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Frage von pdrusso:


Hello has someone experience?
what about my heart from the 60? If it is not under fluorescent light flicker? Lowlight Is that really so great as on the video of Laforet?
Thank you

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Antwort von dvcut:

The Nikon has problems with 60Hz, but the Canon is so good and get the Lowlighteigenschaften are the hammer. If interested, we'd like to send some pictures via e-mail.

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Antwort von Zizi:

YES that would be the hammer!
Daniel.Zanetti @ chello.at
Did you see synonymous between the XH A1 and the 5D?
Perhaps then I might buy the D5 still with you ;-)

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Antwort von pdrusso:

"dvcut" wrote: The Nikon has problems with 60Hz, but the Canon is so good and get the Lowlighteigenschaften are the hammer. If interested, we'd like to send some pictures via e-mail.

yes very happy! If possible, such as Zizi wrote.

patrick.russo @ bluewin.ch

Regards
pdrusso

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Antwort von meawk:

"dvcut" wrote: The Nikon has problems with 60Hz, but the Canon is so good and get the Lowlighteigenschaften are the hammer.

Nööööö - the Nikon has no problems - only some users (AEL hold, bypassing the ISO Auto and it funzt...). When properly applied, zero problems and the low-light characteristics are synonymous very good. The Canon has huge problems autofocus in video mode and no external lens is not as much. The small Canon SX1 IS is available in video mode mM after better than the 5DII (staun !?!?) - Bombastic autofocus etc.

With the 5D II should be more "just" take pictures, unless you think about foreign lenses after and is only manual focus. . .

If the D90 firmware with a new 1080p receive - it is clearly the better choice. Currently for me, despite the 720p is the better Wal synonymous as straightforward in the further processing. The 1080p processing quite difficult (real-time editing, etc.).

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Nööööö - the Nikon has no problems - only some users (AEL hold, bypassing the ISO Auto and it funzt...). When properly applied, zero problems and the low-light characteristics are synonymous very good. The Canon has huge problems autofocus in video mode and no external lens is not as much. The small Canon SX1 IS is available in video mode mM after better than the 5DII (staun !?!?) - Bombastic autofocus etc.

With the 5D II should be more "just" take pictures, unless you think about foreign lenses after and is only manual focus. . .

If the D90 firmware with a new 1080p receive - it is clearly the better choice. Currently for me, despite the 720p is the better Wal synonymous as straightforward in the further processing. The 1080p processing quite difficult (real-time editing, etc.).


Well the full 35mm sensor speaks for itself!
and I think that the Nikon in any sector of the D5 has grown!
Are you a holder of a Random D90?

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Antwort von meawk:

[quote = "Zizi"] [
naja the full 35mm sensor speaks for itself!
and I think the nikon in any sector of d5 grown!
are you by chance a professional / owner of a D90? [/ quote]

I've tested both for myself and decided dei D90 - thank God.

But the SX1 IS is really a banger - better than the 5D in the video mode and the low-light capabilities are also class. The synonymous then I've bought and still have lots of coal left. The full sensor - well, if otherwise the whole thing in the video mode botch, then surely the bringts not synonymous. If you have it, I wish you much fun in photography, because it is really good. Is my Seriously, after extensive testing, but my personal opinion synonymous, although they are increasingly shared, just as s.Rand.

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Antwort von dvcut:

There's something for all who are interested in a detailed workshop.
http://revolution.dvcut.de and under www.tommy.de you will find pictures of a German music film production. The rental we are happy with support.

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Antwort von iasi:

[quote = "meawk"] "Zizi" wrote: [
naja the full 35mm sensor speaks for itself!
and I think the nikon in any sector of d5 grown!
are you by chance a professional / owner of a D90? [/ quote]

But the SX1 IS is really a banger - better than the 5D in the video mode and the low-light capabilities are also class. The synonymous then I've bought and still have lots of coal left. The full sensor - well, if otherwise the whole thing in the video mode botch, then surely the bringts not synonymous.


na ja ... the 5dII delivers even at 6400ISO useful results and with a 1/1.4 can objectively be assembled - where 5dII still filming SX1 IS delivers the only black

5dII the sensor with one of the best ... The D90 is synonymous not bad ... http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor

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Antwort von meawk:

[quote = "iasi"] [quote = "meawk"] [quote = "Zizi"] [
- Where the 5dii still filming provides the sx1 is just black

5dii the sensor with one of the best ... The D90 is synonymous not bad ... http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/dxomark-sensor [/ quote]

Well - it is now synonymous not. Belongings on the Christmas market in WBN filmed at night and very very usable images obtained (I'll make on Vimeo purely and publish the link, tomorrow or Sunday).

I want the 5D II is not synonymous maggoty, which is already good, but hard to "act" if a lot of action is. For static shots with a view to the game with the sharpness, etc. (here: http://www.vimeo.com/2559073) super, but take a film on a child's birthday or sports field, a volleyball hall or running times in the summer of a beautiful girl in short skirt and feel behind the times Camera so it - it is very difficult to realize (with the SX1 ISwirds then really "sharp" - the short skirts, etc. - sorry).

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Antwort von iasi:

Incidentally:

PowerShot SX1 IS (HD), max. 4 GB, or 29 min 59 sec

5dII when it comes to 4 GB only on 12 min.

which corresponds to data rates of ca.18 to 38 mb / s

something one can indeed see ... are synonymous for the 5dII available objective far better than the zoom, the sx1

the nikon stores the motion-720p in jpg format, which is less effective as h.264 ... and this is synonymous nor the data rate of the D90 low ... Unfortunately, that speaks against the video quality of the D90 compared to 5dII ...

and last but not least:
where canon via firmware update (or someone using firmware hack) the disadvantages of 5dII about the manual belcihtungseinstellung fix it, it is unlikely nikon 1080p from the camera electronics can herauskitzeln (this extends the processing power simply do not).

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

ISO Bzgl the EOS 5D MKII will be here in the current professional photos of a beginning test the color s.ISO 800 spoken thus, the more the camera studio photographers to talk.

MfG

B. DeKid

I think a hack Firmewear for Powershot rather than umbedingt for the 5D.

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Antwort von iasi:

Quote: I want the 5D II is not synonymous maggoty, which is already good, but hard to "act" if a lot of action is. For static shots with a view to the game with the sharpness, etc. (here: http://www.vimeo.com/2559073) super, but take a film on a child's birthday or sports field, a volleyball hall or running times in the summer of a beautiful girl in short skirt and feel behind the times Camera so it - it is very difficult to realize (with the SX1 ISwirds then really "sharp" - the short skirts, etc. - sorry).

for this recording is the sx1 certainly not ill-suited - the 5dII is not stable and the AF in video mode is good for nothing.

the highly acclaimed 35mm DOF does have its downside synonymous - for a 2 / 3 "sensor is obtained at a far simpler depth

if the 2-3 stops difference of 1/1.4 objective for sx1-zoom and the very good and like 4 stops sensitivity is different, then the level 7 stops - of which therefore comes with 5dII formulation to sx1-video-black building.

