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Frage von Ronsker:


Dear USER ...

I have a huge problem. I took in August, the SonyDCR-HC47E bought, it is not 2 months old.

I have just come back from holiday and am of the quality of the images when viewing now completely shocked ...

Once the light conditions are slightly worse (no preference whether night, dusk or normal light bulbs in the hotel hallways, hotel rooms, in an airplane or similar), the picture begins to deteriorate extremely. As soon as one enters a building and no natural sunlight is available, gehts los ...

And you can see that not only the recordings s.PC, but already s.seitlich extended display of the Camera:
- The speed is slowing down (almost like slow motion)
- A tightening synonymous with the very slow panning is to see
- The Picture wobbles, shakes and severely verpixelt

As I said, you can see already on the display, synonymous with no tape in it. Thought that only bad s.ne cartridge.
In nice weather (I say times of sunshine or natural daylight) is ok and the picture is top ...
Aber sonst .. totally unusable. Worse than a cell phone video.

I use the normal automatic image adjustment (Focus etc.) at the Camera. No manual settings (EASY CAM settings).
Have nothing changed. Can not find anything but synonymous with the settings, which could resolve the problem.

Apart from the fact that many recordings now are for the trash, I wonder whether the camera is defective, or whether I have something else set.

I hope you can help me ... PLEASE!
For me wedding soon s.and I need a working camera.

Many greetings
RONNY

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Antwort von marginal:

I do not actually believe that your camera is defective.
In this price range you can not expect too good Lowlightfähigkeiten. This has two reasons: firstly, is your sensor with 1 / 6 "is only slightly larger than a matchstick head and therefore can not capture a lot of light and also adds that in this price segment, the cameras often synonymous nor an unreasonable Photo which function. This brings then on the already small sensor again unnecessarily and many small pixels with itself and starts the whole thing in the twilight properly rushing.
It remains only one thing: return Camera (s.besten to 1 / 3 "without photo function) or make more light

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Antwort von Markus73:

"Ronsker" wrote: I have a huge problem. I took in August, the SonyDCR-HC47E bought, it is not 2 months old.

I have just come back from holiday and am of the quality of the images when viewing now completely shocked ...

Once the light conditions are slightly worse (no preference whether night, dusk or normal light bulbs in the hotel hallways, hotel rooms, in an airplane or similar), the picture begins to deteriorate extremely. [...]


Even when it's in your description sounds rather extreme, but basically is in the simpler models normally.

Lowlight The problem generally begins upon entering of buildings. What you write here (night, twilight ....") are already more extreme conditions, where even professional equipment no more really good pictures right.

Without the HC47 ever used it, but according to the assessments and test images should have no place in the very poor class.

Maybe you have too high expectations? Without sufficient light, there's not a good video.

You should test again in peace do some test shots to set the device to know better: With good room lighting or zBsSchreibtisch under the lamp, it should be possible to produce images herzeigbare.

Anything beyond, requires a much higher burden s.Technik and Money. Alternative: To make more light.

Gruß,
Markus

PS A post goes, have only just noticed that it was the same there again.

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Antwort von wimaria:

"Anonymous" wrote: Camera exchange (s.besten to 1 / 3 "without photo function) ...
The best 2/3-inch;)

The problem with many consumer cameras is synonymous is totally unsinigge Gain Gepusche in lowlight (= high image noise). In addition, a lot of work that you should invest the whole Blödel automatic auszutricksen. The best manual ever. Since then often left with not much left as Aperture = open + max. 6 db gain, so that the picture is not too noisy. Is that not what most be the case, the only remaining head light out put.
Otherwise please do not expect too much of consumer Digis.

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Antwort von ronsei:

I see as synonymous, a gain of 6 db, which is> 2 aperture brings the already existing noise for consumer cameras only really nice to apply what the Studio can do pretty worthless.
But you should mention that synonymous cameras in this price segment, a light sensitivity that is approximately 1600 ASA corresponds with analog films. However, there were shots in low light synonymous accordingly from noisy and grainy. In Digiknipsen the problem quite easily circumvented: a small flash Chen switches for the auto add a Picture and already sees the matter quite differently.

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Antwort von Susi Sauer:

Hello!
I wanted me eigneltich synonymous to Sonydcr hc47 buy.
Especially I was fascinated of the Bildtstabilisator and the compact design.
In this price category (300 ¬), I have found nothing better synonymous. The Canon camcorder in
this price range are compact änhlich but I seemed to Image Stabilization
schlechechter much more than with the hc47.

