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Aktuelle Sony-Cams ohne LanC: Haben die LanC in versteckter Form?

Current Sony cams without Lanc: Did the Lanc in hidden form?



Frage von Krummer Hund:
Oktober 2007

Welcome to the forum!
Because some new models of Sony Lanc Jack Without constraints, but I for some reason Lanc occasionally need is my choice for the pre-Cams!
Now I have something aufgeschnappt and would like to know the following
A. Is this for all "without Lancers" cams, flat fee?

B. Is this normal with Lanc controllers combine / adapt?

The following statement is the underlying question:

These cams without LANC jack have Lance, and in the AV-out hides.
To use a ori. Cable housings of SPK due.

I hope you can tell me something!

Thank you
The Crooked Dog



Antwort von Sten:

Hello,

what is "to use is an ori. SPK of cable housings due"?

What are SPK housing? Gibts ne this website with more info?

Gruss



Antwort von Markus:

"Krummer Dog" wrote:
These cams without LANC jack have Lance, and in the AV-out hides.

This statement I read for the first time ... but nothing should be called next.

Basically come without Lanc synonymous camcorder, for example those which are either a different control protocol, or even synonymous none. That the Lanc connection in AV-output to be hidden, my raises the question as to what meaning it had a feature that a purchase and for his argument that a higher price could justify, but to install and it should be kept secret? - Except maybe that Sonyeinen "Maintenance Access" open to what I do not think so.








Antwort von Jan:

Hello,

the Lanc jack's almost no more, the cameras are now often the remote socket (should be black) - but on the same rauskommt. Times I had a Sony Lanc Tripod with a Sony camera with the new jack, I was able to remotely control all functions.

Ok, the AV output from all models are synonymous Sony S-Video out, although there is no S-video cable is - stop buying extra VMC 15 / 30 FS & Hama 74213th

Lanc But with all models, the synonymous Cheap Heimer HC 27? I can not imagine. Have no Sony underwater housing there to look at times since.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Johannes Leistner:

Does that mean that LANC and the "new" standard (remote) are identical and only child Sonydem a new name to miss?

Would not uninteresting - especially with regard to the control of cams in underwater camera housings, or cranes.

... and yes, I can possibly be my UW housing but retain, if I shortly on a transfer SonyHD Cam ...



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

Quote:

Would not uninteresting - especially with regard to the control of cams in underwater camera housings, or cranes.

... and yes, I can possibly be my UW housing but retain, if I shortly on a transfer SonyHD Cam ...


This is exactly the idea! Only here, where I currently housing my old dive into the water, there is no SPK housing, said nothing because I can try. But such a sweet little HD-Cam, with no LANC jack, which in the old enclosure would fit!

Can the "corner test" not even begin to list the Cam Lance --- "then" with trick yes "to be able to offer?
;-)
I hope so, hopefully not wrong!



Antwort von Johannes Leistner:

"Jan" wrote:
Hello,

times had a Sony Lanc Tripod with a Sony camera with the new jack, I was able to remotely control all functions.
Jan


Question: Where did you the needed time to take the new socket to be able to use and where did you the occupancy, tried?
Krummer dog



Antwort von Oburs:

"Anonymous" wrote:
Question: Where did you the needed time to take the new socket to be able to use and where did you the occupancy, tried?
Krummer dog

... is this another time?
Then it was not with the old boxes ...



Antwort von Krummer4 hund:

"Anonymous" wrote:
"Anonymous" wrote:
Question: Where did you the needed time to take the new socket to be able to use and where did you the occupancy, tried?
Krummer dog

... is this another time?
Then it was not with the old boxes ...


Well, back to The Roots:
"These cams without LANC jack have Lance, and in the AV-out hides.
To use a ori. Cable housings of SPK due. "

So, in other words interest s.dem issue is not just for me, has only keioner vorbeigeschaut, which already has a closer look, it seems to me!
I will after SPK Housing nem watch and then report back.
Maybe I ask Sonysynonymous times directly, because then what protocol is installed, and how possibly to adapt is / would be, maybe ....!



Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
"These cams without LANC jack have Lance, and in the AV-out hides.
To use a ori. Cable housings of SPK due. "


Is this message from 1 April?



Antwort von thos-berlin:

Nee proboscis, which may already be true. I have a small Panasonic GS11. As is my cable remote s.die AV jack adapter ....



Antwort von ruessel:

Quote:
As is my cable remote s.die AV jack adapter ....

Re-learned .... I have some Sony camera switching plans, so far has been AV-Out and Lanc separate output of the electronics ....