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Antwort von iasi:

"B. DeKid" wrote: ISO Bzgl the EOS 5D MKII will be here in the current professional photos of a beginning test the color s.ISO 800 spoken thus, the more the camera studio photographers to talk.

MfG

B. DeKid

I think a hack Firmewear for Powershot rather than umbedingt for the 5D.


So here they certify the 5dII excellent low-light capabilities
http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/eng/DxOMark-Sensor

and what I've seen so far, was impressive

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Here, in order to test gings synonymous photos and the comparative question "Whether it is the new heir to the throne is" (This is currently the latest Eos 1er Series)

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LowLight the 5D is only because the change in diameter optics and better results than the Powershot interview.
That should probably synonymous quite logical.

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About the filming was done in the test is not really speaking - is more a synonymous (as the name says "Professional Photo") Still Image Magazine.

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Stability, you have only s.der 5D with L IS lenses. I believe in the stability of Optics eh 'nen bissel more stable than in the Cam.
Although actually synonymous only with moving pictures comes to coverage (eg sports photography)

But from the "hand" on film, I think anyway for relatively video DSLR.

MfG

B. DeKid

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Antwort von meawk:

"iasi" wrote: Incidentally:

the nikon stores the motion-720p in jpg format, which is less effective as h.264 ... and this is synonymous nor the data rate of the D90 low ... Unfortunately, that speaks against the video quality of the D90 compared to 5dII ...

and last but not least:
where canon via firmware update (or someone using firmware hack) the disadvantages of 5dII about the manual belcihtungseinstellung fix it, it is unlikely nikon 1080p from the camera electronics can herauskitzeln (this extends the processing power simply do not).


Real-time editing, etc., are therefore but the Nikon synonymous with no problem, in contrast to the 5D and good Qualiliefert it all: http://www.vimeo.com/2522167

And with the 1080p via Firmewareupdate for the Nikon, since you do not be so sure - there have already heard something else (is not the problem, the sensor goes out to all).

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Antwort von iasi:

"meawk" wrote:
Real-time editing, etc., are therefore but the Nikon synonymous with no problem, in contrast to the 5D and good Qualiliefert it all: http://www.vimeo.com/2522167

And with the 1080p via Firmewareupdate for the Nikon, since you do not be so sure - there have already heard something else (is not the problem, the sensor goes out to all).


true - the 720p in the motion-jpg require far less computing power as the h.264 in 1080p ... since then it just needs a proper multi-core computing (the more cores the better)

other hand, the D90 is not in a position to take the high data rates the 1080p requires wegzuspeichern - most newer sensors can be up to 60fps, but want the amount of data processed and synonymous to the memory card written.

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Antwort von meawk:

[quote = "iasi"] "meawk" wrote:

other hand, the D90 is not in a position to take the high data rates the 1080p requires wegzuspeichern - most newer sensors can be up to 60fps, but want the amount of data processed and synonymous to the memory card written.


such as the kommste drauf? The D90 could loose the 1080p 30fps as the 5D II is synonymous process, the SX1 IS kanns yes synonymous - even with a much smaller and the sensor is fixed with the processing and the write to the memory card (I've even gestaunt).

For me, the real question, because in the obs D90 necessarily have to be 1080p - only it should not Mjpeg, but synonymous *. mov (h.264) or so. The 720p is really good enough - I think at least. And because of the further processing anyway, although I have no further problems the system had, my problem is currently the 1080p output so synonymous in style, as I please. Real-time editing, etc. is super with Vegas, but the output? Since I currently werkel around: If the Picture is the best I have no sound, I sound runs the Picture not so OK, I'm Beginners with Vegas - maybe I get a yes out someday.

meawk

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Antwort von tillbaer:

Hello, all together,
So now I've synonymous times ne question about 60Hz:
Is it without any major problems such as bucking possible, the material of the 5DmkII or SX1IS a 50Hz compliant material to get it so I then BluRay and LCD TV in this great quality can watch?
Fine evening - greeting - Til.

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Antwort von iasi:

"meawk" wrote:

such as the kommste drauf? The D90 could loose the 1080p 30fps as the 5D II is synonymous process, the SX1 IS kanns yes synonymous - even with a much smaller and the sensor is fixed with the processing and the write to the memory card (I've even gestaunt).



sx1 probably has the same processor as the 5dII, but creates less than half s.daatenrate how 5dII.
it has nothing to do with the sensor to be done - synonymous the sensor of the Panasonic Lumix DMC-G1 can zb 60fps - only the camera electronics can not do so.
The data rates at 1080p in motion-jpg would be so high that they are synonymous to 5dII could not wegspeichern - the D90 is designed to lower data rate. nevertheless, the 5dII at 21mpixel 3.9 fps wegschaufeln, while the D90 with 12.3 megapixel images to do.

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Antwort von meawk:

"iasi" wrote:
The data rates at 1080p in motion-jpg would be so high that they are synonymous to 5dII could not wegspeichern - the D90 is designed to lower data rate. nevertheless, the 5dII at 21mpixel 3.9 fps wegschaufeln, while the D90 with 12.3 megapixel images to do.


Yes, but that's your mistake - sorry. Who says that the D90 at Mjpeg must remain? Firmewareupdate towards h.264 but should not be a problem, because if Nikon wants - denk ich mal.

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Antwort von partylogger:

Hi, how many minutes of film to go for a 32 GB memory card in 1080/30p?

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Antwort von iasi:

"party logger" wrote: Hi, how many minutes of film to go for a 32 GB memory card in 1080/30p?

12 min at 4gb
So 8x 12min to 32GB

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Antwort von iasi:

[quote = "meawk"] [
yes, but that's your mistake - sorry. Who says that the D90 must remain in MJPEG? firmewareupdate towards h.264 but should not be a problem, because if nikon wants - denk ich mal. [/ quote]

now - h.264 needs more computing power - synonymous with the code.

but as always synonymous - there would be a real premiere, nikon if such a restrictive firmware update would provide ...
others - like casio - can not synonymous times only the smallest customers in an update would be taken into account (if at all times because one comes).
canon seems synonymous unwilling, the biggest limitation of 5dII to solve: the lack blendeneeinstellung in video mode

the other is synonymous nikon so not such a disposable product producers such as casio

but it is more likely to expect that the nikon 1080p in a logical model after sufficient

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Antwort von Zizi:

What exactly is the codec of the 5D?
H264in a MOV container, or how should we understand?
Is this then the same process as the HF100 AVCHD or is the problem again?
And can have a focus on what they say as performs?
So I focus my video .. because it can keep pace with the HF100?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

@ Iasi

But you already know the updates Firmwear not "just so" and you typed are then readily brings to the market, right?

