Frage von Tristan:
Hall first,
I have a few questions, since I soon an anniversary concert of a choir will be filming
I will be the concert with 3 video cameras (Canon XM2, Sony HDR-FX1 and sony dcr trv50). What do you think would be the best camera installation of the space, I thought I cam a full, second cam as synonymous of the page and also on the third shot and not on a tripod, but in the hand and makes these close-ups of singers, audience etc.. Yes, the choir goes on no pa system, hence I have the audio signal on the camcorder. Do you know what is the best of the Aufioaufzeichnung is, I thought the canon. Therefore, I wanted them synonymous centrally, so that the choir just opposite of the camera is to provide the best audio recordings to get. Yes, I hope you still have useful tips for me, because I am used to after the cut resulting DVD to sell. Thank you thank you thank you already in advance
Antwort von derpianoman:
Hello Tristan,
I would be familiar with the pieces that are sung in concert in order to know (eg, for close-ups) if & when soloists from the choir "solved".
Optimally, it would be, the sound separately with two spatial microphones
in a certain test can be determined by distance record.
You can use that event. iron out that of the cameras
recorded sound very "far away" sounds, or it could be as synonymous
the problem that you have people from the audience very loud
hear. And when the camera changed position changes
synonymous of the sound, then this is probably not to use ...
And again otherwise form = content, ie in a ring,
trendy piece of quick cuts and daring camera angles
for example, and spiritual choir music rather quiet, conservative.
When orchestras are sometimes broadcast on Conferences (!)
simply a part of the dress rehearsal (in everyday clothes!) installed.
The dress rehearsal, you should in any case already use!
And of course looking forward to all the pretty faces in the soprano & alto
to see. If the choir mainly buy the DVD, I would
but try all possible synonymous close to show times.
For the first (title) is beautiful, the "tense expectation"
before the first piece to have as Ambience. I would then
cut in front of the first piece rausnehmen again, so that the then
"collapses into silence."
MUCH SUCCESS!
Klaus
Antwort von Tristan:
Thank me very much helped.
Antwort von derpianoman:
When the Camera, the (fixed) the total synonymous absorbs the sound supply
I would be experimenting as far away from the choir I draw.
Yes next away, the more of a surround sound begins. It depends
Of the nature of space and personal taste from!
Concert Halls / Churches usually sound good, that is, the pleasant-sounding reverb,
but too much, ie too far away, making everything "mushy".
In case of doubt one should rather start to close, because Hall
subsequently can add but not remove it! Perhaps at times the conductor of the dress rehearsal with headphones
preludes?
Perhaps you have the opportunity to advance you some choral concerts
anzugucken on DVD?
Antwort von Tristan:
So I wanted to make it synonymous so that the camera takes the shot synonymous delivers the audio track. Yes, unfortunately it is not a church but this time it is actually more of a conference room where about 700 people. So I will try the camera as much as possible synonymous s.den choir to make noise in order to avoid the audience.
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
So I am the same as before pretty much a week with his Blasorchester've done, I can probably help you.
I had only two cameras but no preference.
I had a shot to an I would have addressed to the audience (behind orchestra) and the third as obile camera. From and you can too, but close-ups made by the audience. Film samples is always synonymous. It relaxes the whole a little.
So:
1. Shot on stage + a bit of audience
2. Shot at the audience a little bit + Conductor
3. Hand-held camera, because if you something versaust, cut on one of two other order.
Audio was not a problem for me. Have the approval of the camera made since then because I always was close to the orchestra, which was always moving away or next closer.
Hope I could help
achja 2 microphones are obviously not synonymous bad. I had one for the comedian and the Brass Band was synonymous reinforced by speakers. But what was not necessary, and so were already lautgenug ... ^ ^
So once again:
Hope I could help
Julian
www.MuFim.at
Antwort von Tristan:
Yes many thanks for the many tips. Time nor a question of what it credible that the audio recording of it if I have the Canon XM2 recording? Because as a third did so even my sony cam dcr TRV I think that's where it really a very good sound quality is synonymous only with built-in micro.
Antwort von flyingeye:
That you have to try it. But I would not do that, of course I have many orchestra only recorded with micro camera, which is simply bad.
