Infoseite // Beginner Question: The proper use of a tripod ?????



Frage von martha:


I am currently implementing a Book "video - digital cinematic practice simply" reading of Günter judge. It is "unfortunately" a book that is s.den real "only" amateur filmmakers intended, ie, he assumes that they are NOT cut films.

Will now turn to the theme Tripod: The Book synonymous advocated that the pure amateur filmmakers certainly NOT synonymous tripod used, he suggests, therefore, of course, synonymous with long focal lengths from the shooting, because you are not from the hand of "preserved" are.

IS now my question: I assume that there are in this forum but rather "ambitious" filmmaker - HOW TO SET UP YOUR ON TRIPOD how often you use it, it is AN ABSOLUTE MUST FOR you .... etc.! WHAT CAN STILL SAVE THE IMAGE STABILIZER!

I come from the rail of photography: Here it is so easy (as long as enough light is available) ... simply increases the shutter speed .....

lg aus Wien. Martha

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Antwort von oliver II:

Hello Martha!

A tripod is always required if you want to have quiet scenes. In contrast to photography what it's not (exclusively) a matter of getting sharp pictures, but little unwanted movement in the film to have. Therefore, shortening the exposure time (in your XM2 is easy to set) is not sufficient.
If desired, the movement of the video is (eg, tracking, etc.), then deliberately abandoned on a tripod. However, please note that at the moment has come into fashion big loose movement that will bring more dynamics into the movie rather unnatural. When we look twitches and jerks so synonymous not permanently out the image detail and her.
As a highly recommended here that of Velbon Tripods (search function propagated). Eighth, but the fact that it has a fluidgedämpften pan and tilt head.

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Antwort von randoni:

Of course there is always synonymous with what it is rotated. it is synonymous larger productions (eg tatort) with scenes on some rickety manifests. if it fits it's nice. if it does not fit are things of nasty.
I film at least 2 / 3 with tripod and only the rest freehand and then very selectively. Most data have then I know how and where I cut in a place for. a subjective eg freehand sometimes I like very much: o)

There
. r

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Antwort von schumi65:

Hello Martha,

I came very quickly to the tripod, because I liked the film results with the troubled wabbling have. For time-consuming recording (ie when I have time to shoot) use the Velbon DV 7000, a very good tripod of price / performance here, with fluid head for smooth panning, really works great. The part cost as at the 89 Euronen the Internet (google time).
On the move (I hike a lot), or for parties and children's parties, where the position is changed frequently, I use a monopod. This is impractical and tradable stabilize the camera. That is, in any case better than handheld shooting. As I said, I went to this Händegezitter the biscuit (no, I do not have "Tadderich" and synonymous'm not an old old man :-)). The synonymous is because the camcorder is too small and light, as a counterweight to stabilize missing.
But the camera monopod s.The screwed, already helps to increase stability, without which I do go out, as I grip the tripod with one hand and the camera can hold with your other hand.
Everything clear? Hope I could help you.
Many greetings to Vienna.

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Antwort von Axel:

Situation: marry your best friend. She asks you if you could not make a video of the wedding.
A sad thought, certainly. Nothing, it seems, which could provoke an "ambitious" Filmer. But that's the challenge, and it's about making the best film of Gabi's big day.
Where have you here uses the tripod?
For outdoor shots outside the church before and after the ceremony. Point. Everything else would you kill by the static of the recording. Since it is important to practice good hand-held camera or Jens'Methode with the monopod.

You are going with friends to a harvest. More for fun. Your camera do you have it, but no tripod. Suddenly you're herbstbunten of the vineyard landscape, the bizarre, nice people and the mysterious art of wine making so enthralled that you spontaneously decides to make a little of documentation.
Beautiful, expressive images, fast photographs, which are jointed by the assembly into a whole.
No matter how calmly you try to hold the camera: You'll be mad at you forever, that you do not have predominantly a tripod used.

