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Cam unter 1000€, Bildqualität ist mir das wichtigste

Cam under 1000 ¬, the image quality is most important to me



Frage von UlmsSkyliner:
Oktober 2007

Hello,
I would like to see now, after long deliberations buy a new cam.
I know there are already many threads in which to purchase advice is asked, but I would be very grateful if you give me some cameras would recommend.

Pain limit 1000 ¬
- (Very) Good image quality is most important to me
-If a connection for an external microphone have
synonymous with non-so-good lighting "good pictures" bring
-Accessory shoe (but not his)
-16:9

Which cameras "fit" to my claims?
Called simply a paaar please models synonymous if desired, or 2 of my "requirements" are not met, such as accessory shoe or whatever.

MfG Chris



Antwort von jansi:

Whether SD or HD but you should clarify in advance.



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

HD means is that I have a powerful calculator need to watch the videos to edit / cut.
Or IRR I there?

Well a few details of my calculator:
2.2 GHz
768 MB RAM
eig 280 GB hard drive (80 gb +200 gb internal external),
However, we are no longer recognized external








Antwort von jansi:

Depends on the type of camera on.
For example, the HDV is not as big a problem.
But HD is worth only HDFernseher etc.



Antwort von Nacho:

HV20. You can, if necessary synonymous dv output cut and the quality remains high - and can at any time for HDV material on the tape access.



Antwort von jansi:

Jop in HD is clearly the HV20. Why?
Therefore:
Very good price / performance ratio (very sharp images)
Recording on tape -> Virtually no loss of quality (in the post)
....

In the SD area synonymous's doing very well, the NV-GS500
Advantage
3CCD (good pictures, no color, etc.)
Focus ring (ideal for manual focus control)
Opportunity to photograph (clearly, one should not expect top performance, but the photos are bad with good illumination not synonymous.)
....



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Hello,
already have a lot to read HV 20.
Should seem really good, but I like these do not by appearance. I am aware that a camera, the picture and sound quality is so good and not the optics of the Cam, but plays for me the appearance of Cam synonymous a role.

About NV GS 500 of Panasonic, I have also informed.

Has a better than Bildqualiät NV GS 320

Sure is expensive NV GS 500, but that does not Bildqualiät that is better or?
I think the money was in the 500s in the focus ring, active accessory shoe, for connecting an external mic, etc. "invested".

First, yes I wanted to buy NV GS 320, but unfortunately, it does not have a connector for an external microphone.

Can you give me something about the image quality of the Panasonic NV GS 500 say?
Or even more models name?

MfG Chris



Antwort von waschmitteljunky:

eine freundin panasonc the 500s and the quality of my HV20 has brought them to howl. I would offer cut-dv remained hätt I bought the panasonic, Now I am very happy for me to have decided HDV! HV20 and a good external micro-leaves no wish open.



Antwort von Rene K:

zum Bild

The HV20 cam can be optimally exploited.



Antwort von waschmitteljunky:

wow - these accessories I wish to christmas ;-)



Antwort von StefanS:

sabber, slime, lechz :-)

Greeting
Stefan



Antwort von Nacho:

Sorry, but the little HV20 is sexy!

At

http://www.hv20.com/showthread.php?t=3

look!








Antwort von waschmitteljunky:

What does the NV GS 500 which has 20 non-GM?
Zuebhörschuh
what else?



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Can you give me more cameras recommend?
Or are the two above the best, not the ¬ 1000 limit?



Antwort von jansi:

Öhmm, jaah.



Antwort von Nacho:

"Anonymous" wrote:
What does the NV GS 500 which has 20 non-GM?
Zuebhörschuh
what else?


The HV20 is synonymous accessory shoe, but no focus ring.
The gs500 has no headphone jack, there are DIY solutions with small cable clutter.
And the GS500 can not HDV - I was the knockout criterion.
In addition to the price of the HV20 at the moment ...



Antwort von waschmitteljunky:

Slashcam NOTE WELL TEST HV20 for the price around 760 ¬ with the nächstgünstigste evaluation GUT is the SonyFX7 for about ¬ 2530 to - Any questions? ;-)

http://www.camcorder-test.com/



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Is the image quality of the HV 20 really that good?

If yes really a good cam to me just like they did not :-(



Antwort von Nacho:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Slashcam NOTE WELL TEST HV20 for the price around 760 ¬ with the nächstgünstigste evaluation GUT is the SonyFX7 for about ¬ 2530 to - Any questions? ;-)


So, 760 ¬ for the Camera + 115 ¬ Raynox HD-6600 + 100 ¬ Rode Videomic're still under 1000 ¬ and without wide-and noise problems (Macken the HV20)



Antwort von Nacho:

"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Is the image quality of the HV 20 really that good?

Have plenty of film material at fxsupport.de or hv20.com (among others) in order for you to be able to decide for himself whether the quality is good or not.

