Logo Logo
/// 
Canon HG21 - bester 1080p Camcorder?

Canon HG21 - camcorder best 1080p?



Frage von paul-wall:
Dezember 2008

hallo leute,
've saved long and now isses soweit ich steh shortly before me a 1080p camcorder to buy.

've already after a short search a very clear favorites, with the synonymous gleichmal I have 2 questions, which I till in the network was not responding:

1. there are low-class 1000 - 1200 ¬ for the canon hg21 a competitor (in the category 1080p camcorder)?
2. can directly synonymous with 720 x 576 p (dvd format) list?

for me, is clearly primarily important that the camcorder records progressive, because the recordings not only synonymous but s.tv s.meinem laptop will look.



Antwort von deti:

The progressive feature is nice, but certainly should not buy his argument, if you watch the videos on a PC wants to play.
Once a display is less than the 1080 has the interlace play a minor role Effects: Many notebooks have a display with a 1280x800 and Resolutionvon it you can watch the videos directly in 1280x720p25 render. Thus, most disappear without Kammeffekte deinterlacer of all alone. That 25Bilder / s is more Jerkiness but in no event from occurring, if the synonymous in the world of YouTube and Co customary.

... and yes: The HG series is quite good, with the price / performance ratio in the HG21 is a bit awkward.

Deti



Antwort von RickyMartini:

A TFT, it is no preference as to whether the video material is interlaced or progressive. I guess with my HF100 only interlaced, since the progressive mode (too smooth) pans and fast movements to make stuttering leads.

What the play s.PC is important is the graphics card and the playback software. graphics cards with HD Dekoding provide a better picture with lower CPU load.
PowerDVD 8 Ultra is my opinion the best suited for HD.

The HG2x / HF100 / HF1x is only 1920x1080i / p on. Who wants to use SD, you must transcode the material.





Antwort von paul-wall:

First many thanks for the quick reply.
So I myself have a full hd tv and a full hd laptop.
but I wanted to of course synonymous öffters the camera people from known / verwanschaft borrow. I would think the times will not be in full hd filming want because they are neither of these techniques are familiar, yet such a technology have to play, ie None has a full hd laptop / tv.

Question number 2 was answered yes to say the unit is unfortunately only available in Full HD on.

therefore, I must ask my first order a further expand sales.

There is perhaps a good 1080p camcorder in the price category 1000 - 1080p, which is synonymous with in 576p or 576i can record?



Antwort von deti:

Quote:
So I myself have a full hd tv and a full hd laptop.

I fear only that the best consumer HD cameras now eh no Full HD is out of. Thus, one is not much difference to the format seen 720er ;-) - but, as always synonymous ...

If you 1080i50 to SD 720x576 16:9 anamorphic runterskaliert, then watching the video but just like before, only that it is with much less detail on a SD screen is displayed.

I can not imagine what it makes sense these days in SD incorporated ....

Deti



Antwort von RickyMartini:

You buy the HF100 (ca 600 ¬) and the FS100 (SD Top quality for less than 300 ¬) for your friend and you have the problem easily and cheaply solved. Moreover, each with a camcorder at the same time working, but what both sides expected to come very well.

The progressive mode is not good enough quality - do you ask of the people say the matter with something familiar, than you currently are!

Make it no more complicated than it is. ;)



Antwort von beiti:

"paul-wall" wrote:
There is perhaps a good 1080p camcorder in the price category 1000 - 1080p,
I do not know what you think of the p-formats expect. Better pictures will not get.

Proper 1080p are there in this price range anyway. Also, the HG21 produces no true 1080p, but expects only the interlace format on full order.
Nativ can play popular Television only shows 1080p/24 but not 1080p/25. The playback of 1080p/25 is always just about the detour 1080i/50 (with flickering lines, etc.).

My advice: Forget the "p" easy if you are not a really good reason for you!



Antwort von deti:

"RickyMartini" wrote:
You buy the HF100 (ca 600 ¬) and the FS100 (SD Top quality for less than 300 ¬)
...
Make it no more complicated than it is. ;)


Yep, you say it.

Deti



Antwort von RickyMartini:

"beiti" wrote:
"paul-wall" wrote:
There is perhaps a good 1080p camcorder in the price category 1000 - 1080p,
I do not know what you think of the p-formats expect. Better pictures will not get.

Proper 1080p are there in this price range anyway. Also, the HG21 produces no true 1080p, but expects only the interlace format on full order.
Nativ can play popular Television only shows 1080p/24 but not 1080p/25. The playback of 1080p/25 is always just about the detour 1080i/50 (with flickering lines, etc.).

My advice: Forget the "p" easy if you are not a really good reason for you!

Using filters in video editing program is the P-Effect synonymous easily retrofitted to use, which IMHO does quite well, depending on the nature of the film. The Canopus Video Doctor this is quite good, although I must still consider whether it with Vista and Canopus HQ überhaupt runs.



Antwort von paul-wall:

jungs - many thanks that you give me so many tips there, I am huge.

what is actually here on this post does not fit, but I still versuchs times.

What is your opinion on the best of the 576i and 1080i capable (price 1000 - 1200 ¬)?

I have very long draufhin saved, would like to make a bad buy produce, and was good for the zukungt buy. you know it.

or should I make an extra thread open?



Antwort von beiti:

"paul-wall" wrote:
What is your opinion on the best of the 576i and 1080i capable (price 1000 - 1200 ¬)?
If you seriously synonymous with SD resolution work want to come s.ehesten an HDV camcorder in question (eg Canon HV30). This is an excellent HD camcorder and is synonymous throughout classically in the DV format. The whole thing still on cassette.