Antwort von Oburs:

"thos-berlin" wrote:
Nee proboscis, which may already be true. I have a small Panasonic GS11. As is my cable remote s.die AV jack adapter ....


This is synonymous with my Pana GS 200 so ... - But you have to use this Bucjse but in the menu.

For my 2 SonyDVs is a separate but LANC jack.

I have 2 questions:
1. how is that in the current models (HC 1 / HC 7 and FX 7)?

2. how does the "remote control" of certain functions (eg Kamerakran or UW housing) at the Cams without LANC?
The trend in UW housings is clearly off of expensive custom built with mechanical handling, towards universal housings with LANC control.
Canon, for example, has disqualified himself on this, since they function in the current HD Cams not offer, because a HV 20 with LANC would be an ideal cam for underwater. For HV 10, there is exactly one vendor with mechanical handling ...
So this leaves you (if synonymous quite small) market, the HC fight 7th ..



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

Ok, I'm not really a lot of next, but now I definitely know that cie CX6 / 7 in a SPK fits, and thus can be controlled remotely somehow is: "Put it in the Audio / Fernsteuerstecker into the A / V or A / V-out http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3097873211.pdf
http://www.sony.de/view/ShowProduct.action?product=SPK-HCC&productsku=SPKHCC.CE8&site=odw_de_DE&pageType=Compatibles&imageType=Main&category=CAC + Sports + Pack # tab
Where is now (sony says Natural "No", does not) to know what the handling of this case for a protocol used for?
Who has ne idea?
:-)



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

here it is even clearer:
http://pdf.crse.com/manuals/3097874111.pdf



Antwort von Oburs:

I guess that it was still around the LANC - protocol, except that not all control commands are processed, but only the "most important", ie Start / Stop and Zoom possibly, and that the whole only in the camera, and not in the player mode.



Antwort von Oburs:

In the description of this case but is not it, that it is synonymous for the CX6 / 7 is intended. On the Sony site but it is compatible products under the CX ...
What is now?



Antwort von Oburs:

Hello,

sounds interesting!

I think only someone who has such an enclosure, aknn further information, or to try ....

gruss



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I guess that it was still around the LANC - protocol, except that not all control commands are processed, but only the "most important", ie Start / Stop and Zoom possibly, and that the whole only in the camera, and not in the player mode.


Somewhere I have (for the full descriptions) read, the switch of VCR and Camera in MEMORY is possible.
And times like this I go from the CX6 / 7 is compatible, the pdf's are a time before the CX and finished in the offer was!

If there is another with his cabinet?
At the moment I would be most advantageous CX7 can achieve next week someone is flying via Dubai, because it lies at around 1100th --



Antwort von Oburs:

"Krummer Dog" wrote:
... And I do believe times the CX6 / 7 is compatible, the pdf's are a time before the CX and finished in the offer was!

If there is another with his cabinet?
At the moment I would be most advantageous CX7 can achieve next week someone is flying via Dubai, because it lies at around 1100th --


... "I go from times like this ..." is a bad advisor - frag doch mal Mediasaturnoderwasweißich in a market to see if such a thing to have there - then look to see whether there somewhere or something like LANC REMOTE dransteht.
It is conceivable that the LANC s.dieser Cam omitted (see above relating to next CANON). In the descriptions in any case he is not there.



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

That the CX Lanc socket not have known, that is why I have not bought in Dubai!
The "I do believe" refers to the sony website, the SPK and under Compatible Cams CX6 and the other HD's expliziet mentioned (see the next link above).
The post was in relation to the current in the downloadable pdf's not mentioned is because the pdf's are older than the cx-Model!
Dubai is about half denser than any media market, at least for me!
And the CX6 / 7 have an A / V out, much is synonymous fixed.
But ne nice idea, who sacrifices time and goes to his MediaMarkt, tomorrow is saturday!
:-)
Krummer dog








Antwort von Jan:

I am still not entirely clear which of the one is supplied AV cables into the UW Male connector housing to be inserted (rot.weiss or yellow?) Or is the UW as a cable box of SonyAV to 2.5 mm jack for?

In the end it brings you nothing, unless there is an adapter cable of SonyAV to 2.5 mm jack extra to buy there. So just so interesting
SonyUW housing for the owners.

Some new models have the black remote socket, since my Lanc Tripod SonyVCT RM 680-D jack fully recognized, it is strongly assumed that he is identical with Lanc. Why now the black jack? - Sony because you'll have questions.

VG
Jan



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

"Jan" wrote:
I am still not entirely clear which of the one is supplied AV cables into the UW Male connector housing to be inserted (rot.weiss or yellow?) Or is the UW as a cable box of SonyAV to 2.5 mm jack for?


