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Christmas - camcorder for home videos



Frage von ghost_zero:
Dezember 2010

Hi,

I want to buy a camcorder as a Christmas gift.
It is mainly intended for the recording of home videos, but still have a good quality.

Now I've already looked around a bit and am going to the Panasonic SD66 and the Panasonic HDC-SD707 encountered.

After what I've read so should the HDC-SD707 already offer a much better picture, but most of all the fan noise is present when shooting a problem. Is it really so bad?

I have heard here synonymous, that with a firmware update should be better (less revolutions per minute?)? If so, one can assume that this has become "integrated" or do I import it first?
Also: How can you tell if this firmware update has already been recorded or not (after the purchase, eg packaging or system information menu)?

If I would have to import it first, I can take care of at home or do I send the camera for this?

Or do you think that for my purposes, should be sufficient SD66 anyway - this was not a fan problem and have it also is cheaper.

Or have you generally have any other suggestions?

Well over 1000 ¬ I would not spend before.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Ghost_zero" wrote:
SD707 ... ... the fan noise is present when shooting a problem. Is it really so bad? ...

This is indeed unbelievable Much has been written, but so be it. Either there are the fan-Series models, a very strong scattering or feel the sound of each other or both, the fact is in any case that the testimonies of "I hear nothing at all" reach "striking out". Since you will be bound to make you independently of random opinions on the internet own Picture.

"Ghost_zero" wrote:
... Have heard synonymous, that with a firmware update should be better (less rpm ?)?...

Except for a report of a single-owner SD707 is no evidence on this seems ominous firmware update to give. Since you can not only speculate how much substance has this info. Maybe ask slashcam times officially at Panasonic?

"Ghost_zero" wrote:
.... How can you tell if this firmware update has already been recorded or not ()?... after the purchase, eg packaging or system information menu

To my knowledge there of Panasonic no official confirmation of the existence of this update and therefore synonymous no visible indication of any kind I'm not even sure whether the SD707 at all their firmware version in the menu show can, so that it read there could, if it really relates to the firmware.

"Ghost_zero" wrote:
.... If I would have to import it first, I can take care of at home or do I send the camera for this? ...

Do it yourself is by no means, as this required the new firmware so only once for download would be available. In the current state of knowledge one can probably only every owner recommended a loud ventilating Camera of the 700 series, contact directly s.Panasonic, there seems to a customer already carried out "update" to have and to ask what it all about added.



Antwort von ghost_zero:

"Bernard E." wrote:
"Ghost_zero" wrote:
SD707 ... ... the fan noise is present when shooting a problem. Is it really so bad? ...

This is indeed unbelievable Much has been written, but so be it. Either there are the fan-Series models, a very strong scattering or feel the sound of each other or both, the fact is in any case that the testimonies of "I hear nothing at all" reach "striking out". Since you will be bound to make you independently of random opinions on the internet own Picture.


Well, I've already read synonymous, so there is nothing "new" in this regard.
Well, basically I was the fan noise so virtually no preference as long as it is on the recording can not hear yourself.
But you're probably right, there remains only to try it myself away and contact emergency s.den Panasonic support or ship the unit back (this is the case - if one of the fan is noisy - in fact synonymous possible outside the 14 days money back right?).
Theoretically, one could safely replace the fan synonymous equivalents against a quieter, but that has certainly result in loss of support and who knows whether we might not otherwise wipe out ...

And on the question whether in general the SD707 or simply not synonymous .. the SD66 or other alternatives?

Is it really the fan noise by using an external camera microphone, such as eliminating the "Sennheiser MKE 400"?





Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Ghost_zero" wrote:
... Is it really the fan noise by using an external camera microphone, such as eliminating the "Sennheiser MKE 400"? ...

An external microphone definitely helps, but already synonymous audio recording in stereo instead of in practice anyway usually little point in 5.1 surround ensures improvement.



Antwort von ghost_zero:

That's enough already synonymous?
Personally, I think 5.1 Recording with a Microphone anyway only for limited use and for home videos totally unnecessary:)

The microphone input is 3.5mm jack right?
If so, I'm thinking just the Sennheiser MKE 400 to buy.



Antwort von mann:

"Ghost_zero" wrote:

(...) SD707?
Is it really the fan noise by using an external camera microphone, such as eliminating the "Sennheiser MKE 400"?


I think so, got it just tried. Have audio recording level when set to-9dB, then let the cam run ten seconds in silence in the room, each with MKE400, then with Cam and Cam-Micro to stereo to surround-Micro.

The Cam-Micro has the fan noise anyway leftovers clear surround with more than stereo. The MKE400 not. However, the MKE rushes more, but you can surely wegpegeln on dB.

CORRECTION:

Nee habs tried again and more precisely belongs, so synonymous has the MKE400 the fan on it, but veeery "removed" is not comparable with the CAM-Micro.

As I said, with headphones, is it not so different again.



Antwort von ghost_zero:

OK.
But in principle, would you give me (in spite of fan noise) but the SD707 or recommend another?

The MKE rush more? I rather thought that there should be less noise ..?
However, it is probably synonymous depending on how high the controller into the MKE - has its own volume control so far as I have seen - is (as you yourself mentioned synonymous).



Antwort von mann:

On MKE400 you can set normal and high sensitivity, I had normal with my mini test. At high noise, it would therefore probably even more.

But I had while listening to the test clips with the headphones, the volume of the Pana to max, which would have to be taken into account in the assessment. Unfortunately, I can at the moment neither TV nor play on the PC.

At other cams I can basically say anything, but I have the Pana SD707, super class, despite a few minor drawbacks and fan or not, for, apart of usDarstellungsqualität / bar / Focal in the WW area wg think above all. manual control capability.

The Pana plus Sennheiser MKE ... I do not think I with a different combination would be better served, and what the micro is concerned: I had flirted with a Sennheiser ME66, but the thing is three times as long as the cam ..... as a horse laugh.




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