Infoseite // 550d-export footage to h264 - somehow, overcast



Frage von Dakar128:


Hello, \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e I have a video with footage of a 550d by Premiere 5 exports to h264: \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Source material: h264, 1080p, 25fps \u003cbr /\u003e Objective: h264 (, mp4), 1080p, 25fps, target bit: 15Mbit, Maxbit: 15Mbit, VBR1-pass \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e The video will be for Vimeo HD. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e If I cut the movie in Premiere, the colors richer and somehow after the export is now the image looks somewhat cloudy. I realize that it is the export of quality loss, but maybe there is a possibility to keep these losses small? \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e I had played around the target times synonymous with 30 Mb, but can find noBesserung. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Maybe I can help someone :) yes \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Regards, \u003cbr /\u003e Dakar128

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

This has nothing to do with the bit rate and the general quality of the video, but with the color space. \u003cbr /\u003e Different players give different results. \u003cbr /\u003e It is quite possible that the video on Vimeo to display properly. Maybe try it.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Well that is the color space for video is actually Still Not like at almost the same. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e ........... \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e @ TO \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e How do you cut your material in Premiere / edit? \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e What have applied for NEN profile (; FOR THE OPERATIONS Project Settings) \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Best regards \u003cbr /\u003e B. DeKid

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

@ B. DeKid \u003cbr /\u003e It definitely has nothing to do with the Project Settings. \u003cbr /\u003e There are tons of threads on this issue and affects all NLEs (; not only premiere). \u003cbr /\u003e Verteinfacht said it is about material that comes from a color space with 16-235 specification on a device to reproduce, what constitutes a color space with 0-255 specification (; computer monitor). The players behave very differently because different materials. Unfortunately Sun \u003cbr /\u003e What helps: other players, other renderers (; example, the VLC player, Media Player at HC can explicitly choose the color space) or try other encoders. Andrerer encoder for Premiere is not only synonymous but would again lead to a result which never looks the same in all players (; Does everything

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

The loss of the highlights can be compensated in the Y-curve of EDIUS as the one in the "linear" switch and sets the upper point of the oblique line at 233.255. Simple time tested ...

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Antwort von motiongroup:

http://www.slashcam.de/info/Wie-Loesen-wir-das-Quicktime-Gamma shift problem - 481507.html \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e that's the problem

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Antwort von random:

I have the same problem. 5D and 550D with've twisted and cut with premiere cs4 on windows. \u003cbr /\u003e I, unfortunately, little foreboding of farbraeumen, codecs & co have a.verzweifeln I am. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e With the same clip is shown on vlc to wmp with weak and much too colorful. a mottled black and worth noschoene color reproduction, no preference, whether with VLC, QT or WMP playing. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e there noakzeptable export spoon for someone who is not privy to the deep of the subject,? \u003cbr /\u003e difficult as this may not be true. \u003cbr /\u003e I have ideas, or just wrong?

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

Give it a whirl with the Media Player Classic Home Cinema, as you may need to synonymous change the color space.

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Antwort von Ferdinand Paul:

I have the same problem, but with finalcut. I encode the material in order to better appleproress cut could, then it looks schonmal from another, not so tired. Then, when I imported it into finalcut looks like it still, if I then re-export into a H264, it looks again like the original. This is partly synonymous a.Fully engage different codecs. The whole thing is rather confusing and not easy. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Which codec do you cut? \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e lg, ferdy \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e checked out my films: \u003cbr /\u003e http://youtu.be/9neJ09SQrkE \u003cbr /\u003e http://vimeo.com/20375046

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gamma Shift

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

You can call the gamma shift (; of me out, I thought so synonymous times), but actually, the color space with the lack of information or their misinterpretation by the various players to do. \u003cbr /\u003e Looks uahieran you: \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cdiv class=\

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Antwort von random:

First of anke fue your answers. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e To codec: I work with AVCHD material and the native import and export directly just as H.264 (MP4) - \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e To Player: If somehow synonymous nothing, if I add a note every need, with which players he will not hesitate to play the file. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e To gamma shift: Runs just over the normal effects library or do I need something special? \u003cbr /\u003e Is there a certain level, the is generally recommended, or try, I just made?