Human interaction (no preference whether festive with glossy or dramatic):
Hand-held camera.
Long shot, medium shot, everything that falls under observation, or see: Tripod!

A tip to pan: Panorama pans are always tough and unfilmisch. If you are the pastor at the weeping mother (swivel and can be better than a cut), then make a quick, one Reißschwenk. Den you must, whether from the hand or from the tripod, before practice, so that you come clean to a halt.
The beginner's mistake with the "Suchschwenks" in no case should you make (New thread).

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Antwort von MPPLAY:

here were actually already identified the main factors.
you learn with the growing practice ... much money is synonymous ask but one of constant weight.

My experience:

1. practice with a quiet hand and adapted breath technique
2. not rest on the fixed points for the cam search
3. experiment with movement
4. reasonable focal length to choose
5. tripod for really smooth panning
6 Monopod

received s.wasser give the horizon before, so the sea or the lake does not expire after a page.

s.auge film is directly from my view out and keep quiet s.schlechtesten

gruß martin

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Antwort von Markus:

"MPPLAY" wrote: s.auge film is directly from my view out and keep quiet s.schlechtesten
I can not confirm. In fact, if the camcorder s.Kopf supported (using the viewfinder is pushed to the eye), which gives extra rigidity and the tremor of the hands is next reduced.

Especially good to do that when you sit and thereby prop up the elbows on a table can.

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Antwort von Alpinist:

Hello,

I talked last night with a friendly Filmmakers and of getting him to the following Sahverhalt this answer:

- Shooting in Mountain Tours
- Tripod at highest 50% (rather 30%) of the images available
- Tripod weight 2 to 2,5 kg (see here)

He said that the tripod was not an intelli,
- I would probably rarely use the tripod because the input box and was too cumbersome.
- It is simply too easy to get really quiet recordings.
- It is simply an average modest look like when it jumps of a free-hand to a quiet tripod shot.
- As a continuous steady hand, a total integrated data recording, unified, and thus is more comfortable for the viewer.

How are you since your opinions? Now, a tripod is not recommended if it can be used for only part of the assignment?

Thanks + greetings

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Antwort von Wiro:

"Mountaineer" wrote: ... as a continuous steady hand, a total integrated data recording, unified, and thus the viewer is more comfortable
Hello,
Is it possible to see. Synonymous or not.
Just shoot at Mountain (hike) is such a thing with the handheld shots - there are often found medium shot or long shots, pans, zooms, or even on the mountaintop, 15sec-Takes of the hiking group, looking down into the valley, etc. wiggle - as it is not, that produces motion sickness, especially when the horizon is in the Picture. Since the film friend with the 50% tripod is probably right. But that continuous ink "consistent" looks like - well. Good interposed quiet recordings contribute more to the fact that the film has a total balance.

Personally, I take walks with this kind with no tripod, it's too cumbersome and labor intensive. But a sack of rice for this, I have 500 grams (), which serves me as a tripod substitute. As you can draufstellen the camcorder quickly and target times when there is a rock, a table, a bench or a small wall in the vicinity. Or shall we kanns synonymous to the ground. The pictures are bomb-proof, but not well suited for panning.

In contrast to a commercial image film for a mountain village or a ski resort. Since there is usually stand duty. But since the hike is not synonymous in the foreground, but the "work". And there is usually synonymous more time and planning so far. And someone who carries the tripod ;-)))
Gruss Wiro

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Antwort von Uwe:

Who carries a heavy tripod on holiday with the rum? I once suggested that of Bruno zugelgt TravelPod:
http://www.cullmann-foto.de/html/products/stative/reise/3090.htm

In combination with a one-legged one is in many cases, but rather well clear ...
But, just as Wiro writes that when it comes to commissions, etc. are (if the rotation so the focus) is but one thing is quite different ran s.The. Then tripod is usually required ...