"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:

If yes really a good cam to me just like they did not :-(


Then you should be the title of the thread change!



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Okay.
Werd me tomorrow look at the cameras in real look.
Would you at the Cam Pro market for ¬ 50 cheaper to buy, or rather in his right Photo Shop a little more expensive?








Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

I've just a few videos of the above Page (fxsupport.de), AGM 20 angeguckt and am very excited of the image quality.
Now I would still like the videos of NV GS 500 in Comparison view.
But can you tell me whether the Bildqualiät differs or you hardly see a difference?

Can the HV 20 Only in 16:9 mode or synonymous 4:3?



Antwort von waschmitteljunky:

with the HV20 in DV, you can still 4:3 mode synonymous record - but I would not do it all in HDV 16:9



Antwort von maus1208:

... You can only fly so probably not ..

http://www.ssontech.com/content/skool.mov



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Good morning :-)
HD material, I can with my editing program (Adobe Premiere) cut?



Antwort von Nacho:

"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Good morning :-)
HD material, I can with my editing program (Adobe Premiere) cut?


Yes can du



Antwort von maus1208:

s.version ap-pro1.5
gruß cj



Antwort von UlmsSkyliner:

Hello,
've now established a very detailed conversation with the very friendly seller my Panasonic NV GS 500 purchased.
I had the HD material is not always with my Adobe Premiere 6 can cut that I had not upgraded my computer to a HD ready Television is synonymous and synonymous absent not planned to buy one.
Also I liked the Canon HV 20 are not optical.

Thanks again for the advice in this forum.

MfG Chris



Antwort von wiederkehrendefrage:

ich hab mal ne ask again, unzwar where is the difference between the
http://www.amazon.com/ Canon -HV20-Definition-Camcorders-Stabilized/dp/B000MUV6BA/ref = pd_bbs_sr_1/103-0402235-2711004? Ie = UTF8 & s = electronics & qid = 1192970384 & sr = 8-1
(price: ~ 630 ¬)

and the German:
http://www.amazon.de/ Canon -2060B001-HV20-HD-Camcorders-HDV1080i/dp/B000N86JB8/ref = pd_bbs_sr_1/303-7822515-5202606? Ie = UTF8 & s = ce-de & qid = 1192970657 & sr = 8-1
(price: 769 ¬)

I know of the distinction in SD DV also with the build repetition rates, but with HDV Diferenzierung I can not find? Can I as a Help?
Thank you.



Antwort von otzelot:

None knows the difference? I seem to be technically identical.








Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
None knows the difference? I seem to be technically identical.

The technical differences between the European and the North American HV20, you can quite easily on the respective homepages Canon reference. In principle, they should rely on the recording frequencies: 60i/30p/24p in the U.S., 50i/25p here. For the rest, probably the downscaled output once DV NTSC and PAL are made once.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Peter06:

"UlmsSkyliner" wrote:
Hello,
've now established a very detailed conversation with the very friendly seller my Panasonic NV GS 500 purchased.
I had the HD material is not always with my Adobe Premiere 6 can cut that I had not upgraded my computer to a HD ready Television is synonymous and synonymous absent not planned to buy one.
Also I liked the Canon HV 20 are not optical.

Thanks again for the advice in this forum.

MfG Chris


Since the seller has again made a good business ...
Let's look at what you've missed:

Quote:

Right click to save (30MB)
http://www.nightfallinteractive.com/sc/HV20/rain.wmv

Camera Settings:
Shutter Priority Mode
Shutter Speed: 100
Locked Exposure: -2

HV20 custom settings
Col. Depth -1
Sharpness -1
Contrast -1
Brightness -1


More than 600 euros for DV würd I do not spend more. The HV20 has been around for 750 euros ...



Antwort von Sen:

Here is a question relating to:

Can the HV20 in order to reduce Resolutionbisschen pans better to get that Zitterei is gone?

Is there any trick against?

MfG
Sen



Antwort von space_diver:

Funny that someone from the exact same decision stands.
The trends are so clear in the direction of HV20.

Again the question: Can I part synonymous with the normal 4:3 / 16:9 DV output matters. On HD I want to cut now synonymous net!



Antwort von mikaelo:

"space_diver" wrote:
Can I part synonymous with the normal 4:3 / 16:9 DV output matters. On HD I want to cut now synonymous net!


Yes, you can record HDV and then export as DV, but only true 16:9. But this should not be a problem if you want 4:3, because all you need is the clip "cropping".



Antwort von space_diver:

I now have the HV20 and brought a little played. The picture quality is well and happy s.XM1 ran, which I had often since. More will be revealed shortly. The whole section is pretty small built, but maybe it's not so bad, at times synonymous spontaneously etws filming.

Very nice, I think the side effect that I have all my digicam filter (via adapter to 46mm) for the partial use - hence, the shopping sometimes unnecessary ;-)




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