Frage von Golfer86:
Hello,
I am looking for a camcorder for golf.
The cam should be a high resolution, many images per second. Despite the high speeds of 200 km / h, the bats are still clearly visible sein.Also not blurry or in a series to be seen.
The cam should be out soon s.einen next PC or TV can be connected.
The price can be up to 1000 euros or something over it?
Greeting
Golfer86
Antwort von Bernd E.:
many frames per second ... up to 1000 Euros Cameras that are really many pictures per second to create, are extremely well over 1000 Euros, but perhaps will help you if you look at the details of this next:
http://forum.slashcam.de/camcorder-fur-golflehrer-vt32371.html
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Golfer86:
The articles I have read synonymous, but I never find the JVC PD 1st
Can you give me not even recommend a different cam?
Antwort von Markus:
Topics synonymous terms, see:
Antwort von robbie:
since you probably want to perform analysis, I'll tell you that it's not on the frames per second, but on an adjustable shutter matters with which you can reduce bewegungsunschärfe.
I have my per synonymous soeine set up and works great!
schöne grüße,
robbie
Antwort von Golfer86:
I have now decided the following technical data:
30x optical Soome
high speed shutter min. 5000
and on dvd recordable.
Which devices can you recommend me.
Greeting
Golfer
Antwort von Markus73:
I have now decided the following technical data:
30x optical Soome Normally found only in the lower-class entrants, such suck Lenses usually not much more professional and the amateur know anyway, so that they do not need a zoom.
and on dvd recordable. Then I hope you change your decision yet. On this topic there is much here in the forum to read.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Golfer86:
What suggestions you do before Mark?
Antwort von Markus73:
What suggestions you do before Mark? Basically times as the system is nothing other than mini-DV. Everything else prevents a proper post.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Bernd E.:
Which devices can you recommend me. Your requirements practically the only two models of Panasonic VDR-D220EG-S and VDR-D160EG-S. Just behind them a little longer because of the shortest shutter speed is the SonyDCR-DVD109E. Whether, however, a DVD camcorder and s.sich to recommend a 30-fold zoom is useful, is questionable. I would not do both.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Golfer86:
With "dvd" I can but the dvd in the same pc Schmeiser and then edit and with a system to show students.
What is the advantage of your system Markus?
Greeting
Antwort von Markus73:
With "dvd" I can but the dvd in the same pc Schmeiser and then edit and with a system to show students.
What is the advantage of your system Markus?
Greeting Uh, that's not "my system", but exactly what is recommended s.jeder corner ;-)
DVD called MPEG2 format, which is a frame-cross (ie, movement-related) high compression, while Mini-DV Picture Picture for stores. For this reason, an existing MPEG file only with great expense and related loss of quality for further processing "broken" are.
The most popular video editing programs are all on mini-DV aligned. DVD material can be either not or only with problems, edit,'s try out.
DVD camcorders are for people who have any form of post-exclusive. DVD is a format, it is very limited for a suitable post.
My opinion, therefore, who in any way wish to edit, make a mistake if he is not for Mini-DV decides. It may be that in the future someday be different, but still it is so.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von Markus:
With "dvd" I can but the dvd in the same pc Schmeiser and then edit ... This is a popular and well gross misjudgment. This advertising slogan of Sony: Record, rausnehmen, view. A video editing is not as promised.
Antwort von Daigoro:
With "dvd" I can but the dvd in the same pc Schmeiser and then edit and with a system to show students.
Why not the Camera s.einen Television will be added to the recordings the students perform?
Where a PC is, you can but synonymous NEN Television Next to make small (50cm + - for 30 euros from the local classifieds?)
We film occasionally synonymous training / tournaments with. The best picture quality has recorded directly of the Camera s.Television (approx. 70cm diagonal picture, nothing special schickes).
For video analysis evenings is captured, processed (slow motion as much as possible zb) and on DVD / video CD (mp2) burned (can be seen on any DVD player or computer play).
The image quality suffers, however, grad with very fast movements, but little (if what is moving and the still camera pans, there's just at a lower data rate suitable for CD-ever unsightly artefacts).
For the download is complete and yet next runterkomprimiert as WMV's in the Internet. But more is ne spielerei because so strong reduction and compression details hardly to be seen.
Antwort von Jan:
DVD camcorders are just what a good thing for the filmmakers do not want to edit, and then only when in the Camera in VR mode when using a DVD-RW / RAM (Panasonic).