So of warranty and product testing phases, etc. have you ever heard or what?

MfG
B. DeKid

@ Zizi

Probably depends on the sharpness of the lens used / object.
Well synonymous of - who are the focus moves - in the case of manual focusing.

Believers with the HF100 or HV30 you can only compare.

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Antwort von Zizi:

I think now with an affordable objective druchschnitts ala ¬ 1000 mark!
I can probably not imagine when 2mio. Pixels (1920x1080)
the sharpness differences between the lenses used to be insanely great?
In a HF100 is synonymous only 100 ¬ Lens indoors and she is the strongest s.Markt Cam!
We talk of 20mio jan icht pixel photos!

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Antwort von iasi:

"B. DeKid" wrote: @ Iasi

But you already know the updates Firmwear not "just so" and you typed are then readily brings to the market, right?

So of warranty and product testing phases, etc. have you ever heard or what?



oh well - for a variety of Canon cameras, there is a hack http://chdk.wikia.com/wiki/CHDK - and allows all sorts of settings to a canon otherwise denied.

one can only hope that similar synonymous soon for 5dII to have his will.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Jup clear - but how you say it themselves already are "hacks" to say no guarantee of Canon (or other companies)

Manufacturer company for it is always very difficult to customer wishes what updates are concerned - because this is not just a short program but is synonymous with testing phases and consequent costs.

MfG

B. DeKid

PS. Yes a hack will come to you as safely Musste times ;-) IRC groups by browsing ;-) But will probably only be in the next few months as far as his.

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Antwort von iasi:

"B. DeKid" wrote: J
Manufacturer company for it is always very difficult to customer wishes what updates are concerned - because this is not just a short program but is synonymous with testing phases and consequent costs.


unfortunately true - better the customer wish a successor model reinprogramieren ... a few visual changes s.gehäuse and perhaps even a few newer parts and already has the mark III ...

The hack relies on the firmware on - and will start at each of the memory card loaded - wonder, then, with what justification canon here actually wants to restrict the guarantee (keyword: burden of proof) ...

and yet something to programieraufwand:
zb caasio faces so not even in the situation, of how many users requested, the data at the 720p resolution of their ex-f1 should be - this is not even half as high as in the 1080i resolution - not even such a simple parameter change is done for the customer, the Knipps already bought and paid for.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"iasi" wrote:

The hack relies on the firmware on - and will start at each of the memory card loaded - wonder, then, with what justification canon here actually wants to restrict the guarantee (keyword: burden of proof) ...

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Yes, but can you imagine how many "lines" there's the memory card with your camera to send to service ;-)

So with Firmewear updates NEN bissel always be careful ;-)

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello Slashcam,

finally I have the camera times 1 day for me had.

Unfortunately, not too many Full-optics since, so I have the simple (but popular) 50 mm F 1.8 and the 70-200 f 4 L tested.

In a now highly esteemed Optics Company - Tokina - unfortunately there are not many lenses for Vollformatsensoren - a shame - there are strong light / affordable / nice wide-angle optics.

Much has been written, I still hold out my experiences.

A purely manual aperture, shutter a manual or a manual pure gain does not exist.

As a precaution must be called prior to display for Shutter, Aperture and Gain in video mode, since they display according to Canon just for the photo mode is used (you can during the photo shoot video).

It is basically blind (exact figures for shutter, aperture or gain)

The distance can be as usual manual s.der Optics regulate.

Per AF Messfeldwähltaste can be a 5x or 10-fold magnification of the image to better use manual focus.

The Quick AF mode, manual sharp synonymous must be made only in live mode or in the Live Face Detection mode, there is a sharpness adjustment assistance.

There, by AF On button (if it were not reprogrammed) typed, whereupon the camera to the object in focus what was square - focussiert. This may take a few seconds.

The sharpness is tracking in video mode (servo AL), therefore we see only once and must be sharp at other distance again the AF ON button and hold (again for 1-3 sec). There is, in my opinion with the manual distance setting s.Lens better served.

I've synonymous 14 min s.Stück filmed, the 12 minutes are just an indicative time.
One second film has about 4-5 MB. Therefore, a CF card with Class 6 Obligation!

A manual white balance can be made exactly like the well-known defaults. The "color temperature" is designed to profit liable. There may be film of 2500 - 10000 Kelvin in 100 steps, the color set - looks great.

Although in the video mode, many functions are locked, you can adjust some things. These include for example, "Sharpness", contrast, color saturation and hue.

Except in the creative and Full Auto mode may be in the film an exposure correction to be made by change in the individual function CF NI - 1 exposure synonymous in 1 / 3 steps.

With the asterisk key allowed the exposure to a specific scene of "frozen" are, so we can continue to swirl, and the camera remains with the erstgewählten aperture setting. Thus one can save wild Exposure pumps.

If the base switch to CA (Creative program) is running, there may be setup at the "background" between 5 positions between blurred and sharp line, which is synonymous with "exposure" lighten or darken in 5 controls. Thus can the Camera in a certain automatic aperture and shutter setting force.

Two exposure optimisers are synonymous in the video mode used, as would zb

The Tonwertpriorität "Improves the sharpness of detail in bright areas. The dynamic range is from the default value of 18% gray levels in bright extended. The gradation between the grays and the light is soft"

or Auto Lighting Optimizer


I would be synonymous of how many users here recommended lenses with manual aperture ring rates, since the camera in video mode, in good light the Aperture aufmacht beautiful - so is almost any depth blur difficult, especially when used with smaller focal lengths.

Graufilter aperture can not help but ring optics.

For weak light & indoor shots are not necessarily the manual aperture ring optics necessary, as the camera often in auto iris remains open - there you can easily play with the Effect and gets a good Bokeh with telelastigen particular focus, such as my 70-200 L.

I think it's still a lot of air to the top for Canon, but with weak light we see now a huge potential. As is synonymous combined 50mm F 1.8 and 5 D MK II for nearly 2400 ¬ already well ahead.
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Antwort von iasi:

"Jan" wrote:
For weak light & indoor shots are not necessarily the manual aperture ring optics necessary, as the camera often in auto iris remains open - there you can easily play with the Effect and gets a good Bokeh with telelastigen particular focus, such as my 70-200 L.


dear goodness - imagine before with a light-sensitive strong objectively and to rotate the camera to hide tears constantly full on - apart from the fact that dim light of the picture quality is good, no influence on the depth to have is sch ... at F1.4, the focus in some cases are not times of the tip of the nose to the eye ...

