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Chain shirt crash tests - such as film?



Frage von Nio:
März 2007

Hi,

I have a small problem: And I am so mad, my chain shirt to make :-) Now "wants to" do in the school a small unit on hold. Since I am the whole technique in teaching to make, I must especially in the production and the quality of entries. I would, inter alia, as a nice slow-show host, as my girlfriend on parts of the chain tissue shoots to see how many shirts to chain themselves to be carried over to shots to survive.
Therefore, I have the following question: ranging from the 24 fps, at least to see how the rings fall down, or should I try a better camera to organize. I have already considered that I chain shirt of the films below, since the rings are all synonymous fall down to the slow effect is not quite as jerky look to leave. (On camera traps rings, since the 2 - dimensionality of television, it looks as if it is slow / not moving so far)
Another idea I have considered with, perhaps with NTSC to film to photography anscheißend slower to run (NTSC 80% equal slower PAL)
I think if I use the NTSC video to 40% slower doing, I still 12fps with very good quality, or what do you think?
Do I get the NTSC video at all easily into a PAL video premiere of pure, or do I have problems?



Antwort von Eva Maier:

In the 80s has a Schneider "Blake" from London and slash resistant chain stitch shirts produced (weight 6kg). The dear man is now expected to visit his ancestors, but possibly even more which can be found on the net about this.

/ E



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

So to your question:
So, with NTSC and PAL has rather little to do! NTSC has a completely different synonymous color scheme, I say now about it not too complicated to make, and does not contribute to relating to.
Take PAL, and film of the front right / left, all on a tripod and do not touch that's not shaking s.besten space and zoom with your girlfriend when it shoots. Then importierst dus in your editing program and make the whole slower denk times at 60% -40%, but this should suffice you try s.besten himself.
Do you have a little more money available to / want to spend a little more, lend you a High Speed Camera with 1000 images per second. They are in expensive purchase, but do not borrow at sooo. This is then already. From the bottom? If you want the chains on your Lens drop? Not credible.
And to test yourself: You should ne mannequin or porcine meat and take the chain shirt dress, dress itself would be a bit of life.
Although I can not say too much because you yourself have said very little.

Hope I could help
Julian





Antwort von Nio:

Before anyone makes clever ...

Quote:
Hi Nicolas
I was nearly synonymous times a week made by my clever Shooting. Have asked whether I'm on a chain shirt can shoot, or someone else. Unfortunately, the net allowed! I would really like it, but the Vorscrift it's different!
Hope you're not angry!
Jessica


Has anyone ne idea where it was found in the www, because I'm in search again landed here ...



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Hello NiO,

Your words: I would, inter alia, as a nice slow-show host, as my girlfriend on parts of the chain tissue shoots to see how many shirts to chain themselves to be carried over to shots to survive.

Given the current discussion on violence, etc. Ion s.Schulen particular, you should see your idea of time thinking about.



Antwort von Nio:

If this be a joke?

No, the whole was really honest meant to show how much so few NEN rings can sustain. And before someone asks: IHC'm the last of any violent games, etc. ... good find I know for some time, as you feel when you smell s.einen knife ...



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

In schools, I do not think something good.



Antwort von Nio:

Oh, I have during the school trip to the smell test. I bereuhe still, not that I'm gone teacher. I now do not tell other thing I like with him would make ...



Antwort von Sascha:

All a question of money. It is synonymous with 24fps recording very good Slowmotion (see Twixtor plugin).



Antwort von Nio:

if man - see above - getting permission.



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Your answers are unskilled halt according to your age!



Antwort von Nio:

And I understand from your answer that you have no idea what is going on in the schools off ... Thank you.



Antwort von Udo Schröer:

Is synonymous yes 25 years ago, it is better hardly become.



Antwort von Nio:

And another unqualified contribution. This time to schools and violence.



Antwort von Eva Maier:

http://www.schutzwesten.ch/movies.htm

/ E



Antwort von Nio:

How about I have hoped for. Just stop with NEN Kettnehmd :-( Perhaps we should be filming in Switzerland ;-)
Perhaps the NEN Admin "unqualified" train up there delete ...

Troz not chain shirt, thank you :-)



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:
(...) Given the current discussion on violence, etc. Ion s.Schulen particular, you should see your idea of time thinking about.


What is the kind of an impoverished Stuss? Shall we no more films about problems just because they exist? That sounds pretty naive and ill. Now, times when the fish butter Udo. What do you know about schools? What do you know about violence? And what do you know about media education?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Udo Schröer" wrote:
Given the current discussion on violence, etc. Ion s.Schulen particular, you should see your idea of time thinking about.

With enough imagination, a connection between all and any produce, but what has the testing of a medieval chain shirt for art lessons with the violence s.Schulen to do?
Return relating to: When a Schützenverein not be allowed to shoot (which is actually the rule should be that the bans?), Then ask it out officially at the next Landeskriminalamt after. Perhaps it is because what do if an official's school is?

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von AndyZZ:

"Bernd E." wrote:

Return relating to: When a Schützenverein not be allowed to shoot (which is actually the rule should be that the bans?)


Maybe the fear of ricochets?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"AndyZZ" wrote:
Maybe the fear of ricochets?

Could well be. I would be only interested in where such a prohibition is written explicitly. But if the fact is so, is still a military training ;-)

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Daigoro:

If in the course of action any Koerperteile lost, this is done at your own risk:

Just take an ax and film a few blows on the chain shirt - Please do not Schweinehaelften drunterlegen, a tire's doing synonymous (pull it to safety clothing! Alone because of the safety message of the movie .. this is much more serious than the whole 'I'm stupid but scheisse proud of it 'shows a la Jackass).

Lots of light use (quite a sunny day in the hot sun or some baustrahler here or gezeighte 'neonroehrenpanels'), fast shutter speed - so 1 / 500 up (otherwise you'll see not take a Axtschlag really good and everything is blurred)

Hau ne then 50% slow motion thing (looks at more 'normal' kind of video material from schrottig) and take the destroyed (or even halt all) Chain shirt with the school, so that the damage people can see directly.
Special equipment without expensive (and 'cheap rent' .. is there quite a few hundred euro's per day are still to be).

I do not know what the theme of the work should be, but 'shoot at a chain shirt' in my opinion, is nothing less than show effects without any relevance for something and comes just after 'bomb on a chain shirt off'.

If you want to show what a chain shirt stand, do so far as possible in the historical context (ie if you have no sword, then halt ax - normal Baumfaellaxt should be enough).

ps a historically accurate bombardment test (namely with crossbow bolts), there's here: http://www.historiavivens1300.at/biblio/beschuss/beschuss.htm

Learn more about chain shirt here:
http://www.lederkram.de/index.php?go_to_this=/pages.php&cat_ID=&page_ID=34&artikel_ID =

Quote:
But if the fact is so, is still a military training


I recommend pattern / Westphalia. If you are lucky shoot one the Amis ne schoene 40mm grenade directly into the center (ok, we were not synonymous better and have almost ne Bundesstrasse decorated with bomblets .. so went about 200 meters next to it: P) - you have to do is a little bit lucky to be where you shirt chain hang to dry.



Antwort von Eva Maier:

@ Phasntasie with enough ...
I could well imagine that when we re-shoot in an abandoned cement factory land.
Otherwise, the person with the necessary equipment, including gun license has already know how mam sowas hinkriegt.

/ e



Antwort von Platinum:

I understand the whole experimental arrangement ever so not because they do not have any practical relevance. Steel is needed for this task today is totally inadequate: sometimes after Googling Cylons




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