You should really try somewhere Microphones herzukriegen (borrow) and then either into an extra camera or record, eg. with a portable MD recorder. Not the best solution, but all better than camera mics. And it is worth it and is actually required if you then want to sell.
One of the cameras is actually already said everything, so I would make synonymous, and so do I always synonymous. But you should still be light with the deal, which is very important.
Antwort von derpianoman:
If it is not sacred concert will be synonymous are perhaps a few
funny stuff, that is funny in Articles? Or funny announcements?
Then it would be nice if you
already Camera on the audience
've addressed (if you know when the joke comes) and the first
Laughter is not only fast Hinschwenken need ...
Antwort von Tristan:
To return to the topic Microphone return. I've synonymous even a filmed concert by the choir and the voice of my Sonydcr TRV 50 was flawless, synonymous only with the built-mirko. Synonymous and I think the Canon XM2 even better is the audio recording of her.
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
Yes. But if he has a camera, the audience constantly on the look is better than fast hinschwenken.
Antwort von Tristan:
As was once said:
1.cam -> total and audio recording
2.cam -> So nahaufnamen shot mainly of solisten
3.cam -> detail shots audience and choir
Antwort von FritzK:
Hi Tristan. Just as you want it make it ok. The XM2 I would make it synonymous and the sound to make manual. At the dress rehearsal with the Headphones adjustment. Goes well. I have a choir concert with only one camera, XL1S, and MA 100 (XLR) ext. Microphone recorded. Beautiful Zoomfahrten slow pans and slow. The camera was slightly higher than "eye level". Everyone was thrilled afterwards.
You have to respect the only thing not too many people close to the XM2 sit, because cough zwischengemurmel, children like to talk a little louder so the Micro takes everything. Experiments with a Plasticrrohr which the Microphone fits, but only front flush, incorporated.
Practice at the dress rehearsal. What helps very synonymous, the wireless speakers with a headset. Is there any department store for about 25, - ¬. Man can be very quiet instructions. Works fine.
MfG
FritzK
Antwort von cstuder:
And another tip from personal experience: When the audience in some way in the vicinity of your camera may come necessarily their tripod and position fix.
I was a CameraLink accidentally shot the record should see something moving and promptly had half the choir is no longer on it.
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
As was once said:
1.cam -> total and audio recording
2.cam -> So nahaufnamen shot mainly of solisten
3.cam -> detail shots audience and choir He is alone there have fun at the use of 2 cams ...
To Head Seats: Bluetooth Headphones between mobile phone and two free phone calls where you can go synonymous
Antwort von Tristan:
Thank you. Achso and I'm not alone either with three or two. What do you mean exactly with the plastic tube?
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
Put a plastic tube over the Micro. It combines the sound to the front, then less of the Page, quasi ne dir Micro Atrappe
Sorry did not know that there are more
Antwort von Tristan:
Aso cool this is a good idea then I think it s.besten how to make a funnel?
Antwort von MuFim Productions:
The funnel would be so near again. Thus, then everything is bundled, so the whole room sound come into MicroStation. So make the sound volume.
Antwort von Tristan:
So just make s.besten cylinders?
Antwort von flyingeye:
Take such a plastic pipe from the construction market (but not OBI, because employees are so unkind). In the plastic tube I would Microphone does not create but merely to hang (like a microphone s.ein few rubber spider). The tube is then bolted with his part that in the accessory shoe fits.
Antwort von Tristan:
(But not OBI, because employees are so unfriendly)
LOLOLOL XD das is so good XD. Joa so grateful, I will make
Antwort von flyingeye:
In most markets OBI where I was until now, the staff were so rude:
"Could you tell me where I and the search?"
"Since back! But they see that I am at the moment with an employee on Private entertain!" I think I am spinning. And in the media market, it is the same. The should do together
Antwort von Tristan:
Nenene the best is still Medimax I do not want to make surreptitious or jobs but who give no idea of technology has and is looking for a job should not hesitate in Medimax Report. We are always looking for incompetent unqualified personnel. Ey know really nothing there that's really bad.
Antwort von flyingeye:
Who says something that was in our OBI yet.