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Antwort von Jan:

This is just the video function of the Canon, which in daylight irreversibly closes the aperture, you come to do None Aperture f 1.4, because of the camera from you at f11-22 remains. Dumm now that one of her regular Optics with an aperture ring without her Aperture can not impose.

Who Optics with no aperture ring has - it looks rather bad, except the one with "strong" ND filter dagegenhält.

In weak light, you must, willy-nilly, to work with open aperture, which is always at the movies, because you can not image how the writer simply prolong the shutter. Aperture Gain extremely close and reinforce, is often worse than with open aperture to rotate - if slightly dim synonymous with the best quality supplies.

My contribution was thought s.die users who believe without a lens with aperture ring on this camera is nothing. When daylight yes - for interior shots and weak light certainly no.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von iasi:

now ... there is generally nothing without aperture ring with the 5dII ... and that when weak light to completely control the depth of need and should refrain, I do not see it - sometimes a little more noise to a low depth of field quite preferable.

in any event, it became clear to me that alien s.eine 5dII objective by dranmachen adapter needs to be somewhat sensible film can - a great pity.

will be expensive canon 85/1.2 to film s.der 5dII hanging is really complained ... off once the camera stopped, now that's hot open folders.
but maybe he still has a macro-or shift-in koffer objectively, which is then at F2.8 still reasonable depth (and often even better abbildungssqualittät) offers.

with the aperture control is in any event, the canon shot bock.

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Antwort von meawk:

Say I do - all the time, just thought it almost None. . . now recognize it more and more synonymous "MB" - now he even advertises this. A week ago everything was still nonsense, what I've said, oh well. . .

BTW, you can get if their lucky, a Nikon Nikkor 1.2 / 55er and the appropriate adapter setback for 500 Euro (approx. Lens 400, adapter 100 euros). A 1.4 / 50 is already better - synonymous ranges from reasonable to be able to film and you can still a 1.4 / 85 to buy of Nikon. Then you're still a lot of gravel over the 1.2 / Canon 85 saves. The 1.2 / 55er can synonymous yet to buy anyway and then remains still below the price of 1.2 / 85 Canon, if you are lucky. But a lovely synonymous He Sigma 2.8 for Nikon with aperture ring (SWW), one could possibly instead of the 1.2 it will take.

Have fun shooting with the 5D II but who ne sharpness of "zero to Timbukto" wants to have, but please buy the camcorder.

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Antwort von iasi:

adapters are synonymous for pentax, contax, M42 and other manufacturers - are not at all times called for 100 ¬ ...
Ordinary old-kb objective, there are also plenty of synonymous (synonymous if they are not "digital" are).

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Antwort von meawk:

"iasi" wrote: adapters are synonymous for pentax, contax, M42 and other manufacturers - are not at all times called for 100 ¬ ...
Ordinary old-kb objective, there are also plenty of synonymous (synonymous if they are not "digital" are).


That's not - yes you want the ISO off the car, otherwise you could indeed synonymous FD Canons take. That is the point. I do not know anything about, but to my knowledge one can only with the Nikon (but did not yet others tested in this context - only on "hear say" or read in various U.S. forums).

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Antwort von iasi:

the iso-auto you can not turn off - if you hide, however, thanks to an adapted vorwählt objectively and with the ae-lock works, then the camera is no longer quite so much discretion to rumstellen

- S.der can hide the camera is nothing more spin
- The exposure time selection is pretty limited anyway

the iso-auto grips with it, finally, the star key.

richtig toll is obviously still not synonymous, but still ...

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Antwort von meawk:

"iasi" wrote: the iso-auto you can not turn off ...

So, since I already know of what I am talking about, because I with the D90 has been doing for some time. The ISO is virtually eliminated, or be tricked, this is fact. Looking for example, if one with the "process of Kholi on the manual aperture ring and goes inside the camera on-EE-turns (no more comps control) or with full manual Nikon, such as the AI MF 1.4 / 50mm, anyway no longer reacts electronics, except for the shutter, you can set for M. Ie, in any event in the D90 that you have depending on how far you open the aperture a lower ISO, so the car could be tricked ISO searched. There is nothing more with car!

And that is synonymous with the Nikon when 5dII go.

Sun - which I now synonymous for the last time somewhere - so slow you should have the savvy yes.

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Antwort von iasi:

oh well - I've synonymous of the key-pressed-objectively-off method to read ... and of the mobile-before the-objective-and-ae-lock method ...

... and I can probably synonymous by ae-lock the desired iso-value and then save the desired aperture setting ...

but unfortunately it remains an expensive trick the automatic ... and requires an objective, the manual aperture setting provides ...

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Antwort von iasi:

Incidentally, you could build quite an einstellicht that you bring the lens - then by manual hide the desired iso-value set and save - the exposure setting, you can then hide using manual settings.

synonymous to a burden, but it would have both iso / b-time as synonymous to control panel ...

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Antwort von Jan:

Nevertheless, it is better to even look at the camera to test.

But it would be of Canon not been too much to ask that at least one parameter (shutter, aperture) with a regular Optics would choose ....

Now the works raufladen not only highly Vimeo loads, the movie can not play.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Jan:

Dung, Vimeo says it works --

view, it is not ....

Who knows when from Vimeo?

VG
Jan

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Antwort von iasi:

"Jan" wrote: T
But it would be of Canon not been too much to ask that at least one parameter (shutter, aperture) with a regular Optics would choose ....

Now the works raufladen not only highly Vimeo loads, the movie can not play.

VG
Jan


oh yes - there are so great lenses for the canon - this stupid detour on nikon canon and co will hopefully get the manual aperture setting to allow - it is hardly in the interest of canon, nikon leute if the products for their 5dII purchase.

after uploading the video converted yet, which takes some time - if the video is ready, you get an email.

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Antwort von iasi:

"Jan" wrote: Dung, Vimeo says it works --



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Antwort von Jan:

Iasi Thanks!

With Youtube's only little from the original material over, synonymous when HD presents:

5 D MK II

Vimeo ist deutlich bessere Qualität, leider kann ein normaler User nur einen HD Film pro Woche hochladen, die anderen zwei sind wohl in 720x576 gewandelt....

Munich 1

At -4 ° froze from my hands, so is the sharpness of pulling in a few situations in the pants or gone out too fast. But when you consider that with about 1 / 50 or 1 / 60 has been rotated, but very strong light images. For editing and soundtrack was no time.