I am not entirely clear whether I understand your question now!
The Spk's have s.der logically control the cable with the required times in the socket of the elected Cam fits. What is not Lanc!

Quote:
In the end it brings you nothing, unless there is an adapter cable of SonyAV to 2.5 mm jack extra to buy there. So just so interesting
SonyUW housing for the owners.


Therefore, perhaps the addition of my "information source" (which is unfortunately no further details enlocken leaves) "Genuine SPK-cable of a case is necessary" to get this adapter to build itself!

Quote:
Some new models have the black remote socket, since my Lanc Tripod SonyVCT RM 680-D jack fully recognized, it is strongly assumed that he is identical with Lanc. Why now the black jack? - Sony because you'll have questions.


I believe that the remote socket just a different / new expression for the LANC jack! (Remote-lance, remote control via cable, it is called .... but synonymous, right?) So next is not surprising that the fits and works.
But Lanc on A / V Out and modified (s) Male / female is still the question.

The Resolutionliegt I really s.Herzen, I'm just far too much of his cabinet SPK-away, there's not even for the ne Cybershot (which would be synonymous not help)



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

The remote socket, we can probably leave out 8:
"LANC jack and Control-L jack
The Control-L jack is a Sony development. Nowadays this is called a jack LANC jack, while s.den Sony camcorder models s.dieser jack Remote dransteht often synonymous. "

Interestingly synonymous:

"Previously, there was this jack in 5-pin circuit as a mini-DIN is similar to the Hosidenbuchse. Today there is the LANC jack than 2.5 mm mini jack to three-design. Between old and new book, there are standard adapter with no restrictions in terms of functionality "

Perhaps it is then yes something synonymous to find current A / V Out

Quotes from:
http://www.videoforum.de/fs.htm?/bericht/remote/remote.htm



Antwort von Oburs:

@ Krummer dog
... and who has told you now the flea in his ear set that sA / V out Fernsteuerbefehle a la Panasonic can source here? Could it be that you have different camera manufacturers durcheinanderbringst (only as an idea) - or why should Sony2 different standards develop? - Yes especially the current A / V Out s.den SonyCams quite different than a mini-jack Male ...



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

"Anonymous" wrote:
@ Krummer dog
... and who has told you now the flea in his ear set that sA / V out Fernsteuerbefehle a la Panasonic can source here? Could it be that you have different camera manufacturers durcheinanderbringst (only as an idea) - or why should Sony2 different standards develop? - Yes especially the current A / V Out s.den SonyCams quite different than a mini-jack Male ...


The A / V out Fernsteuerbefehle a la Panasonic can source here is a fact, who can read (or would be synonymous only an idea!) Very easy to find the appropriate (even of me), quoted passages from the original's SonyPdf to SPK cases.
And those who continue to look, for instance, the CX6 and 7 ONLY A / V OUT connector as possible, that will probably be synonymous someday accept as a given, right?

And I use different camera manufacturers get confused, is my current obsession with Sony (just because Lanc!) Quite unimaginable. Especially since I have a statement of (for me) fairly trustworthy person who is "something more" with the SonyVideocampalette know, as fleeting remark, in relation to my problem with the CX7 and NO Lance, received. Unfortunately, further inquiries will have been treated with silence.

And believe me, if I so SPK-housing in the fingers do, I will be synonymous out whether the signals from the SPK-control, the holding on an A / V Male s.die Cam will be disclosed, the Lanc signals correspond or not!
Unlikely, I think the whole have no idea if the synonymous "Ausgelutschtheit" (Dissemination / replicas) of the protocols (controls) just for something new, Lizenzgebührfähigem for Sonyruft! Similar to the Battery Switch-Model-regulated in the rhythm.
"For widespread change, we stop something"



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

"Anonymous" wrote:
@ Krummer dog
... and who has told you now the flea in his ear set that sA / V out Fernsteuerbefehle a la Panasonic can source here? Could it be that you have different camera manufacturers durcheinanderbringst (only as an idea) - or why should Sony2 different standards develop? - Yes especially the current A / V Out s.den SonyCams quite different than a mini-jack Male ...


This reminds me of what a still:
Eben, Lanc if not more, but A / V OUT demonstrably remote transmits signals, THEN Sony2 would have different standards!
They have just developed a new design for a connection, which is holding Multifunktionsfähig.
And that was Lanc but always synonymous:
Rein received remote control commands, out came the DV information (time code) for external Sony devices.
;-)



Antwort von Jan:

Although I am fairly well with the familiar consumer cameras, I am so far with the SPK housings little busy - I will too. The demand is very low synonymous.

