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Frage von AMH:


VideoAktiv both wrote and video tapes that are slowly eliminated and FireWire or USB through USB2 HighSpeed to be replaced.

Wiso FireWire is to be abolished, as it is I know better than USB?

In addition, there is still FireWire 800, which is twice as fast as traditional FireWire port. It can not be so hard to promote this port!

Apparently the Windows world just wants the marks s.sich seize power: D

Probably because the quality does not matter anymore.

(Of Apple iPod is synonymous already shipped without FireWire)

Greeting with fire

Alex

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Antwort von Valentino:

Hi,
synonymous've heard about it. My new camcorder (DCR-PC1000) supports the synonymous, but have until now only indirectly (with the MainConcept MPEG encoder) geschaft that get on my computer Materiel Calculator to. Apart from the camcorder control via USB 2.0 spins completely. The Bildquallität is synonymous net so the best and the sound is totally squigly. I work with MSP 7 (Service Pack 3) and not even this program supports the dubbing via USB. So I am totally satisfied with Firewire and see no reason to switch to USB 2.0. Is there really even Firewire 800 on a Mainbaord for Windows? I know the standard until now only from the G5.
Gruß Tino

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Antwort von StefanS:

Friends, believe it, Alex has, unfortunately, right.

USB's so simple, easy and and And.

Here, there's some time ago a comparatively between USB and Firewire with the better end for Firewire. But this will not change the fact that only people who like video on Firewire and share the great mass hirnfreie computer but thanks Miniweich, Intel and the major advertising agencies to USB. And then we wonder what will prevail.
And unsecured creditors, the video people slowly around, because as you say yourself, dive on the first video cameras that play computer via USB. Whether this is good or not, time is no preference, but gefällts the mass, because USB, yes, we have ever heard in the computer, but Firewire?

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von Markus:

Hello,

the only thing that bothers me s.Firewire is that the 4-pin Male and Bushes are so fiddly. Even in the professional sector have only this fuddeligen DV device interfaces. At least mechanically would be an alternative USB yes, but whether it will really catch on, where it is currently the FireWire video interface and is the co-operation of computers, recorders and camcorders (thanks to Universal OHCI driver) works so well ...?!

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Antwort von Markus:

"Stefan" wrote: Here, there's some time ago a comparatively between USB and Firewire with the better end for Firewire. But this will not change the fact that we only employ people on video firewire, the great mass hirnfreie computer but thanks Miniweich, Intel and the major advertising agencies to USB. And then we wonder what will prevail.

Then it will run almost like the time when VHS: Of the three video systems (Video2000, Betamax and VHS) is made through the worst. And that is what we call progress. :-(

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Antwort von AMH:

I will not deprive you of the article VideoAktiv Digital and have it placed so most network ..

Since I do not for the revenue loss of VideoAktiv would be held liable should any of the articles are looking at the next edition of VideoAktiv buy ;-)

I think this is a fairly serious issue, because I think this is a step backwards in the tech Nick. Really BLÖÖÖD sowas :-(

Best regards

Alex




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Antwort von Markus:

This indeed can really imagine anything good. If there is only enough audio - and video in the future, people would pay attention to Firewire devices, and could find no fully functional IEEE1394 interface, a buyer ... but too few to cavort (BEFORE Camcorder Buying here in the forum) And too many unsuspecting in the major technology markets.

I'm not stupid! - Or does it?

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Antwort von AMH:

I can imagine but the best will not, as one can get rid of FireWire!

All of which have little idea of matter, but should realize that USB is not a replacement for FireWire?

Ifs are necessary, we fight with FireWire to the bitter end! : D

Alex

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Antwort von steve@home:

And what, then, is the low speed advantage of USB 2.0 when the vile old Firewire had 400 Mbit / s and provides only DV 25Mbit / s needs?

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Antwort von hannes:

'And what brings the slight speed advantage of USB 2.0 ..

Where is the speed advantage lie?
Measuring times the throughput of more than 15 minutes! And then compare them.

Is as before with Video2000 and U-Matic.
The Mist of VHS has become, simply,
as were the "right" people there behind.

Good luck from Essen
hannes

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Antwort von Markus:

"hannes" wrote: > Where is the speed advantage [of of are USB 2.0]?
Measuring times the throughput of more than 15 minutes! And then compare them.


The data rate of USB 2.0 is the maximum achievable data rate. The latter, however, always bend it back, as synonymous to run on other computers access the same bus. There is nothing like it on firewire, since the data rate is relatively stable.

"hannes" wrote: Is as before with Video2000 and U-Matic. The Mist of VHS has become, simply because the "right" people were standing there behind.

... or the wrong ones! : - /

"AMH" wrote: I can imagine but the best will not, as one can get rid of FireWire! All of which have little idea of matter, but should realize that USB is not a replacement for FireWire?

The economy is not doing what is right or reasonable, but what promises s.meisten profit. Sorry! - We as consumers can control this development, however. Just Do not buy camcorders that do not have a fully functioning and OHCI-compliant FireWire interface!

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Antwort von spikomatix:

naja I see the glass half full, just and I am glad that has multiple interfaces xm 2 and USB and firewire.

to USB 2.0 I have to say probably is making geschwindikkeitsvorteil dv captures not noticeable .. but as USB2.0 hdd already!

Of which manufactures I rejoice over USB2.0

gruß

Spiko

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Antwort von AMH:

"spikomatix" wrote:
to USB 2.0 I have to say probably is making geschwindikkeitsvorteil dv captures not noticeable .. but as USB2.0 hdd already!

Of which manufactures I rejoice over USB2.0

gruß

Spiko


Hmm ... USB 2.0 hard disks are still "a lot" slower than FireWire drives! As we have already explained markus, they need a lot of computing power.

Just ask one of Freud, a G5 with FireWire 800's and try once an HD (FW 800) from. ;-) And then say something positive about another USB 2, D * g *

Gruss

Alex

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Antwort von AMH:

"Markus" wrote:

The economy is not doing what is right or reasonable, but what promises s.meisten profit. Sorry! - We as consumers can control this development, however. Just Do not buy camcorders that do not have a fully functioning and OHCI-compliant FireWire interface!


Well, people can already be extremely blind. But it was always like this ... purely historical point of view ..

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Antwort von mdb:

I recently heard on the SATIS Paris of a SONY engineer, which should be connected to the proposed internal XDCAM disk drives for advanced computer via a firewire. Übetrtragungsrate 1600 or 3200 Mb / s

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