Is there another video portal for HD movies?

VG
Jan

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Antwort von vertov99:

"iasi" wrote: Incidentally:

PowerShot SX1 IS (HD), max. 4 GB, or 29 min 59 sec

5dII when it comes to 4 GB only on 12 min.

which corresponds to data rates of ca.18 to 38 mb / s
.


have the sx1 is angetestet - have recorded a continuous data rate of 42-43 mb / s, 4gb is sufficient for approximately 12 min. film. compression, at least with respect to differences probably no eos 5dII.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

@ Jan

With Aperture 4 is not filming in Lowlight !!!!! Hol dir doch mal ne ordinary Optics draw and then you go again. When the sun goes 1.2 on in the dark.

MB

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Antwort von Jan:

Ok, I had no light is stronger telephoto, so f 4 is so lala.

For 200 mm f 4 but ok, I wanted to hold a tele synonymous test times, and not just the fixed focal lengths. A f 1.2 or f 1.4 was synonymous not available, only the most effective with 50 top-selling f 1.8.

But you must still say, with about 1 / 50 or 1 / 60 sec at very low light very bright and low-noise recordings succeeded zb Vimeo my first video, when the sharpness synonymous pulling more or less in the pants (frozen hands) went is.

In the current Color Still Image synonymous is a test of the 5 D MK II, the magazine continues the high reinforcements Camera s.die number 1, better than the professional photographers favorite device Nikon D 3rd

VG
Jan

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

I felt rather synonymous because of the SV, not because of the noise.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

So I must here and back row, ISO, etc. because of what you can not adjust, this is not true.

In Tv mode, you can either shutter, ISO, Aperture as synonymous easily adjust synonymous with an automatic Optics. By Gefrickel the D90 has in any case not much in common.

MB

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Antwort von Jan:

Not in the video mode (ie the live image), then Shutter, Aperture and Gain locked synonymous with the program Shutter priority (TV). Then s.allen three elections rumgedreht wheels - locked.

I've got in each switch setting is trying to change values, an exposure correction goes on TV, AV, M and P (if I have it right germerkt) in CA and Full Auto is synonymous the correction is not possible.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

So for me there is nothing blocked. I can easily change all the parameters. The only thing with an automatic fail Optics is a SV when limits are light, but then that's been synonymous. Everything else goes.

MB

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Antwort von kuebler:

"Marc ball home" wrote: So for me there is nothing blocked. I can easily change all the parameters. The only thing with an automatic fail Optics is a SV when limits are light, but then that's been synonymous. Everything else goes.

MB

I guess times that this is a misunderstanding:

If you LiveView switches, then "knows" the Camera still not sure if you then press the shutter, ie a Still Image recording, or whether the Set button, ie a video recording.

In this mode has not yet been determined can the Camera via the change wheel of parameters, then for a still image recording synonymous exactly would be so effective.

If you instead, but the set button, a video, then apply only the automatic parameter. I think at least, after I at times I've tried.

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Antwort von Joerg640_2:

"Marc ball home" wrote: So I must here and back row, ISO, etc. because of what you can not adjust, this is not true.

In Tv mode, you can either shutter, ISO, Aperture as synonymous easily adjust synonymous with an automatic Optics. By Gefrickel the D90 has in any case not much in common.

MB


hi marc,

have just read with pleasure, but synonymous surprising read, s.deiner
ll mark is iso in Tv mode, shutter and manual aperture synonymous pretend
- Then there would have been the case with the manual nikon optics done so - and I myself have stood there with head and ears wiggle probiert my mark
ll do not want at all exposure situations, a code of hide or shutters or the iso value, impossible in video mode but my camera has, under certain exposure conditions 3 "favorite hide" it constant and nothing in between! always 3 hide (test with canon 24 - 70 2.8 L optik) namely 2.8 5.6 16, if
I want to change this I attach a short layouted lighter or darker area and "forcing" the camera into a different panel, go back with the camera back and the "new" hide in all situations is determined that the automatic exposure control worked next to unless I store the value überd AE exposure control button to run but then only on iso - and might shutter. either it is a.
an operational error on my part that the camera manual does not fade or time code in video mode permits? or canon supplies still cameras are not really ill with different "software component" from? do you think this is possible? my canon Repair (Workshop) says they could also "still" does not express, but there is already software updates for this camera. many grüsse jörg

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Antwort von kuebler:

"Joerg640_2" wrote: my canon Repair (Workshop) says they could also "still" does not express, but there is already software updates for this camera. many grüsse jörg
This is probably quite simply the "Black Dot" Firmwareupdsate 1:07

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Antwort von Jan:

I have no idea what you can because everything is set, a manual aperture could be in the TV program has never been set, so does the program at all! SLRs since forever synonymous "Auto Aperture", which meets on Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus etc.

The program was always intended to vorzuwählen the shutter and the aperture will always be! car of the camera managed - depending on the lighting situation. For aperture choice (ie, the automatic locking program since AV)

In the non-live image mode of the 5 D MK II, you can at the Camera, the ISO (gain) and the shutter speed.

When Live View is the top Bedienrad for the election of the shutter is locked.
The video function can only be used in live image mode.

It is only the exposure compensation can choose - the big dial on the back - there is, depending on the situation, the shutter speed, aperture or gain slightly delayed, but it is over or underexposed - so no correct exposure.

I would like to emphasize that the shutter, aperture and gain values in live image mode is not! for the video function apply which can be found in the manual on Page 125 to read.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Joerg640_2:

"Jan" wrote: I have no idea what you can because everything is set, a manual aperture could be in the TV program has never been set, so does the program at all! SLRs since forever synonymous "Auto Aperture", which meets on Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Sony, Olympus etc.

The program was always intended to vorzuwählen the shutter and the aperture will always be! car of the camera managed - depending on the lighting situation. For aperture choice (ie, the automatic locking program since AV)

In the non-live image mode of the 5 D MK II, you can at the Camera, the ISO (gain) and the shutter speed.

When Live View is the top Bedienrad for the election of the shutter is locked.
The video function can only be used in live image mode.

It is only the exposure compensation can choose - the big dial on the back - there is, depending on the situation, the shutter speed, aperture or gain slightly delayed, but it is over or underexposed - so no correct exposure.

I would like to emphasize that the shutter, aperture and gain values in live image mode is not! for the video function apply which can be found in the manual on Page 125 to read.

