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Casablanca Meilenstein der Filmgeschichte??

Casablanca milestone in film history?



Frage von filmeinsteiger:
Dezember 2008

Hi together ... search now been extended after explanations why Casablanca as a milestone in film history is traded - anyone an idea?



Antwort von mann:

"movie beginner" wrote:
... Casablanca as a milestone in film history ...???


Why Milestone?

FROM MY BELLY OUT thesis:
Casablanca = sentimentality another (film-) generation, plus the Transfiguration mediocre actor Bogart to myth, including the (time-related sexfreien) Ingrid Bergmann. The film was little more than mediocre entertainment (love story), plus a little bit of this (crime) and a bit of it (historically, emphasis on a anti-Nazi position).



Antwort von Axel:

If history is only from the present view, has "man" right, so Casablanca is a Schmachtschinken, the quality (content, such as artisanal) probably was a few hundred times over. What the film is made, the fears and longings of contemporaries to make perfect ( "mainstream"), without the reality of too generous to hide ... - Establishes our presence in any film? Call times but one example.





Antwort von B.DeKid:

Gude film entrants

First, look these times



Antwort von domain:

So much as I can the film still synonymous captivate and entertain, what I'm currently of Kubrick's space odyssey on one does not. I was as unintentional DVD Einschlafmittel of my daughter a gift.
The taste has changed, but while he was in this film of Kubrick devastating effect, he is relatively s.Casablanca trace vorrübergegangen. Why?
On a beautiful picture sterile effect alone is not relevant, there must be an understandable synonymous juicy story to laugh and cry-type.



Antwort von Axel:

A juicy success story from the present. This can not be meant Titanic. None has a proposal? Comes as only old Hecker to mind? As the studio bosses, the sequel and a remake of coming off? Seems more as we walk through the graveyard of film history.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

... but "Knocked Up" - was funny and had message of love story ;-)

or
"KeinOhrHasen" - funny, cheeky plus love story - but unfortunately no real message.

..........

"Titanic", I mentioned only because of the position he holds on IMDB.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS. "Odyssey in space" is already synonymous exhausting - but if for some scenes of 2 times the playback speed is expressed, we can already look at him.



Antwort von domain:

Is this really such a kick-back to a very sophisticated intellectual thread, which extends over several pages with total subjective opinions then draw?
Since synonymous what can I contribute to. I do not watch movies anymore, but just read the first comic strip in the world, namely Wilhelm Busch and since I have today made two stories, namely Hans Hucke leg and the Fromme Helene.
Connoisseurs will know why these two.



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
I do not watch movies anymore, but just read the first comic strip in the world, namely Wilhelm Busch and since I have today made two stories, namely Hans Hucke leg and the Fromme Helene.
Connoisseurs will know why these two.


Before welcoming their computers and nice
Tap the poster s.einem thread.
Domain even though the film weighed
hats pulled into a book.
From the world space, as his bleak,
the schmaltzy love to despicable because,
disappointed, he was the bookworm,
at last what had to laugh.
A final puzzle, however, had
the Good, from behind and nasty,
back, so it is still crack
and finished about the whole shit:
As a nun and a raven
with this because to have tuhen.



Antwort von Chezus:

There are always plenty of films, with the good criticism and Oscars will be overwhelmed, but I never have torn from the stool.

Maybe I am too simple crocheted, or give me with King Kong Roar or superheroes a la MARVEL satisfied.

Either way, I want to be entertained and not after the film must be read again what the point of the film actually had ...

Let's take "No Country for Old Men"
I was disappointed of the film. Perhaps synonymous, because he was so highly praised. In any case, he is not a film I am a second time would anschaun.

Why is the film because as good as all the critics describe it? And why is even praised the film? The entire film is not 1x music before, except it plays a role in the film (the Mexicans in Mexico Ständchen type)

Why is someone (Javier Bardem) with an Oscar for Best Supporting Role award, without acting to shine. At least in my eyes. Must be because a film is so different to be raised to get good criticism?

I would only be interested. maybe so can someone explain to me why the movie is so unlikely Brilliant ...



Antwort von domain:

Excellent Axel,
but that you are so simple correlation between Hucke leg and Helene can not see? dz, dz ........



Antwort von domain:

"Chezus" wrote:

I would only be interested. maybe so can someone explain to me why the movie is so unlikely Brilliant ...

Stay times we specifically the term "brilliant"
PowerMac is as a specialist in metabolic observations. He eats like dumplings and may be synonymous on the further career of the digestive process is very vividly reported. This is brilliant, or with other words, brilliant border.
Even now I understand everything a lot easier when it comes to complex relationships goes.

This is synonymous for movies:
A film is brilliant in my view, if it intensifies and mental processes can be concentrated.

So I look s.liebsten gräuslichste documentary war films or various sets of vessels, of which there are plenty in Phoenix.
And then I verkrieche under my polyester blanket, eating peanuts and one to three bottles of red wine and am glad that I was not in the conquest of Normandy to be had.



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
... that you are so simple correlation between Hucke leg and Helene can not see? dz, dz ........


The "H" in the name? Treachery's or at least still give a hint. Komme yes I like Dan Brown on a scavenger hunt.

"domain" wrote:
PowerMac is as a specialist in metabolic observations. He eats like dumplings and may be synonymous on the further career of the digestive process is very vividly reported. This is brilliant, or with other words, brilliant border.
Even now I understand everything a lot easier when it comes to complex relationships goes.


