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Vergleich Canon HF100 und Sony HDR-SR11E

Comparison Canon HF100 and SonyHDR-SR11E



Frage von Ahira:
Mai 2008

Hi,

'm just very confused by the test results here:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Scharfe-Sache--- Canon HF10-and-HF100.html
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Sony-HDR-SR11-and-HDR-SR12.html
I have the Canon HF100 of the image for a better camera than the SR11-SonyHDR held.
So now I yesterday the latest edition of video, bought the m. E.doch on the same test is based, such as this website. Here is the assessment of image quality but the Sony Clear Front (85.2 / 100 gegen80, 7 / 100).

Can I ask someone from the confusion raushelfen?
(The same question I have at synonymous
http://forum.slashcam.de/scharfe-sache-canon-hf10-and-hf100-vt60038.html?highlight =
set)

Greeting
Ahira



Antwort von underdog:

I'm just like you see on the search for a new cam. I'm in the voting on the sr11, HF10 or the SD9 fallen. at least I thought until now.

youtobe to have some movies I viewed all of the above cameras and was then s.zweifeln because panasonic 3CCD with their beautiful colors is synonymous in closed rooms with normal light. in canon and sony, I could detect no difference, but sony has the advantage that de synonymous in the old mpeg format film can.

Now I am on the idea that, s.besten would re # if someone here unedited video footage of these 3 cameras available could, because then you would get the opportunity to try themselves at home.

can someone a video file (must not go long, there are already 30 to 60 seknden with bewegeung, external and internal) for Download bereistellen?



Antwort von Zizi:

Well there's really little in the internet ..
http://www.fxsupport.de/
http://www.zizis-blog.com/Camcorders.htm

I would be interested in how sharp and bright 3mos Chiper of the Panasonic are.
Otherwise, the HF100/10 clearly the best picture at the moment less than 2000 ¬!
That is quite remarkable since these already cash -100 ¬ to 670 ¬ back there!
only the austatung leaves something to be desired!
Therefore, I would picture her from minimal / barely perceptible worse Sonysr 11/12 take!
Alone because of the great and the display and Fokusrad and Other.!
On the criminal Wide Angled canon 25p mode leg and I honestly do not value me as the very jerky ..
if you have a favorable from the USA get (30p) then I would take the Canon because it is already a lot better.
HF10, I would not buy it because this really is not worth money ...
especially gibts ja sd cards even cheaper as MiniDV cassettes!
There is the internal Flahspeicher with a 40 ¬ card replaced immediately!
The Panasonic SD9 würd ich in no case take .. !








Antwort von raymaker:

"Zizi" wrote:

Otherwise, the HF100/10 clearly the best picture at the moment less than 2000 ¬!

If you restrict it to AVCHD, then yes.



Antwort von Zizi:

Well what the sharpness is concerned is no longer synonymous HDV s.sie rankommen!
Alone because of the 1440 pixels Shift.
Bin mal gespannt as the next of Canon AVCHD cams and Sony are sub-1500 ¬!
Was always slightly skeptical of what AVCHD is concerned .. But what was so s.Bildern with "cheap" camcorders hät is possible I do not expect!



Antwort von wsanw:

Hi,

I've applied to the same considerations the HF100 increased. When image comparison between the HF100 and the SR11E the differences are not so grafierend.
The reason for the purchase of the HF100 was for me:
No Drive
Manual Tonaussteuerung
But no viewfinders, the very miss.

Gruß Willi



Antwort von Zizi:

Well much of the biggest factors HF100 to buy is probably the price .. I like the picture in the Sony better synonymous if the HF100 a tick is sharper ... because I am the Wide Angleund the equipment and the value of housing Sonyum lot dear!
However, the Canon now costs less than 670 ¬ with CashBack!
The halt in Sonyist anything else better ..
Dignity but for the price Canon synonymous to draw!



Antwort von WoWu:

@ Zizi

Quote:
I would be interested in how sharp and bright 3mos Chiper of the Panasonic are.

