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Frage von strohy:


in what format it s.besten archived ready sliced HD material?
As H.264 in MP4 format
as H.264 in Quicktime format
or
as WMV-HD?

I want to stop the whole thing later, when the burners are affordable, with the least possible loss can burn ...

and what bitrate would you take?
(Premiere CS3 preset for H.264 1080p is 32Mbit)

Usual HD Trailer come but already with 10 Mbit from (and are mostly Quicktime)

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Maybe this helps you a little?

http://videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=4826

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Antwort von Svoboda:

Quote: n what format it is archived s.besten ready HD-cut material

Blu-ray compatible!

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Antwort von Pianist:

"strohy" wrote: in what format it s.besten archived ready sliced HD material?
Archived in their original format. And if you have a Bluray disc burn want then is to generate an MPEG-2-File with specific properties required.

Matthias

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Antwort von Mylenium:

"strohy" wrote: in what format it s.besten archived ready sliced HD material?
As H.264 in MP4 format
as H.264 in Quicktime format
or
as WMV-HD?


Not at all. Archived we uncompressed. * lol * If you have your data ready to burn "between the store like, you have no other choice than native H.264, MPEG-II or VC-1. Everything else is nonsense. Neither Quicktime nor Windows Media are normal in BD or HD-DVD standard foreseen.

"strohy" wrote:
and what bitrate would you take?
(Premiere CS3 preset for H.264 1080p is 32Mbit)

Usual HD Trailer come but already with 10 Mbit from (and are mostly Quicktime)


Öhm, I think this would confuse you just what. What's Offline Delivery on optical media with Web to do? Look at times one of these HD clips in the breast-feeding image. The quality differences are evident. Also: If you do not plan to be 20 hours of HD material on disc Eien to what dan Stinginess countries in the data rates? Is just as unproductive as DVDs to cramp with 3 Mbit / sec to burn and afterwards on the Qulaität to complain. Otherwise, I can always return to the standard bring acquittal: Purchase you just noch'n harddrive.

Mylenium

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"Mylenium" wrote:
Not at all. Archived we uncompressed. * lol * If you have your data ready to burn "between the store like, you have no other choice than native H.264, MPEG-II or VC-1.


Do you have any idea how big uncompressed HD material? None of your proposed format is uncompressed actually - as an aside.

I would now repeal the entire Project, if necessary, on removable disk. If this is too big, I would have the material as HDV2 cancel.

Or one is in the mean time a AVCHD DVD forth - is synonymous with CS3, if the issue with H.264 is an iso, and then to DVD or DVD DL burning. Some Blu Ray players can play perfectly. But you should always watch something, so we know whether the thing which has become - and Blu Ray synonymous structures can play from your PC (Nero 7.9 or 8 + to purchase Blu Ray Plugin, then Nero Showtime plays the thing pretty good from, or Power DVD Ultra, which has, however, so his music).

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Antwort von Mylenium:

"wolfgang" wrote: Do you have any idea how big uncompressed HD material?

Na klar das I know I've got it wrong formulated. Correctly you should write in the native editing format.

"wolfgang" wrote: None of your proposed format is uncompressed actually - as an aside.

Have I not synonymous claims. I said yes of "ready to burn."

Mylenium

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Na synonymous finished burning is not particularly easy - there is the matter today, tools, the input is not autonomous of Authroringtools accepted. Nor is the matter simply too fresh and too few voted.

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Antwort von Mylenium:

"wolfgang" wrote: Na synonymous finished burning is not particularly easy - there is the matter today, tools, the input is not autonomous of Authroringtools accepted. Nor is the matter simply too fresh and too few voted.

Depends on what you use for tools. Of course you have to be synonymous s.die Spec hold. Certain encodings, frame rates and data rates are now synonymous times in beautiful HD age not provided ...

Mylenium

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Antwort von wolfgang:

And as you now check whether the output of tool A according to the spec, if you have until tomorrow to apply Tool B bringest? And if so then all the films are prepared, and it is not, what do you do then? Whining?

Nee, I just watch in this area has some minor incompatibilities - and in practice, and synonymous with well-known tools of reputable sellers. Who here is not on the patency of its processing respects, there may be evil on the nose fall.

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Antwort von Mylenium:

"wolfgang" wrote: And as you now check whether the output of tool A according to the spec, if you have until tomorrow to apply Tool B bringest? And if so then all the films are prepared, and it is not, what do you do then? Whining?