This reminds me of the painter Klecksel (not verbatim):

The man sits on his seat
and eats porridge, for example,
He pushes the spoon in the mouth
The jelly trickles through the pharyngeal
It is through continued,
visible in Bäuchlein accumulated.
Sun looks clear how rarely,
inn're into the reign of nature
zum Bild



Antwort von domain:

Then read the two hold times in the original articles, you will be safe and really liked the relationship suggests itself to you directly and in an incredibly moralistic view directly on.



Antwort von PowerMac:

If it is "moralistic" to be synonymous, I recommend the "Critik of Pure Reason." "Thoughts without content are empty, without words outlooks are blind."



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
Then read the two hold times in the original articles, you will be safe and really liked the relationship suggests itself to you directly and in an incredibly moralistic view directly on.


This kind of "morality" and humor in any case it could be some good films do. I see a connection but still only very vaguely. A serious warning against alcohol abuse is probably not both, and if so, it would Owls in Athens. I drink little, I would hardly be drunk in knitting strangle or burn themselves.



Antwort von domain:

Oh look at times, you have the great Wilhelm Busch Album therefore synonymous to hand.
How long have you actually used to now so casually presented context?

In addition, Wilhelm Busch is really a force, although nothing for children, Max and Moritz times excluded.



Antwort von jogol:

Domain has written:
[/ quote] and am glad that I was not in the conquest of Normandy to be had.
Quote:

I do me, you're more likely to be in the "defense of Normandy" is
gewesen.Ein good reason to your "up to three bottles of red wine" is still a bottle of Calvados nachzulegen.
A film is brilliant in my view, if it intensifies and mental processes can be concentrated.
Quote:

"Time of the Gypsies" of Kusturica.Der only film in which I ever cry in movies habe.Ein masterpiece which can not even get a DVD. (Synchronized, or at least with German subtitles.)
"Successes" in the movie resemble Börsenberichten.Ich always amazed when the "sub culture" of eg Spiegel online the results of box office blockbusters s.ersten fat after its premiere weekend compared werden.Das is what a "great film" auszeichnet.Wo all the quiet, unspectacular
But good movies end up in this economy is quite clear.
All art is in the context of their Zeit.Casablanca is a parable about
the courage of the individual in times of heavy and over size. (The woman with the class wimp to be drawn.)
BdKid @
The "reconnaissance films" were the naked Grauen.Eine idea of hell!
Thank God there was at the same time as Warhol's "Flesh" and "Trash" as a small Trost.Deep throat hätt vergessen.Wo I almost incidentally, is "a '" of Bergmann abgeblieben?




Antwort von B.DeKid:

I moved the "Enlightenment films synonymous rather to the question" why dess, we now see things differently than it did - or think "The Velvet Underground" would still the Super Talent Competition aka DSDS win? ;-)
Let alone the mass A. Warhol's works understand or would really like.

----------

No Country for Old Men - yes, I understood the first time are not really synonymous. Think but this is synonymous intended.

With extra soundtrack and times synonymous with German subtitles but then he was already better.

The German version, but I ran exactly 10 minutes, then wars to me again too much.

................

@ Axel

Was actually "The Wonderful World of Amelie" a love story?

I found the synonymous very good, unfortunately, the only in Canada with English Subtitle had - but even the guys there liked the.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Axel:

Neither Amelie Deep Throat still meet both requirements, namely, first filled the cinema to have (properly filled, not just a couple of alternative and arthouse film in a), and secondly, contemporary relevance to be explosive, s.Puls time.

If there is such a film would, None need long to think, because one would have seen them. So Titanic, but with people from the neighborhood and a drama that emerges from our daily themes developed. When you first sit in the movies, eingelullt as usual, and suddenly his internal clock is reset to zero, remember, this is NOW.

"Schindler's List" fulfilled the second criterion is not complete, but with the new era now. The moral problem was not to oust and timeless.



Antwort von jogol:

Mir, the question is what box office results of "Schindler's List" would have achieved, he would not of Spielberg rotated worden.Die much attention to the film was put forward, surely synonymous based on the fact that "such a man" of this issue has .
These lists are exciting
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_erfolgreicher_Filme_nach_Einspielergebnis_und_Besucherzahlen
BdKid @
The "reconnaissance films are still looking back Tacke gruesome than they would on their time already waren.Prüde, musty Softpornokacke under the banner of pedagogy, in a prudish, stuffy Land.Picture, Bravo, Dr.Sommer Warhol ... I only mentioned because
his stuff was almost anarchic equivalents to the above-mentioned darstellten.Mit his sexuality stuff you could be chasing me today synonymous.
The most notable in "no country for old men" is arguably the Coen brothers, a factory faithful implementation of the book of Cormac McCarthy delivered haben.Lies times "Lost" from above, then you know why the movie is.
How full the movies at Kusturica's "Time of the Gypsies" was, I can not remember, but the second criterion, he has fulfilled for me.
Quote:
When you first sit in the movies, eingelullt as usual, and suddenly his internal clock is reset to zero, remember, this is NOW.

Exactly that



Antwort von jav666:

subject to:

here

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casablanca_ (film)

Note: The forum is scheisse programmed: the parentheses are part of the URL!

everything is really relvante the film and why he is one of the best movies of "all" time is



Antwort von PowerMac:

Wow, the Wikipedia. This is a great link times.



Antwort von jav666:

better than the other gelaber.




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