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Frage von Fridel:
Dezember 2007

Hello, I have a Canon XL H1 and gegönnt Optics equal to the WW, I'm quite satisfied so far as synonymous with the pictures that I've rotated in 1080i. Now the problem: When I turn on the television, I must still submit Pal. I have now done so that I HDV signal as a signal Componente Pal to a DSR 1800 DVCam Maz've played on. And it was the Endbild my opinion, worse than my old Sony150er. So soft so that it no longer would take transmitter. Has anyone of you experience similar, or even better a solution?
Thank Fridel



Antwort von r.p.television:

Give it time but do not have Component via firewire. Hab synonymous, the XL-H1, but never use it as a player, so I know nothing about the quality of internal PAL-down conversion.
Have so far only my XH-A1 HD-s.FULL connected via Component and found that the component signal as opposed to the HDMI signal in my Sony HDV VTR both in color than non-synonymous resolution mitkommt.



Antwort von michimalheur:

That means you turn with your XL H1 HDV in and play this tape in a SonyMaz s.and which there will be a pal, or?
And are you satisfied with the outcome?
Then I will probably synonymous earliest times following an HDV Maz around them.
Fridel








Antwort von r.p.television:

You need not necessarily a MAZ. I got me really, mainly because of the large cassette and the HDMI output purchased.
Just use the internal converters of the XL H1. You can adjust the menu that over Firewire DV but not HDV output. I think the quality should be better.



Antwort von michimalheur:

Cool, thank you, I will try it, you have experience with the Custom Settings? What you should still set? Thank Fridel



Antwort von michimalheur:

the best results when you get downconverten
from HDV material with appropriate software and
not with the cam ... fosu times then ...
gruß cj



Antwort von r.p.television:

Sure it goes through the NLE in a better quality, but it has not always time for that.

Because of the custom settings can not really make recommendations, because each after his own taste and the requirements of the shoot should be set.
I personally favourisieren following settings.
CineGamma to 2, sometimes 1, Knee High, or Auto, Black on Press. I leave everything else untouched. Admittedly, there are still Lowlight presets. But if you're even better in front of a monitor set.



Antwort von michimalheur:

Sorry, but what is an NLE?
And I have thought until now, the composite in comparison to DV via firewire a less compressed Palbild results.
What is unfortunately not yet able to test because I'm just an average.
What software would you recommend to convert?
Many greetings Fridel



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
... what is an NLE?

"Non-linear editor," German for your editing software.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von PowerMac:

A pretty shitty workflow! Components will lead to HDV-SD ... it can be almost nothing. For better quality, you need to record HDV via Firewire, cut and s.Ende runterkonvertieren. This can most programs quite well. The AE method is well suited, almost as good and much faster synonymous MPEG Streamclip. Then of course you expect in an uncompressed SD file. That you can then instantly via SDI to any IMX-/Beta-MAZ off, if necessary synonymous via firewire s.die DV VTR.



Antwort von Thomas Petschel:

Did the Canon A1 and the SonyVX2100 and attempts have been forever with Premiere Pro CS3 and various other software-quality HDV to standard definition (PAL) to save. My Conclusion: Pal-quality conversion of HDV is much worse than the picture of the VX2100. No matter what you do. The best is still the result of the camera internal conversion, the Canopus Procoder 3 (which is to be broadcast quality) transforms to an equally high level of quality. The worst is the conversion with Premiere CS3, if the HDV Project in exported DV, HDV or when a clip easily into a Pal Project is drawn. How to close with HDV DigiBeta quality wants to achieve is a mystery to me. While there are HDV to DV Converter in broadcast range for 5-10 T ¬ (only for format conversion !!!), but with Canopus Procoder3 yes synonymous, it should go, but not! Hab synonymous in television has never been anyone with A1, Z1 or similar work to see if they HVX200 with, because that makes 50p and can be fairly easily to other lossless format convert. My Conclusion: A1 or XL H1 is not for TV productions in standard definition.
Perhaps there is someone who had an opportunity to look at the HDV to SD to convert, and although with broadcast technology, would be interesting times ....



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

There are some broadcasters whose team partly synonymous with Sonyand Canon HDV camcorders are ...

I was with the multiple options when herunterkonvertieren not yet sufficiently employed, such problems but know only too well from the photo area. It is very used to the scaling method and the algorithm of the software. There are but very very good results possible.

As for the DVD I runterkonvertieren must evaluate this issue, I keep an eye on time and hope you diligently discussed next.








Antwort von PowerMac:

"Thomas Petschel" wrote:
Did the Canon A1 and the SonyVX2100 and attempts have been forever with Premiere Pro CS3 and various other software-quality HDV to standard definition (PAL) to save. My Conclusion: Pal-quality conversion of HDV is much worse than the picture of the VX2100. No matter what you do. The best is still the result of the camera internal conversion, the Canopus Procoder 3 (which is to be broadcast quality) transforms to an equally high level of quality. The worst is the conversion with Premiere CS3, if the HDV Project in exported DV, HDV or when a clip easily into a Pal Project is drawn. How to close with HDV DigiBeta quality wants to achieve is a mystery to me. While there are HDV to DV Converter in broadcast range for 5-10 T ¬ (only for format conversion !!!), but with Canopus Procoder3 yes synonymous, it should go, but not! Hab synonymous in television has never been anyone with A1, Z1 or similar work to see.