VG
Jan


I think the "confusion" in sachen exposure control in the mark ll is a result that when the camera
in the menu: standbilder & submenu in the movie: BELICHTUNGSSIMULATION (from which may be synonymous filmed!) the parameters iso, shutter and aperture synonymous
in Tv or Av and M mode can be adjusted and not blocked
As in the menu: "MOVIE AD". unfortunately, is only just at the
pressing the buttons on the film now "total" active interference and any possible
missing - daaber synonymous the displayed values in the menu MOVIE VIEWING
only for a possible standbild and are not for the moment
Recorded video is questionable what the camera viewpoint at all, iso, shutter and aperture together constitute? as already mentioned, I am an info event of the priority of a wide-open aperture as expected, but after some tests, the camera, but this apparently does not always work? or maybe ...... Tomorrow I call directly at times in canon, then hopefully I will be into something smarter GREETINGS FORUM

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

So I should be very deceiving me, if the Aperture should not be selected, but I watch again after, the Cam hab grad not here. The LCD display must be to provide exposure simulation, otherwise nothing. When you press the Recording turns the lighting in the automatic back, if you are not within two seconds "*" expresses! In manual Aperture turns not back, but all values remain.

What I noticed is that the shutter can only respond as far as the picture is not overexposed. In blazing sunshine at ISO 100 and aperture 8, the shutter responded s.etwa only 1 / 250, not including.

MB

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Antwort von tommyb:

"Marc ball home" wrote: The LCD display must be to provide exposure simulation
Excuse me Mr. Ballhaus, but it must be liquid crystal display or LCD read. If you are Vollprofi yet know.

MfG

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Antwort von kuebler:

"Marc ball home" wrote: When you press the Recording turns the lighting in the automatic back, if you are not within two seconds "*" expresses! In manual Aperture turns not back, but all values remain.
MB

Just tried again: does it for me.

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Antwort von Joerg640_2:

"Marc ball home" wrote: So I should be very deceiving me, if the Aperture should not be selected, but I watch again after, the Cam hab grad not here. The LCD display must be to provide exposure simulation, otherwise nothing. When you press the Recording turns the lighting in the automatic back, if you are not within two seconds "*" expresses! In manual Aperture turns not back, but all values remain.

What I noticed is that the shutter can only respond as far as the picture is not overexposed. In blazing sunshine at ISO 100 and aperture 8, the shutter responded s.etwa only 1 / 250, not including.

MB


hallo marc've just try again a night with my camera started operating at 8 hide very close s.einer lamp (ie sufficient
iso sufficient scope for the automatic are different fade
überhaupt "accept") immediately pressed the messspeicher then hide 2.8 selected synonymous immediately pressed the memory, the result, unfortunately, Disappointments, no differences regarding the control of tiefenschärfe in the
movie file - think my camera is just does what she wants - tomorrow then a more reasonable test times in daylight and a call for canon perhaps we will know more

gruss jörg

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"tommyb" wrote: Excuse me Mr. Ballhaus, but it must be liquid crystal display or LCD read. If you are Vollprofi yet know.

MfG


Reporting yet again, if you have something really constructive to contribute, you are happy because we are all very determined. You're not a web-stalker? In fact, I have other errors and gaps in knowledge, not that I have yet to be fatal and that is why you are developing for Klette.

"Kuebler" wrote:
Just tried again: does it for me.


With me is the 100% the case. Completely weird number. Do you have a manual or an automatic lens on it?

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Antwort von kuebler:

"Marc ball home" wrote:
With me is the 100% the case. Completely weird number. Do you have a manual or an automatic lens on it?

24-105/4

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Joerg640_2" wrote:
hallo marc've just try again a night with my camera started operating at 8 hide very close s.einer lamp (ie sufficient
iso sufficient scope for the automatic are different fade
überhaupt "accept") immediately pressed the messspeicher then hide 2.8 selected synonymous immediately pressed the memory, the result, unfortunately, Disappointments, no differences regarding the control of tiefenschärfe in the
movie file - think my camera is just does what she wants - tomorrow then a more reasonable test times in daylight and a call for canon perhaps we will know more

gruss jörg


This phenomenon, I had exactly 1x, namely blazing sun and snow at ISO 100, ie too much light. Hardly on the button is pressed, any uncertainty was gone, so has hooked into the aperture automatic, automatic course in Optics. Otherwise, never happens again.

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Antwort von meawk:

Ho, Ho, Ho - total confusion with regard to "what can we influence manual, etc." in the 5D II That we still have a long durchgekaut: Without the adapter and Nikon lenses with manual aperture ring, MF's possible - is even better than the AF's - but it's not next. And the "MB" - so what can want everything, na ja?

That is an indictment of Canon, we were the buyer, the manual adjustment of aperture, shutter and ISO in the video mode using the software are prohibited "and it is so cumbersome" process "request / service needs.

Hello, Canon - wan, a Firmewareupdate, which ended this crap? Each of you should write to Canon and possibly should be a kind of citizens' initiative was launched, so that eventually proper work. For 2500 euros for the body should be synonymous Video Cam manual mode can operate. Where is the problem?

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

@ meawk

It must, of course but you notice that I have 2 weeks each ignore your posts because you simply extreme me the pointer to go. If you have a 5D and have bought me something with a real film convinced, or at least technically demonstrable results, then you may like to distribute advice synonymous. But your guess along with your amateur existence here really helps absolutely nobody.

It may be that you are a pensioner is boring, and I even believe you that you gutmeinst, but it has no sense. There are people who use these forums to target information. Do you think anyone uses it, now is not active in this thread depends, if he reads your posts, at least here on nothing but conjecture based on are? You nervst, quite frankly and I think at least thy poor photo dealer agrees unconditionally to me since. Semi is harmful.

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Antwort von meawk:

Hey, Hey - now he plays the insulted liver sausage and sharp shooting. I will discuss with you no longer - I just laugh when I post here so you can see. You all-rounder? What type synonymous because such a Q.. .

You can never offend me, because you're not a heavyweight.

And this "unfinished" part buy, I am not-I'm not stupid and invest 2500 euros in a body, in the video mode is a clear Mogelpackung. Perhaps the successor model, if we can intervene manual and all the childhood diseases are eliminated. Currently, the video camera in "rausgeworfenes money." Although all owners will be angry, but angry anyway already green and blue - more gray and black, if you dreamed about durchstöbert forums.

Did you actually look at the color views, particularly from black to gray, etc. Since säuft everything from black mercilessly, absolutely no nuances - do so 99 euros Knipsen better.

Tschööööööööö!

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Antwort von Jan:

Ok, true, in the private function, I think I (how creative linguistics) are not lighting simulation set, I must try again.

Well, unfortunately I have no manual Canon optics ....