2 Lux at 0db gain.
New micro-lens system on the chip and new American Photo color indicate a significant improvement in hope.
Furthermore, the MOS cameras with different sensors in the lens Lens mating. Sehn times what it brings.
I hope Wolfgang Bruno trunk or get a thing so soon into the hands of time ....



Antwort von Zizi:

Quote:
2 Lux at 0db gain.
New micro-lens system on the chip and new American Photo color indicate a significant improvement in hope.
Furthermore, the MOS cameras with different sensors in the lens Lens mating. Sehn times what it brings.
I hope Wolfgang Bruno trunk or get a thing so soon into the hands of time ....


Aha .. but little specialized Chinese sounds promising.
Is it worth waiting or SR11 is a little worse or HF100 =?
The focus will be unlikely to be better, or does it?
Are there more details about it?
AVCHD?, Weitwinkel?, 25p?, Noise behavior? etc. ..



Antwort von WoWu:

Hi Zizi,

I know at the time synonymous only the press release that are synonymous Slashcam the editorial staff has published.
Already a bit longer (since 2005) I know the MOS sensor development, a good push forward could mean.
Unfortunately, one of 2005 (1 / 4 ") camcorders now on the 3x 1 / 6" gone back, what a bitter pill, even though the areas of the photo sensors designed to work something greater. So what the sharpness is concerned, you really the combination of Optics (new), sensor (new) and Image editing (edges) to wait.
But MOS is very interesting, because the sensor is the advantages of CCD and CMOS includes, but not for example. the GS of CMOS.
Since the cameras are already in Japan s.Markt there, I think, you no longer have to wait that long.
But, as I said ... not uninteresting.



Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
Well what the sharpness is concerned is no longer synonymous HDV s.sie rankommen!
Alone because of the 1440 pixels Shift.


A big mistake. Download times on my blog the 1920s recordings of the HF100 down and compare it with the same time made HV20/30 shots.

Just because it is 1920, is far from synonymous really drin 1920. (Just as with a 1440 HDV Camera drin is always 1440)

Please do not misunderstand me, the HF100 is really fun, I did it so I bought myself synonymous. But to think so, I can picture it now as I know of the Bluray is a grievous mistake. The video stream of the HF100 has really technically a 1920s Picture and is the Hollywood comparable Bluray ... synonymous but I can a 20 year old VHS tape on Bluray digitizer, then that has a technical synonymous Bluray image size, but that will not synonymous considerable.

An authentic 1920s Picture it will currently only s.der 60,000 euros Camera class, beyond my economic opportunities. (Yes, synonymous an EX1 / 3 there for me no real optical signal from HDTV)



Antwort von Zizi:

What you do not say .. I've believed the
Spielberg with a HF100 his new film revolves. lol ;-)
Well this is very clear but a HF100 in sharpness but the nose before all HDV cams!
The FullHD a commercial gimmick is you only need a small Sanyo or the Panasonics look like this far away!
But the Canon uses the moment in 1920 for their size Rasta almost perfect!
A professional 70mm Cam for ¬ 100,000, it will not erstzen .. However, you need the 650 ¬ with their not expect!
But you get more money for the best Picture s.Markt!
The edge sharpness of the amateur prosumer cams with the HF100 seems hardly to be available (except Lowlight)!








Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
But the Canon uses the moment in 1920 for their size Rasta almost perfect!


if you give me this sentence again would clearly explain what you mean exactly .....



Antwort von Zizi:

Well this camera is for its size / monetary far the best and sharpest pictures under 2000 ¬ ..
I knew in this segment, no camera on it the water could be rich?
Have they now with the 1440 Canon A1 HDV Spitzencam compared and could hardly tell which is better Picture me like .. and the setback for ¬ 650, this course in terms Lowlight and service opportunities to the detriment of prosumer for their money but it comes at least in the most dangerous close to daylight even if not better!

Is the blog really of you?
If yes .. All respect because it really speaks with an expert! ;-)
Haste the SR11/12 of Sonysynonymous ever between the fingers?



Antwort von Zizi:

I would be interested in whether one of the sr11 earwig could infect without V9 adapters .. ?
and it looks like with the HF100 with manual focusing from?
Is this possible because a irgentwie rad etc, the gifts do not get!




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