Frage von diletantin:
s.alle hello!
I have a very simple question, I hope, hopefully synonymous fits in this forum.
The point is that a video of a Bandaufritt needs to be done, then the synonymous to the homepage etc.. etc.. come, so synonymous something a professional should be.
Now it is my task cameras and everything else to pay.
We would in any case only rent and not buy. And the film (if one may call it) should, if possible, of two cameras and recorded later be cut (for the cut would have been someone there, because I have no idea).
My questions, as most probably already can think:
1. Where can I get in the Munich area cameras cheap rent?
2. What kind of camera would be suitable?
It is in a closed room, so dark, with all sorts
Lichzeugs, ie headlights, moving heads etc. ..
3. You still need any other equipment so that the synonymous works? (Extra Lighting ....)
ever thanks in advance!
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Video on ... ... Home ... This ranges from SD well - an HD camera so it must not ever be.
... for the cut would have been somebody ... Since it would be important that their cameras elect, whose material it can process synonymous. Least problems should make DV or DVCAM.
... What kind of camera would be suitable? It is dark ... ... Cameras with large sensors can be under these conditions their strengths well-off: My tip would be for example a SonyDSR500/570 etc., anything would be a step synonymous in the JVC GY-DV5000/5100 question. Should you with such devices is not familiar to you, then plan appropriate exercise time, because with automatics (if ever available in the Camera), it has so far not a rotary. Otherwise the SonyZ1, but synonymous with it the automatic switch-off.
... You still need any other equipment ...?... In concert recordings are commonly pleased the musicians when their music in the video hearing is synonymous ;-) In this respect you should think about the microphones to make - possibly a separate Micro ranges in the hall for the Atmo and the actual sound of the tape you can from Remove any existing mixer (via radio link to a camera). Otherwise ordinary course Tripods do not forget! That's why you can sometimes still temporarily with a mobile camera of the shoulder turn.
Antwort von Johannes:
For the sound I was a radio link from the mixer to the camera of course, only made on a channel. This man has something Atmo, alternatively should you have a microphone near the speakers, since the sound from the mixer up to the room is tuned to, but it can turn bad on the television or computer to listen.
For my last Mittschnitt I had a JVC GY DV 500, Canon XL1S and XM2 Canon cameras have all three of the existing light is very good pictures, especially when it comes to the concerts to a dark place, are PD150/170 or vx2000/2100 Sony Of Very popular. They are easy to operate one is mobile and they are Lichstark. In one of the most recent editions of the digital video asset has been a report written synonymous with Kameraepfehlung. Once I have do I sign up.
Antwort von Johannes:
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Antwort von Bernd E.:
...PD150/170 ... True, and I actually had the synonymous meant above when I accidentally "Z1" wrote ... The HDV Camera is purely advised me well, because we are at last turning to this kind of synonymous such dabeihatten.
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
I would spend less time worrying about the camera, but more about light. If you think you could use a tape times simply filming, so it looks chic afterwards, you are vastly mistaken.
The SonyEX1 has about 11 screens with dynamic range schonmal generally what you need, but the difference between Lighted nose and audience will be at least at 20 screens, if you do not care about lighting. Mature Cams so synonymous the Z1, you can generally exclusively, because you need more lighting.
Without illumination, the very black video with a few bright points, and is no preference with what Cam du film, look terrible.
I would be synonymous to schedule at least 4 cameras, with two, it will be piecemeal between Total and Near.
As the sound is concerned, the right way with one single track on a shard decline plus 4x Saalmikrofonierung and mixes later.
MB
Antwort von diletantin:
many many thanks!
It's really nice of you, that ye with my question. I'm sorry, if I do not appear to totally inexperienced but I've no idea exactly synonymous and think that the experts here, but my very next can help.
For sound we have someone who has some idea and the models with microphones and etc. Tonabnehemen no apparent problem will be.
because of the light, I have been synonymous thought that a bigger problem. To illuminate that is synonymous headlight or prefer to rent such a camera light kit?
gruß
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Lighting hire, of course, and not too little. Does not cost much. As I said, you have the audience get to level, and the stage a bit synonymous. Roughly, if a small hall with 200-300 people is, I would have times of less than 6x 2kW out, 4 for the public, 2 for stage, film and before frost, but now you can not set in stone meiseln, because ultimately you have to s.die situation. It can just as well the three might be necessary.
And above all, someone who can arrange synonymous shine. How big and how high is the space? Color? What did you s.Strom available? Phase, how many amps?
