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Canon MVX20i - Sportaufnahmen nichts geht

Canon MVX20i - Sport shooting anything goes



Frage von estola:
September 2006

Hello,

Slowly I have square eyes and headache from too much reading and yet I have what I seek not really found.

maybe someone can help me.

I have a Canon MVX20i and wants to sport it, or make reitaufnahmen. I have attended a horse show yesterday when I was a known film. The paddock was in the shadow of suspicion, and I have the cam set in sport mode. Despite a super clear picture and shadow engraved color but the movements of the horse carriages were in a light zoom, blur, and if another horse - closer - ran through the building, were formed - trailing shadow even more violent - ugly.

Now I've read through this and other forums - war ne short night - and learned that it makes sense, to change the shutter time. ok, at 1 / 1000 to 1 / 2000, the picture is quite dark, but I could live with (the exposure is on preset shutter time does not change, most in negative range. in the area plus the cam is probably already maxed)

how it looks with the autofokus out, is the shutter in such use at all times or is it reasonable rather focussing on manual.

And, at a shutter speed of 1 / 1000 or 1 / 2000 is because the freihandverwacklung less.

The electronic bildstabilistor not bring really good results.

However, the MVX20i is a cam that had my low-class (the cam bought for 460euro) represents and I do not have the possibility to invest even more money.

at least I would be tips and tricks relating to sport very gratefully received.



Antwort von randoni:

In shorthand:

If dark:
- Autofokus (anyway) from
- Tripod out
- Pray to god that the images are well

There
. r



Antwort von Dj Dino:

"Estola" wrote:
BUT, the movements of the horse carriages were in a light zoom, blur, and if another horse - closer - ran through the building, were formed - trailing shadow even more violent - ugly.
Hi have, technically identical on these matters MVX40.
In automatic mode (adjusting wheel on a green "A"), the shutter speed (to care for a higher intensity because, unfortunately) partly under 1 / 50 the way down to 1 / 25 and then are quickly moving shadows in the sense of blurred now, too little Licht.Weis because not as good lighting conditions were there for your recordings but surely this problem on this Canon series filmed in any case ruled out in full automatic mode, but to fix the shutter speed to 1 / 50 in the menu (the menu is synonymous Automatikmodus.Bei sport shooting ranges, in my experience 1 / 100 shutter speed, of course, is even higher shutter speed even better motion sharpness but still loud enough to my liking because even higher shutter speeds than 1 / 100 too much darkening even under good lighting conditions, then you need to brighten up the video editing software with eg gamma what the noise But mitverstärkt, synonymous not just the solution.

Erschwärend is in addition to the Canon MVX-20/40 of the noise filter is aligned quite steng leading to double contours or just too spouses shadow contours leads in low light (this one can not turn off)
Even worse: The problem adds up then unfortunately at too high a shutter speed as in increasingly high shutter speed less light falls on the sensor and the noise filter will also be increasingly more work around the low-light noise rauszufiltern.Der noise filter does not know whether poor light conditions due to low light are actually or a high shutter speed and then makes this very result contours.

Double contours, but rather caused by the noise filter as shutter speeds.

What is better? :
1 / 100 shutter speed (= little motion blur) with this but more active noise filter (= more double contours)?
Or 1 / 50 shutter speed (= more motion blur) with this, but slightly less active noise filter (= less double contours)?

Would prefer the latter because double outlines are really ugly, motion blur, however, at least not have such a movie-Tatsch.

For professional sports photography, the camera is just not built simply, no wonder with the price.








Antwort von Dj Dino:

"Estola" wrote:
The electronic bildstabilistor not bring really good results.

At high zoom (so more than 5x) increases the risk of blurring because every little gesture is amplified as synonymous to the best image stabilization at some point no longer equilibrate kann.Dazu is: When are increasingly high shutter speed kontrastmessungsbasierender Image Stabilization no longer works so well because the contrasts due to higher Shutter speed (since removed by increasing darkening), do not differentiate so well for the electronics.
The only solution was as I said above: a tripod (which is not to hold up really easy if you aufhällst you in the audience area, also ask for a tripod then perhaps the ner after filming permit because it will easily noticeable) in the sense of professional comes across, then maybe a little better



Antwort von Dj Dino:

"Estola" wrote:
how it looks with the autofokus out, is the shutter in such use at all times or is it reasonable rather focussing on manual

Because of the low Resolutiondes color screens and the viewfinder (also only a display) is a sharpness control in manual focus difficult möglich.Man may think that it hinhaut but the results are s.Television then usually ungenügend.Dafür's really only the bulky black-wei Viewfinder of pro-Schultercamcordern as here miniature cathode ray tubes are used with a hitherto unbeatable resolution and contrast imaging to assess sharpness.
Since I would be better at autofocus.



Antwort von Markus:

"Dj Dino" wrote:
... then maybe a little better



Antwort von Dj Dino:

"Mark" wrote:
"Dj Dino" wrote:
... then maybe a little better



Antwort von estola:

[quote = "Dj Dino"]
"Estola" wrote:


For professional sports photography, the camera is just not built simply, no wonder with the price.


surely this cam is not suitable for such recordings as I want to make them. so I will work towards a canon synonymous MX2.

as far as the price of MVX20i, one should not ignore that this once was 1200euro.



Antwort von estola:

on tripod. I am so torn up, and because one of horses on film - especially if they need freewheel - more flexibility than that one with a tripod everything riff as without.

a free-pferd on koppel, then jumps right to the left of it, suggests hook, comes running up to one, which can be with tripod already critical.

Above all, I do not want to show only reitaufnahmen scenic but just synonymous details full motion.

rundrum, the cam, it does not, and so I had them back today. hope everything is OK.

s.alle certainly grateful that I have with regard to shutter time, etc. furthered belichtgung something. it will be useful to me at any rate for my other camera laufbahn.



Antwort von Markus:

"Estola" wrote:
on tripod. [...] A free-running horse in the paddock, then jumps right to the left of it, hooks suggests, comes running up to one, which can be with tripod already critical.

No pain, no price. The same the pros do in the transfer of horse shows, but then no one would come up with the idea to work without a tripod too.

Ussynonymous Here is the difference between a lightweight consumer tripod which we must adhere to the (fast) to pan, so you do not sweeps, and a professional video tripod, which stands firmly on the ground and which is synonymous with a Reißschwenk not be unruffled .



Antwort von HaPe:

"Mark" wrote:
"Estola" wrote:
on tripod. [...] A free-running horse in the paddock, then jumps right to the left of it, hooks suggests, comes running up to one, which can be with tripod already critical.

No pain, no price. The same the pros do in the transfer of horse shows, but then no one would come up with the idea to work without a tripod too.



TV broadcasts are synonymous with profit not only a camera but many s.werk. since each has its task, that you can not really compare with a one-person camera.



Antwort von Markus:

"Guest" wrote:
TV broadcasts are synonymous with profit not only a camera but many s.werk. since each has its task, that you can not really compare with a one-person camera.

Yeah, that will come to it. Which, of course, the requirements s.den a cameraman also increased - and thus synonymous speaks for the use of a very ordinary tripod. ;-)









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