Infoseite // Canon HG21 or SonyHVR-HD1000E



Frage von darkstar86:


Hello,

I want to buy a hd camera. Now I have compared all sorts of cameras. actually, I would gladly have what in direction SonyHDR-FX1, but from her budget is not really in it (there is a cheaper alternative, comparable to that?).

needed, the camcorder (as received almost) exclusively for motorsport. is important for me to quickly zoom (that is, one fast and allows zooming out) and the s.dabei reasonably fit. As far as I could try it that is on most models to 600 ¬ enough to fall.

And to my main problems now:

is of course important for me to make recordings to shake. tripod use is however not really suitable because you schonmal must react quickly and I also often times the location change. is also a halfway decent tripod so synonymous not exactly cheap.

so I'm only ever come to the HD1000E. a shoulder camera (or just a slightly larger camcorders to be secure in the hand) holds for me would be a perfect stop. However, one has to hear not much good on camera ... on me as a layman it actually makes a very professional impression. also irritates me, the zoom ring (which anyway of'm used to dslr photography).

The Canon HG21 seems to me the best camcorders in its range to 1500 ¬ to viewfinder available (most importantly, some camcorders have liked it even better, but with no viewfinder, which is not at!), good test results in image quality, many manual settings And last but not least the unbeatable price!

However, the wide angle somewhat frugal and I think I would go and get on jedenfall synonymous nor an external micro. for a converter and the micro are coming up quickly even by 300 ¬. I am then again a little closer s.preisbereich the HD1000E off (think the accessories I should have saved myself in HD1000E).

The biggest fear I have but at the HG21 is that my recordings are too shaky (though I could really quiet have a knack). be good for something because it so graphically stabilizers? And there may be a kind of shoulder support tripod for small camcorders such as the gh21?

And lastly, the lowlight recording. I need to s.and synonymous dark times in the film. I would then work s.ehesten with the manual focus. probably not zoom and focus ((camera on the curve, manual focus, done so), I do not expect too much Jezt. but in test is usually synonymous with the HG21 as well known, the HD1000E with satisfactory ...

Here I have two cameras in the comparative views:

http://www.camcorder-test.com/camcorder-20f7f2e54590faf8ab44defcb2bfc1ea.html

the result is quite clear that, theoretically, which would be better. however, is synonymous to stop asking how we can compare the cameras. guess at a model like the one HD1000E is indeed synonymous higher standarts s.oder?

so that was a heap scribblings :-) So again Müster brief summary of what I know:

-worth the extra pay for HD1000E in any form?

can you compare the test results of slashcam directly with each other or vary with different camera standarts? (eg, the picture quality is actually better than the HG21 to the HD1000E?)

can be compared to the 10x and 12x zoom levels with each other directly, or as synonymous nor does sensor size and / or resolution is an issue than?

-who has experiences with the cameras and I can perhaps identify covert weaken?

-there are some great alternative that I have overlooked?

Many thanks schonmal!

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"darkstar86" wrote: Wide angle range ... ... the accessories I should have saved myself in HD1000E ...
In the wide angle apart, the two only slightly: If you, the HG21 is not sufficient without the converter, it will hardly do the HD1000 synonymous.

"darkstar86" wrote: ... but is synonymous to stop asking how we can compare the cameras ...
Good question, because the two models have nothing in common except that they are camcorder. One potentially very important difference - especially in terms of archiving and editing - you have not yet mentioned: The Canon takes card in AVCHD format on hard drive or SDHC cards, the Sony HDV to tape. And another thing: If you choose for the HG21, with the purchase you should not have to wait too long, as Canon has already stopped production and is no longer new hard drive camcorders on the market. On the other hand are in January, when the large manufacturers expect the presentations of the models for 2010 - maybe they will appear something that you still satisfy the better.

"darkstar86" wrote: ... you can compare the 10x and 12x zoom levels with each other directly, or as synonymous nor does sensor size and / or resolution is an issue than? ...
Compare directly with respect to the image size you can not, because they only specify the zoom factor. In order to know how much you really see in the picture, is the focal decisive. And indirectly, because here the sensor size plays a role, it has become a meaningful Comparison to indicate the focal as the comparison of the well known photograph of the small screen format. These 50mm (in fact, is 43mm), the standard optics, and what lies underneath, is considered wide angle, lies about it as a tele.

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Antwort von darkstar86:

"Bernd E." wrote: "darkstar86" wrote: Wide angle range ... ... the accessories I should have saved myself in HD1000E ...
In the wide angle apart, the two only slightly: If you, the HG21 is not sufficient without the converter, it will hardly do the HD1000 synonymous.


But then there's really no converter from her budget more in it ;-)

"Bernd E." wrote:
"darkstar86" wrote: ... you can compare the 10x and 12x zoom levels with each other directly, or as synonymous nor does sensor size and / or resolution is an issue than? ...
Compare directly with respect to the image size you can not, because they only specify the zoom factor. In order to know how much you really see in the picture, is the focal decisive. And indirectly, because here the sensor size plays a role, it has become a meaningful Comparison to indicate the focal as the comparison of the well known photograph of the small screen format. These 50mm (in fact, is 43mm), the standard optics, and what lies underneath, is considered wide angle, lies about it as a tele.


ok that is so far clear of the dslr know it's not synonymous indeed different, as indeed is indicated only in focal lengths. the value for Sony is: 40 to 400 mm, of the canon: Focal Area 4.8 - 57.6 mm and focal length accordingly KB VIDEO: is about 42.9 - 514.8 mm, which again for the specified (summaryplot is the second in the canon, including a digital zoom?)? And even then must somehow synonymous with the focal length of the sensor size will be charged right?

And thanks for the tip that the production is set! until January, but again I will be waiting, yes, I guess not immediately snapped up all remaining stocks ;-)

And for the Case with the storage: This is my relative no preference. The canon was obviously something more practical, but I used synonymous recorded on minidv, that's no problem. of the data processing ago I do not care synonymous and it should my computer. but thanks for the advice!

Thanks for your answer bernd!

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Antwort von canovision:

the second statement of the Canon is just this comparison with Small Focal length:

Focal 4.8 s.der Videocam is equal to 57.6 mm focal KB-42.9-514.8 mm

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Antwort von darkstar86:

s.ok now have ichs understood, thank you! the value for Sony would indeed be synonymous with the n.entsprechen.

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