Otherwise you should actually the tip of RickyMartini consider two separate camcorder you buy. The FS100 and HF100 models of Canon are the handling of her not dissimilar, so the transition should not be big.
It also has a number of advantages, two camcorders to have (loss reserve of shooting events with a fixed and a moving camera, etc.).

And another OT Tip: Make your decision not later, with whatever device your friends and relatives to whom you want to borrow the equipment, to cope better (unless the part is adequately s.den cost). Every electronic device is subject to inevitable wear and tear, and sometime does not then something more, and then nobody feels responsible and you remain seated on the repair costs.
There is nothing, a Camera "synonymous times from the hands. But why specifically a different model to choose (which then determines synonymous disadvantages), I would not recommend.
All HD camcorder apart YUV / HDMI synonymous normal video outputs, so that the videos in SD quality on normal TV sets can view it. That should be for the case of a loan transfer more than sufficient. Whether your relative / friend you are capable of the films synonymous nor s.Computer nachzubearbeiten needs now is not really your concern.



Antwort von meawk:

So, again if you so direct demand to get an answer synonymous:

I, for example, the HG21 before bought about 6 weeks and after three days returned frustrated (with the sharpness was not convinced - especially in landscape photography and synonymous in conjunction with the WW-Canon intent of the Lowlightfähigkeiten are bad, WW None exists, so to speak, is the manual focus I could not convince me of the AF was not always a help, etc.).

My dealer gave me a brand new Pana, which with the 3CCD, pressed into the hand (similar problems, especially in the AF Telephoto very badly - at least what I'm so in half an hour've tested, etc.): What convinced me of the ring for manual focus. But that alone I could not buy this move.

Habs then abandoned and just for fun so the HF 100 angetestet. This is in terms Lowlight, WW etc. synonymous not much to expect, but I had the impression that it produces the sharpest images.

If it necessarily must camcorder, I recommend the Canon HF 100 - Jo! The costs currently around 600 euros, has no FP-memory (which you need not necessarily synonymous, for the money saved can get ne nice fast 32 GB SDHC card and buy more accessories).

If the HG21/20 according to various tests - which I no longer do - the best image quality to have, then I made the practical application is not confirmed. If you absolutely, but from 1000 to 1200 euros, then even the new Pana wg. the ring in front s.Lens for manual focus setting.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

The SonySR11/12 is synonymous in 576i (MPEG2) to, but the picture in SD mode rather listless and very little light at rauschig - compared with HD material.
Currently I have the SR12 and there can thus directly compare with my HF100.

The problem with these camcorders is very complex menu navigation, so it needs some time to get well is to be found.

Especially important to Canon and Sonyist that the menu of the "Auto Slow Shutter" is disabled, otherwise it comes with very little light to be bucking a sudden, since the shutter speed to 1/25s goes high - it comes to the "Progressive Effect".

With the exception of me SR11/12 is currently no HD + SD-known model.



Antwort von paul-wall:

synonymous s.euch thank for the tips!

I ask because this is no longer quite fit the theme here, I have opened a new thread:






Antworten zu ähnlichen Fragen:
Just previewing a camcorder
Mikrofon Windschutz zu Canon HG21
Canon Eos R - 10Bit in 1080p ?!
Camcorder mit schnellem Autofokus und 60FPS 1080P
Welches Ausgabeformat für "Mischformate" 1080p/25 und 1080p/60
Welcher Festplattencamcorder? Canon HG10? Oder etwas mit 1080p? Tipp?
Frage zu 1080p/24 + 1080p/96 kombinieren
Camcorder Canon MV600i
Fragen zu Camcorder Canon MV750i
Vergleich Canon / JVC Camcorder
Canon 4K Camcorder - was können die wirklich ?
Camcorder Canon MV400 ist defekt
Suche Camcorder mit 4:2:2 wie Canon XF100
Biete tolle Prosumer Camcorder// Canon HF S100
Treiber für digitalen Camcorder Canon MVX1i
Canon XF400, XF405 und GX10 4K-Camcorder
Canon stellt XA30 und XA35 HD Camcorder vor
Canon XF705 1" 4K-Camcorder - Teil 1: Ausstattung, Bedienung und Formate
FullHD-Camcorder ohne nennenswerte Neuerungen -- Canon Legria HF G26
Canon Legria HF G40 Camcorder mit Wide DR // CES 2016
Camcorder für Firmenvideos, z.B. Canon XC10 oder Sony AX100?
Canon Legria Mini Camcorder, MP4 Videos nicht mehr abspielbar
Neue (4K-)Camcorder von Canon - XF400/405, XA11/15 und GX10
Kaufberatung - Mittelklasse Camcorder oder doch DSLR/M? Canon/Panasonic/Sony!? bis 1000€
CES: Full HD Camcorder für Einsteiger von Canon, Legria HF R68 / R66 / R60
CANON G15 macht gute Videos - Suche jetzt Camcorder mir gleicher Bildquali,

















weitere Themen:
Spezialthemen


16:9
ARD
AVCHD
AVI
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
After effects
Apple Final Cut Pro
Audio
Avid
Cam
Camcorder
Camera
Canon
Capture
Capturing
Clip
EOS
Editing
Effect
Error
Export
File
Files
Film
Final Cut
Format
Formate
HDR
Import
JVC
Layer
Light
MAGIX video deLuxe
Magix
Microphone
Monitor
Movie
PC
Panasonic
Pinnacle
Pinnacle Studio
Player
Premiere
RAM
RED
Recording
Red
Software
Sony
Sound
Studio
TV
Tape
Video
Videos