Infoseite // Canon HF100: outstanding (basic) on the soundtrack noise normal?



Frage von ioioba:


Hi,
somewhat surprised and disappointed me but has a strong background noise to the soundtrack of my new HF100 with the built-Micro.
Comparison with my SD video cameras (Panasonic SDR-S10 + miniDV Panasonic NV-GS50), it is pretty clear to hear and annoying. The noise is always there, regardless of the volume of the filmed events, in quiet situations, it is clear to hear, beside the highway of course not ;-)
I got to the net for Comparison HF100-looking videos, which were mostly filmed in noisy environments or with background music.

To you other filmmakers HF100 Question:
Is this "normal" and you have to live with, or is this a defect?
What have your experiences with the sound? Is it synonymous with you rauschig?

orientation to how the sounds with me, here 2 links to sample MP3s. The material is not processed next, only to mp3 encoding. Recorded in a quiet environment with automatic audio control, without damping and wind filter:

children playing (not very quiet) in the living room, about 2m distance without attenuation and Wind filter
0002.mp3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=FGKGBMG4

recht leise Stimme im Wohnzimmer
0008.mp3
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=4PO5WH6R

many greetings
Joachim

Addendum:
thank you for the first feedback, here are the files for download with no wait
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1496226/0008.mp3.html
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1496251/0002.mp3.html

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Antwort von beiti:

I have the noise in practice, never noticed. But now I have your description and as an occasion to test both your files as a piece of its own synonymous with a good recording studio headphones listened - and actually quite noisy as it vigorously. From my PC speakers and synonymous s.Television the noise I had never noticed it. Seems only a very specific frequency range to cover.

It was quiet from my HF100:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1496154/hf100_rauschen.mp3.html

PS: Could you sowas will upload somewhere else? The 45 seconds waiting for Megaupload nerves ... : (

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Antwort von domain:

With Headphones times you may not listen anyway, because any noise coming super over, particularly because the high frequencies with the lowest energy quasi s.Trommelfell concerns directly.
Apart from playing the physiology, especially the psychology of our cognition often crazy. With the huge increase in expectation s.Geräte the latest generation synonymous increases the sensitivity of our sense organs (including brain), that is synonymous the exact critical Hinhorchen on things you have not noticed yet, a dramatic but now noticed ...

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Antwort von beiti:

"domain" wrote: With the huge increase in expectation s.Geräte the latest generation synonymous increases the sensitivity of our sense organs (including brain), that is synonymous the exact critical Hinhorchen on things you have not noticed yet, a dramatic but now noticed ... Did you look at the examples, notably of which I uploaded?

With expectations like you already have. With my previous Canon MVX3i (DV -) I had with built-in Microphone quite massive drive noise, and not just by Headphones, but synonymous from the television speakers clearly and hear clearly.
The HF100 has now, thanks to solid-state drive technology no more noise. Since you are first on the idea again s.Noise disturbing.

When I think back then, had actually all small recording devices, with whom I have ever had to do a certain noise. That was true for analog and digital, DAT recorders and minidisc recorder alike. To this extent, the HF100 because unfortunately no exception - however, no notable synonymous.

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Antwort von domain:

"beiti" wrote:
The HF100 has now, thanks to solid-state drive technology no more noise. Since you are first on the idea again s.Noise disturbing.

So it is, you have understood. Konrad Lorenz has been the law of decreasing stimulus threshold postulated. Automatically, it is always so much in sensitivity and in the subsequent irritability down until you find something, which has a really annoying, is synonymous for partnerships ;-))

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Antwort von ruessel:

In my opinion, the HF100 rauscht unusually high - in Comparison to the HV20/30. It has been holding something in the sound when saving cheap camera.

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Antwort von Spectro:

Hi,

ioiobas's observation, I can fully confirm.

After years of video recordings with sound, I wanted to drive a 'full solid state' Camera. Since video movies in 1 / 2009 of the excellent Audio HF11 with little noise it was (due to the lack of drive / hard drive), I decided for the HF100.

But the sound disappointed: there is a strong noise in the recordings to be heard. This is not s.der electronics. When his ear s.das camera body sets, you can hear clear permanent (fan?)-Noise (regardless of zoom or AF).

My question: Is this for HF100/11 'normal' (then I understand the test result is not good) or something with the fan (or what ever as synonymous roars) not? Anybody who has a HF100/11, when this noise does not occur?

Many greetings,

Carsten

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Antwort von deti:

Synonymous I can confirm that people who want a cheap consumer camera to buy, again and again with false scales measured.

Now let's be honest: How synonymous always come like the noise, it is neither bad nor almost disturbing. If the noise bothers you, then take an external Micro or manual turning the level down a bit.

Deti

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Antwort von Modellbahner:

If I ne shellfish think your ear, I hear the ocean roar. If I use the ear to the ground do I hear the grass grow. The camera is the electrons that are looking their way.
People remain on the carpet

Gruß Bernd

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Antwort von domain:

It is therefore not synonymous already tragic, because O is a soundtrack, where the noise noticeable in the final soundtrack anyway by noise from the canned (wind, water, people, animals, transport, etc.) as well as Music and Language added. Overall, the sound level throughout the videos averaged between -10 and 0 DB move, otherwise the listening pretty hard.
Ultimately, the Noise soundtrack of O with the other newly added tracks completely.
And a basic rule always applies: never with headphones Verton.

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