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Dakar128 \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e If your NLE a waveform monitor? \u003cbr /\u003e Then look on it yet because once an image or add time one that you can analyze it this short. \u003cbr /\u003e It'll be like Kid and Tuesday say that you are working outside of the correct color space. \u003cbr /\u003e Corrected and the matter briefly in (; synonymous to all players) will do. \u003cbr /\u003e With the used codec has nothing to do.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

He comes of H.264 and H.264 goes \u003cbr /\u003e Please be as where to change something. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Unless you kurbelst there around in it. \u003cbr /\u003e Also change a codec not a.angelegten color space, as long as the correct color space is used. \u003cbr /\u003e That's just the advantage of standardized norms. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cdiv class=\

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

Each monitor can display gamma 2.2 and thus is 709 capable. \u003cbr /\u003e Also, any player representing 709 (Because each 8-bit display monitor inside of 1-255 13-253 is synonymous), the only exception was Quicktime, because they have used the old print gamma. \u003cbr /\u003e But this is now corrected. \u003cbr /\u003e If you have some obscure hardware entanglements, or carrying out at least as obscure format conversions, then move that does not ensure that standards do not work or do manufacturers (except Apple) not (know) how to implement standards in player. \u003cbr /\u003e It is simply not true.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

I suspected that something is. \u003cbr /\u003e Just send a video, then waer this a time for all cleared up.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Anyone can read on Wikipedia. \u003cbr /\u003e And 99.9% of the users can a.Fully engage its own products, synonymous reproduce at home.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

An example would be a PRACTICAL but very helpful. \u003cbr /\u003e Even realize that there are constantly these questions.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Yes, I realize, but you have to wonder about it, of course not, then if any cross-and-cross of changes are proposed or are converts to h.264 Intermediates, without knowing the difference in the Farbraeumen and "for all cases" then sometimes takes RGB. \u003cbr /\u003e Or if you (very popular with the photo taking pictures) and then inviting you any gamma curves do not then the 7 times IRE correction (USA) dissolves decent. \u003cbr /\u003e Or "Great White" for 'a great job holds and then complain that it looks different on Youtube ... or xvYCC is not corrected ... \u003cbr /\u003e There are many reasons that people ask here is what's for. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Operator error is still the most common source of error

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

Here is a screenshot of understanding on unmachined, video:

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Antwort von WoWu:

Should I seek your error? \u003cbr /\u003e You will see the error of your hardware or your editing even have to look yourself .... at the Apple Macke has aufhast than 20 years, until it was removed.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

As for myself here to be error? \u003cbr /\u003e This is an ORIGINAL of the cam.

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Antwort von WoWu:

If the CAM also shoots about 709, it's broken. (But they must not exceed 2%). \u003cbr /\u003e Hang on a waveform monitor to it and you see the quirk.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

Please, now Beac

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Antwort von WoWu:

Try going through your processing (hardware / software) of any part as you bend the gamma. Do you have somewhere to run QuickTime?

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

QuickTime do not think I (; at least shows me the QTPlayer that he can not find the file open),. \u003cbr /\u003e I'm pretty sure that the players use different renderers. For example, VLC I could change that, but then become new problems (; and if I want to pass on the video, I'm not just saying, please take the and the player, but acts as the synonymous or the renderer).

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Antwort von WoWu:

Only then is not a.Codec. \u003cbr /\u003e So yes it was. \u003cbr /\u003e Pack your time on it defined gray scale in which the values \u200b\u200b(levels) are shown in 709 and look at the result in the waveform monitor. \u003cbr /\u003e Emergency, if you can not measure A.The monitor port, take the values \u200b\u200bfrom the screen. \u003cbr /\u003e The offset would have to be synonymous can see there. \u003cbr /\u003e Because you can then see whether the values \u200b\u200bare linearly moved or if an incorrect gamma curve is applied. \u003cbr /\u003e Assume that each player the latest versions are used, I'll go try. \u003cbr /\u003e First of times I would find who is wrong and then, why. \u003cbr /\u003e Your camera can output color bars? \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e @ Dakar128 \u003cbr /\u003e Sorry that we are here briefly OT times.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

I've already done tons of these tests, always with Color Bars. The error can even leave / minimize it, but NEVER for any player. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e When I said that is a.Codec, I did not mean that the codec that spanking, but that the player INTERPRET something wrong, so as not to use the space for the optimum color rendering. \u003cbr /\u003e Only once in memory, DNxHD does not just MP4.