There are profiling tools and thus can, at least in strictly formal terms, synonymous today to determine whether streams are standard. Everything since anicht reinfällt should just not be synonymous swallowed. But, and here, I think, lies the real problem, some programs just swallow any rubbish and the user weighs in false security and then is disappointed when programs such as Scenarist, which is very strictly following the standards work, refuse, garbage same to absorb.

Synonymous times I would say that the wild "one-touch-Exporting" is still too widespread and people are too little with the theoretical basics of the deal size. At least I can only explain so that even today people still completely uncovered DVDs with data rates produce and then wonder if it's only auf'm computer running ... Throw this then the variety of HD options, and we can einbuddeln. * g *

Otherwise, you'll see that, I think, much too dark. The current half-implementations of the HD format in various authoring and burning program is ultimately nothing else, such as the chaos at the beginning of the DVD era. That will have even better .... , O)

Mylenium

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Do have a link to such a profiling tool for AVCHD? It is good wenns sowas there - but the standard equipment for users is probably not.

And so it goes in the topic about how to * today * to save material, in order to secure next morning to be able to process. Whether I want to see black, may well be. But: what is the optimistiche a user perspective, if he still does not know whether the material of my releases tomorrow now can handle? The people can not hold the same check.

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Antwort von Mylenium:

"wolfgang" wrote: Do have a link to such a profiling tool for AVCHD? It is good wenns sowas there - but the standard equipment for users is probably not.

For AVCHD I do not know, this is the format to new. Since Harris and Panasonic is now synonymous support, there will be a lot of light already given somewhere.

"wolfgang" wrote:
And so it goes in the topic about how to * today * to save material, in order to secure next morning to be able to process. Whether I want to see black, may well be. But: what is the optimistiche a user perspective, if he still does not know whether the material of my releases tomorrow now can handle? The people can not hold the same check.


Since you are not wrong, but we are talking about two different things - just as it is "right" does so in accordance with the standards, or how to get with "somehow it works anyway" durchwurschtelt as currently Adobe, Apple, Nero and most other synonymous just do. , O). Times I'm going assume that we in the future more of the "proper" look and then it should be possible to cross-program to establish workflows without having to make tired. Until then, a well or ill nothing left within a product family to move in order to avoid problems.

Mylenium

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Antwort von fleischverpackung:

hmm,
for an assurance of a production with HDV m2t is s.ende
the product family-independent HVD m2t format.
gruß cj

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Antwort von wolfgang:

"Mylenium" wrote:
For AVCHD I do not know, this is the format to new. Since Harris and Panasonic is now synonymous support, there will be a lot of light already given somewhere.


Good, then how will that help topic starter? Eh, I think, unfortunately, for a hypothetical variant that now begins, the streams to check for compatibility.

"Mylenium" wrote:
Since you are not wrong, but we are talking about two different things - just as it is "right" does so in accordance with the standards, or how to get with "somehow it works anyway" durchwurschtelt as currently Adobe, Apple, Nero and most other synonymous just do. , O).


The issue here was a real - what is the question now actually do? I personally like to commend the entire HD projects on a removable disk repealed. Because one's for future versions of the greatest possible freedom.

If not, is synonymous m2t certainly a good choice, as cj says - but because it is largely standardized, as the AVCHD various dialects, which we have today. Disadvantage is probably that the material will hold a render older generation - but whom the bother, you can do is cancel the project. And then falling in securing higher than m2t synonymous sound formats such as AC3 2.0 or AC3 5.1 gone - and they must then synonymous extra lift if desired.

Some products are synonymous templates integrated Blu Ray - for Rausrendern in AVC or mpeg2. Is it synonymous use - but then you do hold a authoring tool. And so easy is still not as easy on the "compatibility" to hope - Example: Vegas 8 AVC material is not really into Encore CS3 to process - only who's now? Vegas? Encore? How will the user notice?

"Mylenium" wrote:
... and then it should be possible to cross-program to establish workflows without having to make tired. Until then, a well or ill nothing left within a product family to move in order to avoid problems.


This benefits only what if the family already has all features that you actually need. Blu Ray Authoring, some only a few products - and yet very few people have Blu Ray burner and player, but already cut this type of material. Initial solutions are distinguished from content - such as the output to AVCHD DVDs, what about with Encore CS3 (via the burning of the image) or Vegas 8 can. But still have enough players playing problems aAber actually expected with each new version of the program, the situation here better.

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