The advertising slogan so synonymous agrees very rarely, often, the disc, which often run 10 minutes can last. Only a part of the DVD player & DVD recorder of the camera immediately without further notice. Vorm PC must in principle almost always be finalized, unless you put the camera via USB to - but again has not any.
And of the 18-20 min recording time in the best quality speaks Nobody, so there is now DL, are merely expensive, some players can not read and then just take the cameras-R DL / + R DL not RWs.
By rotating the 40 (60 min medium quality) min DVD I speak now not all of the camcorder times has turned around - knows the danger.
And the editing with the DVD camcorder-known programs such as Magic Co. Deluxe 2007 and is often seen as synonymous not so easy - as described.
And with the 1 / 4000 sec? I'm not sure whether what does well in the video sector, I make no such recordings. In the photo area you need such Verschluszeiten almost never, unless you want to create a explosion of a Böller hold otherwise very rare.
This is synonymous a mistake many people make the s.Anfang with their Camera s.der North Loop and there are mitschwenken want to 1 / 4000 sec is then unusable. Professionals take about 1 / 125 sec, because the movement s.sich still recognizable, but is otherwise subject. It is rather s.den images / sec on a video camera.
For manual shutter falls Sony Schon mal raus, HC 1 / 7 should be the cheapest Sony Consumer be the do, you can only select sports program and hope. Canon, JVC and Panasonic have Shuttervorwahl manual.
And the lossy compression Interframe (DVD & HDD camcorder) has no chance against the intra frame compression of MiniDV - one might almost say without loss, at least by factor of 1:5, Lossless is 1:2 / 1:3, only the data is there in no way modified and are available after decompression without detail loss again, Mark has well described.
If you think the 1 / 8000 second test will take one Panasonic, no preference which DVD & HDD or MiniDV models, all have the manual shutter of 1 / 50 to 1 / 8000 second, at least in recent years.
VG
Jan
Antwort von Daigoro:
Alternatively to the recording on DVD, many cameras now quite receptive to SD card in a MotionJPG codec.
Since MotionJPG no intra frame compression has come for motion analysis very useful frames out.
See: http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Erfahrungsberichte/720p15-with-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-LX2.html
A Still Image Camera with video capability.
In the comments is that this camera in video mode, not manual exposure time can be regulated and probably at 1 / 15 sec is (around 15 fps record?). The result is a very strong Bewegungsunschaerfe what the scope of the motion analysis again very much in the way (which brings a nice one frame where the movement wants to see a ghostly shadow is?).
Is there any video cameras on the market MJPG on the SD card (which is synonymous directly plug into the computer, is like a removable hard drive deals - very easy) with reasonably high fps (15 fps is not much .. 30 ?) Number of records in a reasonable resolution (848x480 / 30/B/s ever sounds good .. 'normal' at the moment seems rather 320x240 / 30B / s or 640x480 / 15B / s) when the shutter speed manual may regulate ( at least in the area up to 1 / 100 sec).
That would be the killer camera for all the sports video analysis to record.
Edit: something here? Panasonic SDR-S10EG-K:
http://www.produkte.panasonic.de/product/product.asp?sStr=4 @ - @ 10 @ 21 @ 122@@@@SDR-S10EG-K @ SD | Camcorders old = @ & N & upper = & prop =
Where, however, MPEG2 video, if I read correctly, so nix again with clear pictures of each ... ?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
the 15 frames per second are in the LX 2 only at 1280x720.
Many models have 30 frames per second, some firms halt 848x480 other 640x480. Then, probably of a 1 / 30 sec is assumed.
Shutter for digicams? Most have not even a manual shutter at the Photo function best example Ixus all models, the "small" is the Panasonics LX 2 synonymous one of the few exceptions.
I can think of no pure Digicam off the one where I change the shutter speed during operation of the video may change.
Possibly in the hermaphrodite Cameras (Video & Still Image) of Sanyo and Samsung, with whom I have but rather bad experience.
Since the LX 2 no (s) AF / Zoom / metering during recording more carries, it would be for me, "died" when I play video ambitions would have been synonymous since helping the 16 / 9 chip, the optical stability and the 28er WW nothing more. The manual shutter when it is only in photo mode.
Metering, white balance or gain during the videos now have a few times synonymous cameras.
A little curious, I was on the Casio EX V 7, which shows H 264er yes Codec for Sony & Panasonic AVCHD what he can, I've unfortunately they have not had in his hand. Casio has been so with her new signal processor Exilim Engine II is a little improved - you can see yes s.der Z 1050 in Comparison to Z 1000th Let's see ....
VG
Jan
