not panning camera shutter: - /
Between pictures? The TV is full. For 50i makes it 50p. 25p leaves as they are. Klär me at times, I've read, this BD player can not do 25p, only 24p. If this is the case, it would explain lollop (synonymous not then of course 50i or 50p).

Just to clarify: What s.25p on your computer screen is not jerky, jerky is not synonymous to your FullHD - provided that the right signal to ....

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Antwort von gilou:

http://www.toshiba.de/consumer/content/defaultid1_3_id2_109.aspx

That I think I had misunderstood. Apparently there is only the 24p signal to the 100Hz hochgepusht.

BD player should be synonymous 25p output, since it is only recently, the Television 24p support. I think the player communicates with the television and when he sees that the 24p mastered it sends the data as being 24p. When his older LCD will probably be in the player, the internal signals somehow transformed. But everything is speculation.
My Playstation 3 has the advantage always over the Internet with the latest firmware update to be provided. Now therefore, the almost all HD-moderate to process what it is. Some older BD players do as well problems. Especially when it comes to producing their own BDs should be very carefully about what the player wants to play later because there are many different ways to create a disc.
Here's an informative link about this:

http://www.ecoustics.com/pcw/howto/147429

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Antwort von Axel:

Hmm, thanks. If one of us now is sure to have everything geschnallt?

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Antwort von gilou:

Also, I am not :-)

But here an answer from another forum about my first question:

>> then you have already premiere with reasonable 50i feed. ie from the compositing rausrendern fields. from 25 frames Vollbild material may of course not 50 frames, but pushed rules and then see pictures from the first. <<

In his opinion, is perhaps even without MotionBlur .... I'm confused. Viellciht should I do again a Picture and make Tontechnikerausbildung :-)

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