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Antwort von WoWu:

The codec does absolutely nothing in the color space. \u003cbr /\u003e Because the uebertraegt only the assigned values \u200b\u200band which is now about whether I carry in MPEG2 or MPEG4 jacket and trousers. \u003cbr /\u003e And what DNxHD is concerned, you have to see synonymous even know if this is done in RGB space or in the 709 because the signal must somehow come of the camera so synonymous in the intermediates. \u003cbr /\u003e And if any one player dissolves the gamma is not correct, he belongs on the garbage. \u003cbr /\u003e So how then QuickTime synonymous.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

OK, if properly implemented, I would have perhaps intended to restrict. \u003cbr /\u003e But it does nothing, change into something a.Codec if any freeware is unable to display an image. \u003cbr /\u003e So what belongs will be indicated in the garbage. The experience we have to do. \u003cbr /\u003e Only then should you suggest that synonymous here, instead of saying "what Aender a.Codec". \u003cbr /\u003e One may as "Ross" and "tab" not to be confused.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

I have not said what Aender a.Codec, but what Aender a.Player.

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Antwort von monophonic:

This tiresome topic gamma shift with AVCHD H.264 MOV files I can enrich the extent that the following is clear that far. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e First MOV source file with Magix PROX4 as MPG-2 export (; noKorr) = \u003cspan style=\

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

Have you ever tested as imported the files back?

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Antwort von random:

How and where can I get the DNxHD codec and exports and what it cost me the fun?

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

The codec package is free and can be found on here somewhere synonymous Slashcam. Otherwise beiAviddirekt.

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Antwort von monophonic:

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

I had next described above to test once the Media Player Classic HC.

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Antwort von monophonic:

Hello tuesday, \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e work itself is the wenns special in my case, only one half Loesung.Ich could play it on my laptop, exclusively for display. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e When I write on the DVD, please only play with other players XY misrepresentation, I've outed myself as unfit video supplier for my clients. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e The interest in the reality noSau what I have for gamma shift problems. The only question, why can not you what your colleagues. Should I say yes synonymous working on MAC and the right software? Then say: YES!! \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e What they probably do not have legal synonymous. \u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e Greeting \u003cbr /\u003e monophonic

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Antwort von WoWu:

That's what I say .... this is now daily bread ..... You have to build up your workflow so that you have a clean format to surrender.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

@ Monophonic \u003cbr /\u003e You should try MPC HC still time. \u003cbr /\u003e As I wrote above, synonymous ever, there are mp4 noMoeglichkeit that the videos work with all players. This affects us all. If it is mpeg2 on my level of learning just because you can not do anything. So if someone watch a DVD with VLC necessarily wants, too bad. Even in normal media player, it should work better (Edit: apparently not, but not the latest). \u003cbr /\u003e I've found for me personally a workflow that is where MP4 (h264) played in VLC properly. This means synonymous but that the files with other players look different.

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Antwort von WoWu:

That's pretty much no preference as long as your source material is in order. \u003cbr /\u003e If the customer is watching on TV, is the completely gruenstichtig, then it is indistinguishable from its other content, because everything is gruenstichig. \u003cbr /\u003e But if the delivered material contains an error, then he's going to notice, as the mix of different materials intact.

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

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Antwort von WoWu:

But he has a problem, the other a million times not to have. \u003cbr /\u003e Where else should I develop?

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Antwort von dienstag_01:

ALL have this problem on a PC. \u003cbr /\u003e Many just do not notice it.

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Antwort von Bruno Peter:

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