Lamps means synonymous, that the atmosphere will suffer because there is a certain basic brightness needs. When filming a concert, so you have to make cutbacks, very clear.
MB
Antwort von Johannes:
So, I do not want to spoil the fun, but he is filming in a disco ...
and I do not believe that you are happy because when the dance floor with 4 spotlights 2kW monoton Hell is made. There's but then lost the atmosphere and the mood. Against a light head is nothing wrong. Or. if you have a wizard with the notes next to the camera with a slightly more light illuminates the current scene. But the whole disco and permanently?
That is exactly the same as for concerts, there will be synonymous and s.and s.ist filmed at the audience with it, but they will not be lit for extra!
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
But, and always. At least times when it will be good. Let it off once and never again get a subsequent order, because the result may be not good. I once happened, when the light of the client side should be there but was not. Rather than to go home, I have filmed. A fatal mistake.
I've really been filmed any magnitude, from indoor stadium with 25,000 spectators, about opera houses with 1,000 - 3,000, to the cabaret bar with 50 people. Regularly, I am with the operators, because of course say that it is too bright light, however, is exactly what a successful recording of a misplaced distinction. Without light, I turn not because it is s.Ende back to me if it looks like shit - and it does absolutely no reason light always.
What you with a head light, I want to be honest a great puzzle, first versaust you mean the other cams, the Picture, secondly need the light so in particular for the shot.
MB
PS: I think "he" is a "she";)
Antwort von diletantin:
I'm sorry that I no longer have responded. But I'm already back. ;)
So, I can already see without proper lighting, we are not next.
I can not say how big the room (very very roughly: 19m long and 17m wide) but it is about 600 people will be there and he is about 4.5 meters high, with the band, however, only about 3rd And everything is painted white.
the current: there are probably 32 and 62 amp connections.
I hope with my dare info can you give me a little help.
Marc ps homemade ball is right, I'm a
she ... :)
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Oh woe ... white walls. Good, has advantages and disadvantages. Advantage is, you have little light with the same amount of light, detriment, rarely looks good:)
So my tip would be spontaneous,
- 8x 1kW with colored foil to the walls, for example, green or blue or pink spotig einzufärben if ne girls's band;) So, each with 4 pieces on each Page of the top down, there some nice Farbkleckse
- 2x 2kW of rear> 3m Height audience over in the direction of stage as a fixed brightening neutral, not just blue, or possibly slightly yellowish organge
- 2x 2kW front left and right in the direction of cross-stage, 5-10m before the stage, the audience still slightly raised as taxable brightening but with some basic brightness (dimmer), the same color as the back
- 4-6x 1kW on stage towards the audience than in white dimmable backlight if off the applause, sees bold!
- Avoid pursuers, only NEN white circle, rarely a pretty picture.
- Stage Backlight design background with black curtain always looks bad, if one is there, those with 3-4 spots in green or blue glow, but spotiges backlight. tape banner synonymous sees only good if it is super geleuchtet because two-dimensional. If in doubt, leave it out.
- Ordentlich bright head light is not forgotten!
For calibration:
- Shot up, so somewhere behind the audience, s.besten an EX1 or any camera with Histoanzeige, Aperture 2.0 - 2.8 (isses else in the room too bright), bright front and rear so that the public is 20-30%, the colorful pages maybe 30-50%. This Aperture s.der Cam then no longer synonymous change. If it is too bright, then reduce light (slides, Dimmer), not the Aperture pinch.
- Show light / stage lighting to give a minimum, the faces are at 40, in the maximum at 90, in the middle of 70th White clothes, but should not be over 90, otherwise it will be shit.
Everything subject to change, but at least time a march towards the next maybe you can help and where you first without synonymous Gaffer should get, but I would force it to you heartily. In sum, the approx. 25kW, 32A, one for connection. In what city where you do films?
MB
Antwort von diletantin:
And again, I arrived half an eternity, not for answers. But I've yet to read the answer.
And I can not say thank you often enough! Also, if I really have no clue, somehow I am so already to help you. And we have already synonymous of a few people heard that we might even help you. So, it will somehow go wrong. ;)
And we are in Munich, where we are synonymous "film" to be.
once again many many thanks!
lieben gruß
Antwort von MarcBallhaus:
Schade. Had been in Cologne, I would have gone smoothly times. Musicians have always with me in a stone board.
Good luck! If you do not need Camera: 39 EUR s.Tag, tell decision, I'll tell you where.
MB