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Antwort von Alpinist:

Then I am saving my money for the Manfrotto and still get a 40 EUR Velbon, if I should need one ... ;-)

Yes I'm a walking stick when you use the monopod can and a small pocket tripod synonymous. When you stick it's only stupid, that we must always screwing like a champ (handle down, camera on it again and vice versa). The bag with the rice but it is a very good idea! Possibly. can be modeled with the existing equipment resources.

To order works, it is not, I will only make good shots and me in the other half of the recreational program s.Editing romp ;-)

Regards

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Antwort von steveb:

seen recently at Photokina .... Bendable Ball Joint Stand essays which s.nahezu affixed to everything .... but how they still were called the same?

Know someone?
merci

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Antwort von Markus:

"Mountaineer" wrote: How are you since your opinions? Now, a tripod is not recommended if it can be used for only part of the assignment?
This may be a food for thought: Is not recommend a Steadicam, because one it uses only a few shots? Or a crane? A dolly? - No, certainly not. If you want quiet shots in each recording situations, you may waive any of these tools!

All in all, the classic tripod of all sizes, the vast scope and I would recommend anyone to give up the ultimate in image stabilization, just because he might just come in every third scene is used. ;-)

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Antwort von Alpinist:

"Mark" wrote: This may be a food for thought: Is not recommend a Steadicam, because one it uses only a few shots? Or a crane? A dolly? - No, certainly not. If you want quiet shots in each recording situations, you may waive any of these tools!
Sure, but there is just so NOT about creating lasting quiet recordings. I had a remote-controlled crane climbing the wall, but quite happy ;-)

"Mark" wrote: "Mountaineer" wrote: How are you since your opinions? Now, a tripod is not recommended if it can be used for only part of the assignment?
All in all, the classic tripod of all sizes, the vast scope and I would recommend anyone to give up the ultimate in image stabilization, just because he might just come in every third scene is used. ;-)

Overdrawn said I mean my question as follows: worthwhile to use a tripod if alternate flamingo making (70%) and completely smooth (30%) pictures? The point was possible preserve homogeneous film style, as this seems to work consistently on the viewer ...

Regards

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Antwort von Markus:

"Mountaineer" wrote: Overdrawn said I mean my question as follows: worthwhile to use a tripod if alternate flamingo making (70%) and completely smooth (30%) pictures?
I answer that once covered: flamingo making shots fly out to the cut! ;-)

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Antwort von Alpinist:

"Mark" wrote: "Mountaineer" wrote: Overdrawn said I mean my question as follows: worthwhile to use a tripod if alternate flamingo making (70%) and completely smooth (30%) pictures?
I answer that once covered: flamingo making shots fly out to the cut! ;-)

Why? In the DVD case is still room for a loose Kotzbeutel - at least a more intense experience than any Ambilight ;-)

Regards

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Antwort von wolfgang:

It hangs off of the claims, which has cost you.

I have some on my last trip to the USA here already mentioned Velbon DV 7000 mitgehabt - on top of a monopod, and was filmed with an FX1 (ie for a more severe conditions prosumer camera). And so I was quite satisfied. I do not even mess up my vacation videos more, because the thing wobbles too much.

For such things as first communions, I use a Schulterstiv. And I've just bought myself another monopod s.Fuß with swivel head tilting and rubber stopper.

And for the alpine use, I would consider synonymous, what's the claim - Bobble-stop images are usually more rausgeschnitten without stabilization ists just always a risk.

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Antwort von flori:

there are pull-based DIY, with ceiling beams of the ceiling is s.The pins so that they can screw. from which I've built a monopod to me. tripod head on top one. The advantage: you can use it as a monopod with approximately 170cm, or you ziehts has made and 3 meters higher. The tripod is then used as a small crane to be synonymous. cons: one has no more sharpness in the attack. "rec" via remote control.

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Antwort von Markus:

"floral" wrote: there are pull-based DIY, with ceiling beams of the ceiling is s.The fixes ...
That is certainly ideal for very large people, but what weighs as a prop? (I'm thinking s.diese supports, such as those used on construction sites: Completely made of metal!) ;-)

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