Antwort von Tristan:
No. Medimax we can not be beat. If you want to call something to learn is of the Mon-Sat 12.00uhr of 12.00uhr else-not because otherwise the rest of the time None rangeht. Then you go to a "consultant" * cough * lol the question is something which no preference. Then comes the pre-programmed Answer 1 they ask because the rear times or 2nd I'm just busy or 3rd we need to order well -> the answer of course, after random
Antwort von Peter2003:
I think the problem stems from our stinginess is cool mentality. Staff must not cost more. Cheap and thus mostly unqualified. Do you even still synonymous with online shops compete sometimes good people meet synonymous with Media Markt and Saturn nor sellers who know of what they speak and not only are capable of pallets or a rebuild Statistendasein to lead. They are not synonymous but performance will be fairly rewarded. I find this dis ... e, but can I afford hardly synonymous, where else to buy. Medimax, however, is synonymous with my filled the "shooting". Scrap on the pallets and the corresponding staff.
The should be in the know how of its employees to invest. Since it is often already. when out and return to the Manufacturer to a Informationsveranstaltung Invite. Info, good food, motivation. Sowas gabs any case 20 years ago.
Greeting
Peter
Habs I just noticed that I'm fully s.Thema past, but I had to get rid of.
Antwort von Peter2003:
I would still something to the actual topic.
I have a few months ago an orchestra with three cameras filmed, alone. The result would certainly not professional demands. For me and my "target" had come ok.
It is important that you always filming in mind that the material must then synchronize. This was for me a reason, the cameras largely of beginning to end (except of course when changing tapes) through it. Thus I could with every title passages out of sync, which is then synonymous for all titles submitted. This had proved successful.
Otherwise, I've already filmed the rehearsal and I like the highlights, for example, the solos, the single track down. Then, I made a "Director Zettel" written where these points were noted and as was stated when I where the camera position had to change behind the camera and I had to stand for something, for example ranzuzoomen. Also was on the label what is happening on stage, such as dance interludes and whether, for example, rapid movements to film, simply that I'm prepared and not with the camera some things behind Schwenke.
I also have the sample in different camera positions and tried me on the night then viewed Calculator, simply to see if my ideas are realistic synonymous.
With the lighting I was already in the sample a bit, since I LowLight about the behavior of my camera had some concerns.
At the subsequent shooting, I have kept strictly s.meine targets. And, from the end, I have learned for next time.
Greeting
Peter
Antwort von derpianoman:
... 3.cam -> detail shots audience and choir What I tried to say is: Thanks
in advance if you know
who is the "solo" singing, and with him not only need to search for the Camera.
And beautiful, if you know when a gag is that the Camera
then already on the "liveliest" Safe in the audience rests,
and the complete response mitbekommt.
Antwort von Tristan:
Yes that is with the solos and other "dance interludes" I am familiar, because my own sister in the choir sings and I am therefore all the important things about the pieces and the time when soloists are white.
Once again many many thanks for everything. It has been very helpful to me.
Antwort von FritzK:
Hi Tristan.
Even just to Microphone. To view the Micro. coverage of I
a Delial Sensitiv Soonnencrem bottle the lid taken off the ground and on the Micro. shelved. with insulating tape to
the Cam.Page sealed. Works great.
MfG
FritzK
Antwort von biber65:
I did a concert once synonymous filmed. That I will not always have the same attitude I had at the rehearsal, which under the same lighting conditions the camera was fed to the einzellnen Solisten addressed. At the main site I have a shot of the orchestra recorded. The times are not looked after so badly from. The Sound I only stop of the Cam shots taken.
Antwort von Tristan:
Since you think it would be noticed if I of the final rehearsal before the concert already zb soloists would absorb and then later in the correct video, also with recordings of the concert it cut?
Antwort von Markus:
Since you think it would be noticed ... If all live sung / played, then it will come to maturity differences, because people never exactly the same speed with sing / play.
Antwort von Peter2003:
Hello Tristan,
are in the rehearsal clothes, decoration, lighting, etc. are identical? Would not a prerequisite.
Greeting
Peter
Antwort von Tristan:
Yes people light ETX. everything is identical.
