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Frage von matze22:


Hi,

I have a question about half frames (interlaced) ...

As I understand the flat screens can indeed represent only frames and noHalbbilder!

I have now made a test:
I have a clip once created as a normal PAL-DVD (720x576px interlace) and once as a 720x576px Progressive) ...

Now, the interlace video is oddly clean / smoothly and the progressive increase jerky video / ....

I do not understand it, a flat but can not be an interlace ....

But why is the clean-interlace the video and jerky with the frames?

Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

One reason (there certainly are other, Encodingfehler example) could be that the progressive clip from the TV anyway, "deinterlaced" is.
But since then obs jerky, noah planning.

Space


Antwort von Axel:

The deinterlacer modern flats are often very good. If you have "i" quick & dirty deinterlaced material, you have half the image height (Resolutionverringert) and every other phase discarded (no longer proportional to motion blur, "gaps"). Best "i" to keep when you have so recorded.

Space


Antwort von tommyb:

Your television has a built-in deinterlacer.

He takes the interlaced image - these are 50 fields - and refurbishes them using built-in deinterlacer to 50 frames.

Space


Antwort von prime:

"Matze22" wrote: But why is the clean-interlace the video and jerky with the frames?
Because it is interpreted correctly and activated in the case, according to a deinterlacer is (which accounts for 50 fields 50 frames). This interpolation is necessary if * * signaled that it not be either interlaced (Image jerky).

Space


Antwort von Jott:

"Matze22" wrote:
But why is the clean-interlace the video and jerky with the frames?


Normal. 50i is liquid, not 25p - only half the motion resolution. Of course, any television deal with flat fields, otherwise we might not even watch TV.

Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

So normal would be as follows:
1. The video is deinterlaced in the program, result: progressive video.
2. The video is only in the TV deinterlaced, result: progressive video.

Both should look the same.

Note: Of course there are a minimal progressive video without jerking.
Some like it but so much that they called "film look" are desirable. So do not bother really.
Ifs really bother, what is wrong.

Space


Antwort von tommyb:

"Dienstag_01" wrote: So normal would be as follows:
1. The video is deinterlaced in the program, result: progressive video.
2. The video is only in the TV deinterlaced, result: progressive video.

Both should look the same.

Except that at point

1. video 25 frames, the motion resolution
2. The video has 50 frames Movement Resolution

which in turn results in 1 and 2 just do not look the same.

Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

"Tommyb" wrote: Except that at point

1. video 25 frames, the motion resolution
2. The video has 50 frames Movement Resolution

which in turn results in 1 and 2 just do not look the same.


That is to say, this adds the "dumb" deinterlacer in the program 25 frames, the "smart" on TV but 50 frames.
I'd put it quite simply, that can not be right.

Space



Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

small addition:
On my computer monitor I use for interlaced material Softwaredeinterlacer (for example in VLC Player). There you can choose the algorithm itself. As will be generated definitely noZusatzbilder. But nothing jerky as synonymous.

Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

another addition:
And with progressive material (25p) of course not synonymous.

Space


Antwort von tommyb:

"Dienstag_01" wrote: That is to say, this adds the "dumb" deinterlacer in the program 25 frames, the "smart" on TV but 50 frames.
I'd put it quite simply, that can not be right.

How do you get the smart deinterlacer of 50p on a standard DVD compliant?

We're talking still of a DVD> LCD Television Setup.

Space


Antwort von dienstag_01:

Hello tommyb,

your last post, I understand now, not quite.

Deinterlacing is needed but only for 50i material (we're talking about Europe).
It will always be - generated from two images one frame, so created 25 frames - with different methods.
This is the principle.

Space





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