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Frage von baro:


Hi,

First I would like to commend you all and thank you for me, because I by your posts'm a lot smarter.
I have the last 2 weeks battled through the forum, but still can not agree on a green branch in my buying decision.

summarized:

Music'm about to compose music clips and would now like to come themselves behind the camera stand. Already have movie experience only are the technical developments of the last 4 years with me gone without trace.

In principle there is for me only the following question:

tape or hard drive / chip

I have all the pros / cons compared only will I not that clever.

My reasoning is the following:

Suppose I take with the Canon HF10 to export the "AVCHD" material on the PC, I can
yes the format to a desired format and then umkonvertieren eg intersect with Premiere CS3?
Or do I need for AVCHD special software or editing program?

If I buy now have a camera, then I have the next few years so satisfied, synonymous if I "Full HD", etc. (still) do not need.
I have irgenwie afraid me with HDV and the disadvantages included abzugegeben, and later draufzukommen bad that I've made.

So for me the question whether HF10 or HV20/30.
For the latter I have only the essential differences.

Couch with my reflections, I completely wrong, or am I on the safe Page with "AVCHD"?

Thanks in advance.

Edit from Mod: I have times the title adopted. The previous text, "I do not know more next" would be more likely in a fit psychiatry forum. ;-)

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Antwort von miku:

"baro" wrote:
So for me the question whether HF10 or HV20/30.
For the latter I have only the essential differences.

While the HV20 and HV30 a very good picture quality, it is in the HF10 still unproven. As before, I would start by a decision to wait until they s.Markt available. Alternatively, take a look at the HG10 throw - Picture is almost as good as HV20/HV30.

The other decision: HDV (tape) is still slightly better than AVCHD, but the problem of drop-outs with itself, the whole series of individual images and associated sound may damage. There is no problem of current HDV editing programs to work with.

AVCHD natively process can still almost no software calculator quick and even act slowly. Therefore we converted into intermediate formats, which can then be processed better. Advantage of AVCHD is the nonlinear work without tape, is simply straightforward. Disadvantage: while at the same HDV back to tape, you must be at AVCHD themselves to worry about backups, for example on hard disks.

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Antwort von Zizi:

What I would be interested in:
The HV30 has a 1 / 2 ,7-inch CMOS
the HF10 but a 1 / 3, 2 "CMOS sensor that is larger?
that would mean the lowlight of the better cards, although the camera is half the size?
Bigger the better?
is synonymous namely before the decision HV20-30, now or later, the HF10.
For me the picture quality will pay all beaten.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Zizi" wrote: ... HV30 has a 1 / 2 ,7-Inch CMOS HF10 ... but a 1 / 3, 2 "CMOS sensor that is larger ...
Vice stimmts: A 1 / 3 ,2-inch sensor is smaller than a 1 / 2 ,7-inch sensor (one third of something is less than half of something). The Lowlightverhalten depends of several factors, but this can be simplified to say that a larger sensor - the same number of pixels - is light as a small.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von kkutte:

[quote = "baro"] Hello everybody,

If I buy now have a camera, then I have the next few years so satisfied, synonymous if I "Full HD", etc. (still) do not need.

Hello Baro
If you now do not need HD then let it sein.Bei development at the time in this corner is going on, you're definitely not the next few years to be satisfied (No matter what the camera) That was
perhaps not entirely seriously gemeint.Aber I own a HV20 for a long time and am so very zufrieden.KEINE dropouts in the recording, Great Picture, HD_files well s.Calculator edit back to the camera and play HD Blu ray s.Television without burning or rast sonstwas.Jedoch the next technology and it will not be long until I returned synonymous for other things Schiele.
until then have fun at the Superior
kkutte

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Antwort von miku:

So I want me a cam for the 800 ¬ buy.
It hätt I picture what concerns to the HV20 or 30 dentiert.
However bothers me a little the tape and the size of the picture with me and the settings the more cover.
Now I would like to know how the images of the new small HF10 / 0 be?
Are your meinung better / sharper as sony or pana cards Cams?
Worth the wait or take it to the HV30?
Is the image quality better than the HV30 at the coming AVCHD cams?

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Antwort von Chrissigorn123:

Are you of English power, you can do all this on www.camcorderinfo.com read. Since there are extensive tests on all these cameras and comparisons between them ...

So looks like there was, the HV20/30 (initially) the class with the cleanest picture.

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Antwort von miku:

Thanks .. coole seite
Gibts sowas synonymous in German?
I would like to test to see pictures as to

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