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Frage von stonecutter:


Hello,

So I (or friend of me) has the following problem: In 1.5 APP is a film from raw data be cut, which originate from different camera. Once a consumer cam with 4:3 and the other a Semiprofesionnelle Cam records in 16:9.
The Project has 16:9 setting, but merkwüdiger as the host of 16:9 Cam distorted (stretched into the Height), the 4:3 pictures but fit. However, in project settings 16:9?

Now vllt. yes can you give me help in my confusion.

Something else. I think it would be the best, before cutting the raw data to a common format to make it? Final product, a standard DVD's. Shall I now the 4:3 images to 16:9 bring, or vice versa? What is easier?

1000 Thanks in advance

Stone Cutter

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Antwort von joerg-emil:

Hi stone cutter,

Well ... because you will probably have no other choice than the 16:9 movie to 4:3 to cut .... if it is a semi-Camera is 16:9, I assume that it is true 16: 9 involved. If you do this to 4:3 circumcision, you should be in comparison to your other recordings 4:3 Have a similar resolution. Circumcision you 4:3 to 16:9 it is not so. The already reduced Resolutionvon 4:3 is indicated by the pruning again reduced. As expected the resolution difference at each Umschnitt extremely noticeable.

Whether the 16:9 movie to 4:3 trimmed looks good, however, on another sheet of picture content .... you have to adopt anyway, whether left or right and above and below ...

Gruß Jörg-Emil

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Antwort von Alex_HH:

Could the 4:3 material is not synonymous somehow "stretch", as the HD Television with 4:3 broadcasts do? Is there a tool in the editing software (Vegas with me)?

Sure, the Resolutionleidet, but perhaps somewhat synonymous depends on how the shares are s.den both formats. With only 10-20% 4:3 material so it would be a shame if you 80-90% cuts.

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Antwort von joerg-emil:

Hi Alex,

the lines can be almost any video software, just so you move the proportions of synonymous, then see all the thick or even thicker from there .... it can not be so now ... Do you have video footage of various grades or sizes, the target format only the lowest common denominator of his ... and that is in this case nunmal 4:3. I give you right to the 4:3 recording only a fraction of the total material costs, then you can try synonymous the 4:3 material to 16:9 to get, but even here I would rather the left and right a black bar in Purchase take, as with any Streckereien rum or pruned to play ....

Gruß Jörg-Emil

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Antwort von Alex_HH:

Hello Emil,

certainly looks simple "lines" from doof. But the Television zoom but somehow synonymous "disproportionately" on, so it m. E. is not quite as noticeable.

This is probably a matter of taste, whether both of the disturbance.

Start a great week everyone!

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Antwort von stonecutter:

So I "just prune the 16:9 recordings, that I feel a little left and right have lost ... and then finally a 4:3 project?

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Antwort von joerg-emil:

yep, that would be my opinion, the cleanest option. I do not like in your program works. With the Magix works as follows:

1) Create a new movie format with the aim to create, so movie settings 4:3

2) films in the timeline set, taking into account the 16:9 movies with black bars above and below the 4:3 and full screen movies displayed.

3) With the function "image" in the 16:9 shooting a nice 4:3 select sector. This need not always be centered, so here you can image after the cut-free content to the left and right. After applying this function are synonymous, the original full screen 16:9 movies with the selected 4:3 cutout shown.

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Antwort von Wotan:

Hi!
4x3 If you want to zoom in on 16x9, you will s.besten Picture of the top and bottom trim and then aufzoomen them. The formula is roughly 2 / 3 and bottom 1 / 3 above weggescnitten. So of the 576 line would have about 50 of the top and bottom 100 of his.
How you manage that with Vegas, I am unfortunately not synonymous ;-) Should not be a problem.

Good luck!

