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Frage von Enigma1:


Hello!
I have the DV capture an asynchronous sound when I select "AVI DV2" Select. Am I "DV1" is the sound synchronously, but this file seems problematic insofar as they do not of all the players can be played, as VLC does not packing it. A DV2 Avi plays but from the VLC.
I want to convert the file later to a DVD and now that I remember Ahbe with the Choice "DV1" any later problems get, DV1 sounds like more of ..... After all, is there but the sound synchronously.
I read eim DV2 is connected to the sound recording, or otherwise?

Dates:
Calculator AMD 64 3200 with 1GB of RAM
s.laufen no virus, no unnecessary Programs, Calculator is used only to capture.
Camera Of SonyDCR-HC85E
Asynchrony with various tools capture the same as the AVI synonymous running on other computers asynchronously, as I said everything ok as DV1

Should I just DV1 or use carries the disadvantages in terms?

Thank you

Bernd

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Antwort von Stefan:

Try with your DVD tools out if you can make a DVD from AVI Type DV1. If it is you are all worries go.

Technically, AVI Type DV1 is roughly composed of a sequence of DV-compressed still images (frames) with integrated sound, as of the camera are sent via Firewire.

When DV2 AVI sound from the DV was herauskopiert-frames and also again stored in the AVI file.

I can imagine few things that can reinpfriemeln asynchronicities.

One thing that might exist on the tape sections with different Audiosamplingraten (32 KHz and 48KHz).

AVI files are s.sich designed for an audio sampling rate and a change in the middle of it is not envisaged.

For AVI Type DV1, a change may represent the audio sampling rate anything because the DV codec required to detach the video frame and the Audioschnippsels for this picture works differently than a normal AVI based player.

If this is so, would have a DV capture program with scene detection enabled using the DV time codes (eg WinDV bring Sclive) better results synonymous with AVI DV2. For a switch to activate the audio sampling rate, one must usually stop a recording and then generates a new scene in Weiterfilmen beginning.

Good luck
The thick Stefan

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Antwort von Enigma1:

Hi Stefan and thanks for your quick response.
At last I now know the time difference between DV1 and 2

The source material is a 60min long song recording s.einem I Sonyaufgenommen without interruption in one with the. I s.The Sony (it has analog inputs) connected to a VCR and try to end a long wedding video capture to DVD.
As I said, in this situation, I first made out of 1 hours VHS with the CAM one hours DV video on the tape of the CAM. Looked at the CAM is synonymous the whole film ok and synchronously. Only with the dub on PC created with Choice DV2 this stupid asynchrony.

I have now tried s.einem second calculator, but with the same PCI firewire card, which I installs it in the other calculator. Here, too, asynchronously. Can s.der map is based on? It has a VIA VT6306 chipset.
PS
Even when capturing with such proven tools such as WinDV is the sound of DV2 asynchronously.

Or is it in my Sony "secret" settings so that it works with DV2? I'll gucke again through the entire options in the action.
Edit: There is "Sound Mode 16bit or 12bit. It currently stands at 16 bits. One of the reasons would be if ....

Edit again: (I edit my posts so happy afterwards ...) I am reading this is in many cams 32khz and 12bit = 16bit = 48Khz. Then would be my attitude in the past been 16Bit probably even more the right ... heul * *

Regards

Bernd

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Antwort von Stefan:

Have you been with the DVD Tools progressed and tried to make a DVD with AVI Type DV1 to. If that succeeds, the asynchrony in AVI DV2 an unsightly but does not hinder your Project. The cause can be later engaged.

Good luck
The thick Stefan

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Antwort von CODE46:

@ Enigma1

why do not you take this thread next?

http://forum.slashcam.de/of-dv-cam-auf-rechner-das-avi-hat-asynchronen-ton--vt41133.html?highlight =

That's the same topic

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Antwort von Enigma1:

@ Fat Stefan
I have now changed the created as DV1, synchronous AVI with Ulead VideoStudio 8 into a DVD.
Unfortunately, this now creates a new asynchronous, from the previously synchonen DV1 AVI is now an asynchronous sound DVD.
The one is when you convert AVI Tonsynchrones asynchronously, I had not noticed before the use of DV1.

Today I've got a new FireWire card. I would later times with auspobieren all again with the new setting and reporting DV2. If all else fails, I need to capture in individual files are no longer than about 10 - 15min. Then, the asynchrony is not so disturbing. But a little "fight" I am still against the evil :-)

@ Host
The other thread has been zeredet to put it times like this. It seemed to me better to open a new.

Regards

Bernd

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Antwort von Archimedes:

Surely you have already tested several capture Programs. My recommendation in this regard is almost always ScenalyzerLive. If you clear trouble capturing with Type-2 files you have, why do not you stay with Type 1? Video editing programs should thus come quite clear. Output (without loss) you do so you can still than type 2 That reminds me a straight, there's a free synonymous freeware tool - "Ulead DV Converter - to convert videos of Type 1 to Type 2 video. Perhaps you can help the next synonymous.

http://www.ulead.de/download/dvconverter/download.htm

Since I just read that there is probably nothing to do with the type. What program you have the captured? I would try s.deiner body really times like ScenalyzerLive behaves there. ;-)

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Antwort von Enigma1:

Hello Archimedes
Thanks for your help. I've been with Ulead VideoStudio 8, with Ulead VideoStudio 10, captured with Pinnacle 10.6, with the Windows Movie Maker and with WinDV. When set, the DV2 revealed always a Unsynchronität.