Mid-December there was a firmware update for the 5 D MK II, but our problems were not improved:



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Antwort von kuebler:

"Jan" wrote: As well really helps make printing and pray.
I would wish me yes synonymous, but as a realist, I say: no, it will not help.
Quote: Where is the problem because, Shutter, Aperture and gain freedom to choose, exposure memory and many White comparisons are already possible?
Of course were the technical, but Canon marketingmässig would be extremely stupid to do that. And Canon may perhaps everything possible, but certainly not stupid.

With some video castrated 5D2 function in the market, they have successfully angetestet and seem to really good response.

Now they know what they can and must do: in the 1DsMkIV (if they so wish) will obviously synonymous video type, but strongly supported. With this camera, they speak to the pros anyway, for a professional tool synonymous according to pay, at least, teeth grinding. And because of the good AF and the high fps not a particularly great Differentiator for about 50% cheaper 5D2, they can with the video function is a gap close reasoning.

I do now believe that Marc Ballhaus is somehow mistaken.

A pity, but it is truly the life ;-)

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Antwort von Uwe:

"Kuebler" wrote: ...
I do now believe that Marc Ballhaus is somehow mistaken.
...


Of course, the boy was mistaken. The tingelt with all sorts of different names by various forums with this idiocy. There are hacker initiatives for the 5DII - see here:
http://canonhack.com/
But of course they are all totally stupid and have not really savvy, where's it's at - only the clever ball house (in this forum). Who is next on his "wisdom" letting wants => have fun pressing buttons ...

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"Kuebler" wrote: .....

Now they know what they can and must do: in the 1DsMkIV (if they so wish) will obviously synonymous video give .....


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Believe the master himself but probably not, huh?!

Have you noticed the times in the photo forums and specialized magazines, no one is really for the video function of the DSLR Cams interested?

So I would be very surprised if the ToP model synonymous video bekämm. I think there's more times 30 - 35 MP Resolutionangesagt.

MfG
B. DeKid

EDIT:

Come tell me, I rather that Canon is now trying its XH and XL models XDCAM fit and will make synonymous with flash memory on the recording medium train burst.
Before the top model of your device for all-rounders can be reduced.

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Antwort von kuebler:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Believe the master himself but probably not, huh?!

Well, guess I had my reasons, but of course it is still speculative.

Regardless of which we here in the forum not a little cultivated communicate?

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

That was not meant bös,
But I do think it is very unlikely that the video function in DSLR cameras in the top model can be found / is spreading. These are professional cameras and no Swiss army knife.

Not that the 5D series Like professional, but it is and remains the Semi Pro Series.

So I can only reiterate the point I hope remains DSLR Still Image and video camera remains.

But I think the Bridge cameras and compact cameras in the video mode will continue to expand as it synonymous to a legitimate market. Say the user wants to use it is synonymous.

But in the professional league will probably give the few people with a film 1er synonymous want.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

So, now I have checked everything again and I can confirm everything said, but only when the aperture area code, there is a restriction. Should this restriction (point 6 / 7) have led to confusion, I will be very happy to apologize.

************************************************** ********
PROCEDURE FOR AUTOMATED OPTICS
************************************************** ********

1. User preset 1, with Sharpness 0, Contrast -4, colors -4, color 0. These settings result in a neutral picture in the black is not immediately absäuft and the highest dynamic range offers

2. LCD movie mode + breastfeeding as exposure simulation

3. Tv mode

4. Shutter to 1 / 60 (equivalent to 180 degree shutter angle = film camera)

5. Camera on the darkest film of the body to establish, and ISO so that the true exposure

6. button "*" for setting the exposure, now appears next to the shutter, the aperture is displayed.

7. Aperture Setting

8. "SET" button to start recording immediately afterwards

9. the button "*" button.

10. During the recording remains the aperture with the thumb wheel to + / - 2 stops correctable

The already mentioned limitation concerns Step 6 / 7, because we need the exposure with "*" to freeze the Aperture to be able to adjust. Sorry again!

************************************************** ********
PROCEED IN OPTICS WITH MANUAL FADER
************************************************** ********

1-4 (as above)

5. Aperture s.Blendenring of Optics Set

6. ISO press and as far down until the exposure between the darker and lighter body is no longer pumping.

7. button "*" key

8. With the thumb wheel to the ISO if necessary to correct

9. "SET" button to start recording

10. During the recording, the ISO (I hope not the shutter) with the thumb wheel to + / -2 Apertures correctable

How does that work, and I think quite stress free. Of course no comparison to a manual camera, but it is, delivers the results in no relation to the price of the camera stand, and this is the most important.

My firmware version is 1.0.6, incidentally
And now the fun part:

"Uwe" wrote: Of course, the boy was mistaken. The tingelt with all sorts of different names by various forums with this idiocy. There are hacker initiatives for the 5DII - see here:
http://canonhack.com/


Well there is two weeks since an account, and it has a level of less than 200 USD. If you now 1 and 1 together could include what you apparently do not succeed, you have to at least rudimentary probably guess what it could mean ...

"Uwe" wrote: (...) But of course all are totally stupid and have not really savvy, where's it's at - only the clever ball house (in this forum). Who is next on his "wisdom" letting wants => have fun pressing buttons ...

I think you should tone your times urgent rethink. As you so often times strikingly negative, will help you perhaps the next:

http://www.amazon.de/neue-gro%C3%9Fe-Knigge-Benehmen-Umgangsformen/dp/3817457464/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1231787316&sr=8-2

;)

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Antwort von kuebler:

"B. DeKid" wrote: That was not meant bös,
Accepted.
Quote: ...
But in the professional league will probably give the few people with a film 1er synonymous want.

MfG
B. DeKid

As I said, is speculative, but I would bet dagegenhalten and that 1D and 1Ds successor qualified HD video function get.

Wait and see, just from ;-)

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Antwort von Joerg640_2:

To my curiosity to the
Topic: "What kind of surgery offers the possibility of automatic real"
but still halfway to satisfy and the question: "If there are no possibilities exist, how does the automatic exposure situations in which" to answer when I called Canon Germany and called me a call back within the next 48 hours pledged. Even today I have again tested ie constant light situation and Tripod (by the picture does not change)
and am now "unfortunately" 99% sure that any impact on the Aperture
synonymous on the mode Belichtungssimuation is not possible, Aperture occlusion (or shutter) and ISO only concern during the
relevant video recordings (of me for comparison purposes) still closed, they have the appropriate synonymous
Depth at different apertures and corresponding ISO values (yes it is in the file information read) The video files of different test to test only marginally in the depth of focus - no preference s.Parametern what I've given up and are on the
exposure is not right with the "still images" is not vergeichbar ie
the video mode leads a life of its own, displayed aperture values etc are negligible and affect only the
Still Image! If still s.and
when the impression is created here is "what" it might influence
fluke rather be? ! As I said my own opinion and "To err is human" I myself am not an engineer, not as experienced videographers how other forum users here, but since about 20 years
professionally active as a photographer and not in this photo studio. Now I am very
curious about the recall of Canon, news from Canon, I will then place into the Forum

Viele Grüsse Jörg

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Antwort von Chezus:

Do not know whether this was mentioned earlier: hab photographer with a friendly talk to me of the enormous heat generated by the Camera told (so synonymous with the D90)

Can you confirm that? Not that the camera with prolonged use of Tripod melts

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Antwort von Jan:

I can not really confirm it, well in my outdoor shots, it was -4 ° - since it was the camera tend not possible "hot marked".