In the PDF file SonySPK is talk of an AV cable - so the 10 pin of Sonydas in another cable in the housing is connected - what is it now for a cable, 2.5 mm mini-jack or what?

Sony10 pole? - Yes there were still seats available, signal CVBS, S-video and 2x sound is ever safe - that is, 10 pin transfer.

Although we have here but freaks cable, S-video but needs just 4 - if I remember rightly, chroma, and Lumminanz mass 2x, then Sound and CVBS signal .....

I have such a case in hand, otherwise I will not come next ..

VG
Jan



Antwort von munichflo:

The mass signals for everything so you can merge. Then remain 2x S-Video, 1x composite, 2x Audio are 6 poles with mass. Then you have another 4 square, for example, Lanc ..



Antwort von Krummer Hund:

"Anonymous" wrote:
The mass signals for everything so you can merge. Then remain 2x S-Video, 1x composite, 2x Audio are 6 poles with mass. Then you have another 4 square, for example, Lanc ..


This I believe is now synonymous, especially Sonydas entire AV Multi-called

Ok, I'm "moved" with this thread, to the Sony-compartment:
http://forum.slashcam.de/hier-klicken-vp251696.html#251696

I found it somewhat confusing and was hoping for more targeted!
I hope it is not too much to ask, you ask, where to next post!
Thank you
Krummer dog








Antwort von Peter06:

I have now I do not read everything because I have little time.
in short: yes, Lance is at your own sony 10 pin AV connector.
if you need the exact polbelegung, I can give you.



Antwort von Markus:

"Peter06" wrote:
... sony av own 10-pin connector.

Oh yes ...

And I was of the classic consumer AV RCA connectors into execution. No wonder that the idea to me, as could still synonymous Lanc drinstecken (aufmoduliert on one of the signals?), Seemed completely absurd.

Always these compact camcorders with its modest special cable Chen! * grrr *



Antwort von Jan:

Now we are still in question, how do you want the cable "tap" to s.Ende to 2.5 mm to comment?

VG
Jan



Antwort von Markus:

The cable is not enough signal lines, so it is not enough, the end and new aufzuschneiden Male + 2.5 mm jack to dranmachen want.



Antwort von pizpat:

"Peter06" wrote:
I have now I do not read everything because I have little time.
in short: yes, Lance is at your own sony 10 pin AV connector.
if you need the exact polbelegung, I can give you.


I would very tightened interest ...

o.hansen1 ätt gmx dot net

thank you ever!

Oli



Antwort von Peter06:

1) Audi L
2) Lanc Sig
3) S. Gnd (S-Video)
4) DC Lanc
5) SC (S-Video)

6) Audio R
7) Jack AD
8) Video / Audio GND
9) Video In / Out
10) SY (S-Video)



Antwort von Jan:

Oh Graus, which I did not know ......

VCT 60 AV

About the AV jack, you can remotely control, actually all cameras with the new SonyAV times ......

Tripod VCT 80 Av's still synonymous.

VG
Jan



Antwort von sepia:

Can I use this with Sony LANC via multi AV synonymous in the DVR mode? Eg with an external camera AV s.multi which also depends on taking?



Antwort von Jan:

This would probably be just a cable tinker with - if that is possible.

Lanc protocol, it is not, but my Sony 10 pin connector.

You want a cable between the 2 cameras stuck without Fernsteuereinheit?

VG
Jan








Antwort von Horsti:

Hello,

at the following link provides an adapter of 10pol. to the LANC want but 99 euros for it

http://www.hgvt.de/shop/shop.php?mode=show_detail&lang=de&group=22&id=87&sid=3490a6ac90be886a06fa221405da7bc4



Antwort von Jan:

Yes Video Active was widely reported as synonymous, I was surprised that it is so easy ....

VG
Jan



Antwort von Fridu:

For the SonyPMW-EX1 There are now two other remote controls to the 10-pin Male already tuned out of house have:

Manfrotto Remote Control 521 EX
and
Remote Control LIBEC ZC-9EX

Both with the EX because it specifically to the PMW-EX1 needs. In my opinion, of the functions of the Manfrotto her better, so someone has experience, would like to see that such a purchase.

Fritz



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Fridu" wrote:
... For the SonyPMW-EX1 There are now two other remote controls to the 10-pin Male already tuned out of house have ...

Does the EX1 because the same 10-pin remote connection like the little camcorder? Can I honestly do not quite believe it. There is still at least a third remote control designed specifically for the EX: Zoe-Ex Of Bebob.

Gruß Bernd E.




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