DV1 I can not take advantage of my last test synonymous, because then suddenly created out of the unsynchronized Tonsynchonen AVI DVD is created (currently only tested with Ulead VideoStudio 8) The DV1 so I harvest a new TonProblem if converted to DVD.

The Ulead conversion tool, I'll try synonymous times. Good idea.
I would prefer ScenalyzerLive synonymous try and if I am now with de new FireWire card still have the problem-which I am almost afraid :-(

Regards

Bernd

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Antwort von Archimedes:

Have I understood correctly, you have a clip recorded with the analog camcorder? And these are you going to bring to the PC? If so, does the capturing with a normal (digital) recording?

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Antwort von Stefan:

I can not imagine that it has something to do with the Firewire card to. Because the card is only responsible for transferring the data of A to B.

Beyond Software and sits with AVI zuppelt DV2 this software out the sound from the DV frames and writes it again purely in the AVI file. Exaktemente this software is a part of DirectX.

DirectX itself is modular. The developers wanted a progressive program, but an extensible multimedia system in which future extensions and improvements can hook up easily.

The individual modules are called synonymous filter. Each filter has its special task, such as one for the reading of Camera, for a reading of disk storage and one for the content of a sound as well as for Rauszuppeln from one to reinschreiben to the AVI file.

Long story short - when building this particular filter dung, which affects any dependent video applications.

And that's as good as all the editing programs because almost all programmers use the DirectX interface to multimedia in their programs. The exceptions are probably VirtualDub and Avisynth, but to bring you here for other reasons, not next.

A deeper, but time-consuming entry into the DirectX / filter-matter is with a development tool of Micro $ oft possible. The tool is called Graphedit, comes from the development package of DirectX and buzzing around the net freely. It is synonymous to tutorials.

But back to the core questions:

If you put for the moment an older version than DirectX 9.0c?

Could it be that you have messed up eg Rummachen with a codec pack things in DirectX?

If both questions can not be answered with No, I would make a reinstallation of DirectX 9.0c.

But to the usual phrase: No error!

Especially because DirectX updates can not be uninstalled easily. If you want to make sure that coming back to the present situation, then before making a backup of your Windows installation.

Good luck
The thick Stefan

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Antwort von Enigma1:

Puuuuhh .... yes, the hard Tobak.
So to be honest, I do not know what the two hosts, with which I tested it, is for a version of DirectX on it. Whether I have messed up the installation of the irgeneiner other software I can not say synonymous.
That's so hard because you think you overplayed a bit, and 1:1 while the whole is completely rewritten, and some Microsoft software was being played with pure ....

The new firewire card brought, as expected (feared), no improvement.

Currently, the second straight Calculator captured on Szenalyzer (this tool I had not yet tested) the whole again. If DirectX is the s.diesem will probably not be synonymous, although I have a little hope, because I Scenalyzer one (was active by default) option to keep sound synchronously "... * hoff *

@ Archimedes
I always thought that the movie I still be able to record digitally? So the DV format, no preference about whether I as the camera with films or if I plug in a VCR as the input source? Could be the DV Cam?
A 60min film of "hand rotated" I do not currently own, so one thing, I first create. But I think that should be there basically no difference. The video is the way s.der CAM considered totally iO unsynchronized until after the capture.

PS
In the Capture Tools gibts indeed the choice of a driver as Microsoft DV or something like that. Gibts something to improve it? Another or something?

Thank you

Bernd

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Antwort von Stefan:

The sounds Scenalyzer option but to class. Since I am optimistic.

Setting a different Drivers rather than Microsoft DV brings nothing. For your DV connection you have probably no other drivers. There are "exotic-DV-cards" that are not $ with the Micro-drivers often work but bring their own drivers. But this is actually debris from the DV-Stone Age. And the drivers are not synonymous, it indeed, it may be, in my thesis, the filter sitting behind it.

Good luck
The thick Stefan

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Antwort von Archimedes:

@ Enigma1:
In ScenalyzerLive must be set not much. In addition to the capture directory need to do is to select the file type (type 1 or 2) and it's good. All other settings fit into the rule.

If you say on the camcorder is the video synchronously, then it should fit already. At first I thought not, because that analogy already in the record (of, according to digital) what went wrong.

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Antwort von Enigma1:

It's done.
I've barely even thought off, but after the capture with Scenalyzer is the sound 100% synchronously remained. FINALLY ...
I wonder though, what the tool does just now, unlike all the other tools that I previously tried, but at least funzt it now.

I am most grateful to all who guided me with their tips to solve my problem.

Thank you

Bernd

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Antwort von Gast 0815:

Own the Windows DirectShow Avispliter.s.hat sometimes problems with the proper proportion of clay. Whether it's ultimately lies, but I can not say synonymous. Tentatively yes you can install much better views of Gabest splitter: http://ffdshow.faireal.net/mirror/MediaPlayerClassic/externalfilters/unicode/AviSplitter.7z

This has helped with my system for some problem files anyway.

Greetings from Marburg

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Antwort von Archimedes:

@ Enigma1:
Well, that's what. I had trouble capturing, for example, views with dropped frames. I have never received one hundred percent under control. Only with respect ScenalyzerLive I had no more problems.

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