In a long term test, so pointless daheim 4 GB card vollfilmen, has ended after 14 minutes - but I did not get the impression that the camera much more heat than usual has a good battery consumption but there has been already noticed.

Do me now with good exposure simulation company.

My computer is too limp, the film has someone with an editing program to check what (s) Aperture, Shutter and Gain for the Camera reinwirft changes? But without reason, in the Canon manual (Page 125 middle) does not say very clearly that the values of shutter, aperture and gain on the LCD in the video just for photos are possible.

I have now my first video at Vimeo to a deleted, since it only with 720x576 uploaded. Here is an HD video test.



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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Jan" wrote: But without reason, in the Canon manual (Page 125 middle) does not say very clearly that the values of shutter, aperture and gain on the LCD in the video just for photos are possible.

What is younger, the firmware or the manual? Because I would not give it, besides, my goodness, how ignorant you have to be? I do it all the time and it works, however slowly, I wonder if I take the trouble not just save, because that somehow seems to me pointless.

In addition, ISO and gain two pairs of shoes. ISO determines the Emfpindlichkeit a movie (with digital cameras it in the chip equivalent), which stretches from the gain chip data obtained purely mathematically before compression to a greater brightness range and does not s.der sensitivity.

In addition to your clip:

1. Aperture 4 in the dark is sometimes the wrong approach because the ISO is too high and it is never bright enough.

2. Schärfezug with Zoom is a cinematic Faux Pas

3. Exposure is automatic, it is simply synonymous completely false

4. Set out the preset values correctly, with you I see a significant increase in contrast potter, Farbanhebung well, so perhaps making photos, but no movies.

MB

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Marc ball home" wrote: ... In addition, ISO and gain two pairs of shoes. ISO determines the Emfpindlichkeit a movie (with digital cameras it in the chip equivalent), which stretches from the gain chip data obtained purely mathematically before compression to a greater brightness range and does not alter the sensitivity s.der ...
In practice runs's quite to the same thing: The increase of the ISO value s.einer digital camera causes nothing other than an electronic amplification of the signal from the sensor - that is exactly what the video is known as a gain. If you s.der DSLR, for example, of 100 ISO (which is correct, however, would mean ASA) go to 200 ISO, then this corresponds to the 3dB gain a camcorder. The next is increased / strengthened, the more visible is the noise - regardless of whether the dial is "ISO" or "Gain" means.

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Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Marc ball home" wrote: ... In addition, ISO and gain two pairs of shoes. ISO determines the Emfpindlichkeit a movie (with digital cameras it in the chip equivalent), which stretches from the gain chip data obtained purely mathematically before compression to a greater brightness range and does not alter the sensitivity s.der ...
In practice runs's quite to the same thing: The increase of the ISO value s.einer digital camera causes nothing other than an electronic amplification of the signal from the sensor - that is exactly what the video is known as a gain. If you s.der DSLR, for example, of 100 ISO (which is correct, however, would mean ASA) go to 200 ISO, then this corresponds to the 3dB gain a camcorder. The next is increased / strengthened, the more visible is the noise - regardless of whether the dial is "ISO" or "Gain" means.


That's true m. W. does not. ISO affects the scanning yourself, gain only to the already sampled signal. Even if you gain 72 dB would give it, so what remains the pre-black (RGB 0,0,0) was still black, while the increase of the ISO means that the depths and forth clearly what previously was black, suddenly differnzierte are gray.

The theory times the outside provides a vorgelassen Picture taken with higher ISO to worlds different than a picture with higher gain. Here one sees the synonymous but quite clearly:

http://www.vimeo.com/2764864

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Marc ball home" wrote: ... That's true m. W. does not. ISO affects the scanning yourself, gain only to the already sampled signal provides for a ... Picture taken with higher ISO to worlds different than a picture with higher gain. Here one sees the synonymous but quite clearly ...
If you with this legal theory would have (which I certainly do not want to exclude) and the two different control Ergebnsse entail, then begs me the question: Why is there still no image or video, you s.der both values can be set separately ? At least I have not met. The linked video, I honestly do not, as proof of this theory, because that different cameras behave differently, has many causes (sensor size, pixel size, signal processing, etc.).
Even exactly the same approach (for example, increase the ISO value of 200 to 1600) brings in various DSLR completely different picture results without synonymous only one gain switch is present. A meaningful test should be independent but the change of ISO and gain in the same camera enable the triggers and lack of availability of such a camera difficulties. Or knows someone has a camera, s.der the two separate values to pick from?

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Antwort von Axel:

"Marc ball home" wrote: The theory times the outside provides a vorgelassen Picture taken with higher ISO to worlds different than a picture with higher gain. Here one sees the synonymous but quite clearly:

http://www.vimeo.com/2764864


Which mean ASA value camcorder without amplification, that corresponds to 0 dB, can be established. Higher Gainwerte are not only in sensitivity and resolution to the loss of higher ISO levels in physical film, but synonymous in the inferior gradation (low sensitivity: Faber-Set 300 with crayons on photo paper, highly sensitive: Ten Wachsmalkreiden on Rauhfaser). Antique Photographs (the Pi-Ätsch offers up here) are due to the low sensitivity auto HDR (H igh D ynamic R ange), in black and white, however. On Urgroßomas white blouse you see another white potato starch Krum ...

Can see it when s.besten Comparison of recordings during the day. The EX-1 - no gain of course - differentiate the white wall is better than the Mark II with "auto ISO" or "800". Before I shock martial: Yes, I know that the Comparison with other Aperture can be completely different. I can picture in the night no difference, "the worlds' total. The intensity of the Canon, I am not in question, but of course it works synonymous sometime (later also) with signal amplification, ie gain.

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Antwort von deti:

"Marc ball home" wrote:
That's true m. W. does not. ISO affects the scanning yourself, gain only to the already sampled signal.


No, this is not exactly true: Gain and ISO always determine the amplification factor of A / D converter, the Image sensor (CCD or CMOS) are directly downstream.

Deti

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