But now I read here of catastrophic picture in the dark.
How bad is it? there are screenshots somewhere where you can see the times?
Although I have not before filming in the dark but often with artificial light (eg disco / concert-like lighting)
How is the picture quality in dark Comparison Hi8 to older models?

I know that in the price category with 3CCD cameras compare. but it would be very interesting
times when someone had a picture where I can see how the images look like.

Thank you

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Susi Sauer" wrote: ... would be very interesting times when someone had a picture where I can see how the images look like
www.videoaktiv.de/content/view/991/57/

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Markus73:

Hello,

"Susi Sauer" wrote:
How is the picture quality in dark Comparison Hi8 to older models?

Thanks Megapixelwahn most consistently worse overall than before.

Quote: I know that in the price category with 3CCD cameras compare.
Hm, 3CCD affects the color and image sharpness, but not necessarily in the weak light behavior. The cheap 3-Chipper of Panasonic in low light are not synonymous champion.

Regards,
Markus

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Antwort von ronsei:

thanks for the quick reply.
aud the video images vn active but now I see bichts catastrophic? (missing me a professional eye to judge something to be nor is the picture in the dark really ok?)

above was a bit of max. 6 db gain gschrieben true also for the hc47 to?

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Compare the Lowlight pictures with those of other camcorders, which are then tested. On some models Matscher colors to gray mush faster, while others can still be lots of details and even something as recognize colors.

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Antwort von cisco-2k:

Hello,
I am a newbie and I know with all the data is not enough.
I had recently completed a SonyHC 47 and have recently completed my grandparents' golden wedding filmed. The film played in Innenberreich, ie in the apartment in not so good light conditions. My picture was anything but s.rauschen on the contrary I had a clean and very good aschend Picture.
I had a relatively synonymous, because my father has filmed the wedding synonymous (synonymous Sony) and the Picture was an unreasonable demand (Textures and faded like a bad TV reception in the snow Picture). Had only bad luck in the Model Is me two times I left out broken than I dei Cam s.PC have connected, now I ordered the Panasonic 320 hope to make good pictures so synonymous in the interior.

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Antwort von ronsei:

@ cisco-2k

times but it sounds much better than all the other miserable peter :-)

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Antwort von Peter S.:

Your "error description indicates an extremely slow exposure time. Could be that a manual setting with a much better picture quality can bring out. On my Panasonic MX-500, there is an additional feature ColorNightShot", with the significantly longer exposure time is working. This is done night recording substantially colorful, moving objects are blurred, but as in your description.
MFG Peter

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Unfortunately, when people still misbelief do not need a video light. This comes from the times when you when a chemical film ISO100 and shutter speed 1 / 50 usually saw nothing when you shady interiors photographed / filmed. On VIDEO one could see anything. But between RECOGNIZE and aesthetic Picture is now but a huge difference.

Everyone must cameraman in susceptible minds desöfteren light for his head to justify. You will often hear phrases like "Here it is bright enough ....". But it is not. Not for nothing are in studios and on film sets with lights trains several kilowatts s.Start.

And with a target size of 1 / 6 inch of your intake sensor should generally not expect night.

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Antwort von Martin Berner:

I have now for the test will provide a SonyHC21 of a known test. Since I was with the low-light quality throughout zufireden. White jemadn whether the HC47 worse / equal / better than the HC21 in low light is?

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Antwort von Granny S.:

Hello
Consumer cameras are light with values <5> 2000 lux required. Click on the light. Without it not.
mfG Eggerder

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Martin Berner" wrote: HC21 ... ... Since I was with the low-light quality throughout zufireden ... HC47 worse / equal / better than the HC21 in low-light ...?
If you believe the tests that the HC21 a completely terrible Lowlight-quality offers, the HC47 can only be better ;-) gleichwinzige Since both sensors have the HC21 but fewer pixels that must be accommodated, there is still a presumption that they are always still remains a touch better than the HC47. Thus for both: film on sunny days s.Strand restrict or force inside light on.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Pommesfett:

So what if it helps:

Here are screenshots of what a video with an HC21 (NTSC Version) in artificial / low light environments (concert) was filmed:

http://img144.imageshack.us/my.php?image=31115347ol3.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10506266cf5.jpg
http://img118.imageshack.us/my.php?image=88246753fo5.jpg

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Antwort von Peter06:

possible fix: NOT, and NEVER NEVER EasyModus in the film. This is rubbish. Probably there was the ColorSlowShutter enabled.
Without Easy mode is synonymous Cam has an automatic, but is much better and if necessary can be manual adjusted.
As can be something in the picture according to his wish.

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