1. Is the camera really bad internal conversion.
2. Make some Final Cut Pro, the AE method, MPEG Streamclip or additional programs, the downscaling very good. You get from HDV, uncompressed SD in 4:2:2, which is damn good (near the Digibeta myth). One may of course not convert HDV to DV. DV is just too bad. One must remain synonymous in 4:2:2.
3. Is there no HDV to DV converter for 5000 euros. Allerhöchchstens HDV to SDI.
4. Works at least one third of the "television" with small cameras. Z1, PD170, DVX, sometimes synonymous been A1.
5. I suspect Premiere turns bad.



Antwort von Thomas Petschel:

6. HDV is 4:2:0 (one can safely expect synonymous to 4:4:4, but whether this makes sense ...)
7. When there www.edirol.de the VC-300HD, a quote: "HD / HDV / DV Media Converter. Provider in the area want to broadcast Euro 6990. Similar devices are synonymous of other manufacturers, in a similar price range. When editing software in the consumer realm, the same heritage could make sure it would be difficult for such Manufacturer.
8. SDI or HD-SDI is a connect to the Picture-and sound transmission, but you can see not SDI. About SDI devices are connected but the signal as in Raw DV (DV unkompriemiertes) embedding. This can then play in the editing system.
9. HDV Pal to convert to (high quality) is safe so difficult, because with 50i to the 1080 (1.Weg): 25p is expected to be (it is still easy, everyone makes his deinterlacer with plasma), is then scaled to 576 lines, and then the 25p signal to be 50i, and this will be the difficulty. It lacks even a unit of time.
Or (2.Weg): it is the 1080 with 50i to 50p are expected, then scaled to 576 lines, then back to 50i interlaced. When the path is the difficulty to convert from 50i to 50p. It is therefore in line 1,3,5, 2,4,6, etc. The lines are calculated. By RE: Vision, there is a software plug-in: Fieldskit. The consideration for the calculation of line 2,4,6, etc. and following the previous time units. And yet you can reach the entire Wandelei not the quality of a pro-Pal-camera. Feature film productions are likely to 50p rotated to the lossless format to convert



Antwort von PowerMac:

I've just no time, every paragraph, to comment on it. I need you but largely contradictory. Also thank you explain to me what is SDI. Finde ich echt dufte, but I know better than you You get from HDV to SD 4:2:2 and not 4:2:0. If one calculates advance in uncompressed files or in a suitable video format. Editing programs make a better course than hardware downscaling. From the very simple reason that they have time and the algorithms are constantly being improved. Hardware converters only have the advantage of real-time conversion, no more. About the AE method is definitely the best thing there is. You get some very well be a better quality than older Digibeta they manage. Also because the frequencies are properly exploited.



Antwort von smooth-appeal:

At the risk of her for me ... do stupid :-D

Why only because of i p after converting?

When scaling is but for Picture Picture downscaled. If the two fields then with the same settings will be downscaled, but should actually almost unchanged in the contents of Picture to come out - only smaller ... Or was I wrong and it works not so simple?

And how do I get from my 4:2:0 material 4:2:2?

Would be nice if you have me the necessary steps could explain, PowerMac.

At my A1, I can tap directly in 4:2:2, which is not recorded but again stretched to the HDV specifications to satisfy.

Because of you but all HDV camcorders have spoken, you can actually only an interpolation of the chrominance my ...

Greeting
smooth



Antwort von PowerMac:

http://www.final-cut-pro.de/stage/_inhalte/berichte/016_hdv_zu_sd.php5?navid=2
http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=46287&highlight =
http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=47277&highlight =

Even more: HDV to SD is actually 10 bit and 4:2:2. Just because you Herunterrechnen at once at a much higher Chrominanzauflösung has. Simple mathematics. 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 to HD is in SD. It is synonymous new nuances, so 10 bits make sense.



Antwort von Thomas Petschel:

powermac is right! ... must excuse me ...

Hab heut yet tried and achieved great results:

1. PP CS3 (in HDV Project) timeline export as Blackmagic Design HD codec 8-bit 4:2:2 50fps (synonymous to their site to download and use any person who does not Intensity card) (2min24sec Testfile are 27, 8GB)

2. with Canopus Procoder3 converted to DVD mpeg2 pal, mastering quality mode

3. with PP CS3 DVD

Ergenis: image sharpness, super quality! Much better than a DVD that I'm down with camera-internal conversion of the A1 times had made. Also much better than DVD's with SonyDSR200 and VX2100.

So the error is only HDV than DV-AVI to DVD and then convert to mpeg how PowerMac said yes ...

sorry again



Antwort von Thomas Petschel:

404ERR



Antwort von sm:

Thanks Mac!



Antwort von Trixi200:

"Thomas Petschel" wrote:


1. PP CS3 (in HDV Project) timeline export as Blackmagic Design HD codec 8-bit 4:2:2 50fps (synonymous to their site to download and use any person who does not Intensity card) (2min24sec Testfile are 27, 8GB)


Hello Thomas

I work currently with PP CS2. I have the Black Magic Design codec downloaded and installed.

Sorry, the dilettante question, but how exactly do I get into Preme in the timeline export. And how do I select the thereafter Blackmagic codec from?

Thanks for the help!
Shoes








Antwort von Thomas Petschel:

The timeline (the sequence) must be selected (colors framed in CS3), then on the File Export Movie Settings to select Blackmagic codec, and export file.




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