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Antwort von DenisTheMenace:

I once had the same problem. I was the other way round. I had mostly 16:9 recordings. these were anamorphic. as for you. Therefore, the image synonymous squashed. laterally. not stretched in the height as you believe it. meaning. that resolution is the same vertical resolution as in 4:3. this anamorphic material is then of DVD player, etc. in a horizontal resolution of 720x567 to 1028x567 stretched.

if you but 4:3 material above and below the black bar pixelganau missed it and need to enlarge it s.das 16:9 material to adapt, you lose 163 lines! (because you have a resolution of 576x405 searched). And this difference in resolution is clearly visible. with the bar and staggered hochskalierte material looks really blurred!

if you consider that normal HD material (ie, not full-HD) 144 pictures just line has more than SD, and yet it appears noticeably sharper, you can imagine what it means 163 to have fewer rows. and the SD will have even more impact (because the percentage is greater), as would be the HD line pull.

mein tipp: synonymous when 16:9 "cool" looks loht it is not, the visual information loss in purchasing it. 16:9 prune thy side, after you've stretched it horizontally (to what is worth programmabhägig depending on what parameters it relates) to 4:3.

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Antwort von nicecam:

Yes, ich geb's zu.
[list] [list] [list] [list] I too have sinned! [/ list: u: 6266e39e10] [/ list: u: 6266e39e10] [/ list: u: 6266e39e10] [/ list: u: 6266e39e10] I namely filmed some time ago with my 2 cameras, but have different formats.
[list] 1 Camera Canon HV-20 HDV in quality and also 16:9 filmed
2. Camera Sony3CCD VX 1E (Hi8) - Can only 4:3 [/ list: u: 6266e39e10] It was a wedding, but my decision, my first camera as either the Canon XH-A1 or SonyFX 1000 zuzulegen had not yet fallen , and of this one event I could not dependent on my decision making. Moreover, no other intelligent camera to obtain

Synonymous I know that it would have been better with the AGM-20 and 4:3 in the DV to film, but I did not.

The Hi8 camera was the beginning of s.nur for a quick cut to counter, so I can operate in extreme synonymous Wide Anglemit davorgeschaltetem wideangle converter.

However, I have already seen that I Camera Picture this longer look will show them.

It is here agreed that in such cases probably only a 4:3 project in question. So I shall proceed synonymous.

The material of the HV-20, I play as HDV On - no Downkonvert by the camera or through the software before Rausrendern, because I think it is the quality loss when Aufzoomen s.geringsten. I see that right? The Hi8 material is over my Canopus ADVC 300 recorded. Then I both DV-AVI as synonymous MPEG-material in the timeline, but that should probably not be a problem.

Some questions I have:

"joerg-emil" wrote: ... With the Magix works as follows:

1) Create a new movie format with the aim to create, so movie settings 4:3

2) films in the timeline set, taking into account the 16:9 movies with black bars above and below the 4:3 and full screen movies displayed.

3) With the function "image" in the 16:9 shooting a nice 4:3 select sector. This need not always be centered, so here you can image after the cut-free content to the left and right. After applying this function are synonymous, the original full screen 16:9 movies with the selected 4:3 cutout shown.

I currently work with MAGIX VDL 2007 Plus.

@ Joerg-emil
With "image" do you think is likely to function in Story Maker?

It was so synonymous over the dialog window "image size and position." And since I have the following question: If I now have a 4:3-Project was created, and the 16:9-movie in the timeline is, in the dialog window "image size and position values displayed the following: top left image in 720 x 432 pixels, the bottom right under section 1440 x 1080th Zoom I'm now left of the top 432 to 576 will maintain the proportions of 720 course 960 pixels, the values of the bottom right of changing course not. If I but now the Story Maker and then go to the 4:3-excerpt provides, then see the values under "image size and position as follows: top left 720x576, but right below excerpt 1080x1080.
Maybe a dummy question, but is the (qualitative) result is the same? I see in the preview no difference.

Since I still have a little problem understanding

Gruß Johannes

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