Infoseite // DV tape twice / multiple discs?



Frage von Addie:


Hi,

I admit edited HDV video s.Ende again with Edius 4pro to tape out.

Can I take the tape again, which I used to shoot them? Actually, it means yes, DV tapes recorded only once, right?
But if I had a cassette recording test even 3 - or 4 times with the HV20 recorded, it was even. Quality loss in Picture and Sound, I could at least on my old tube TV not determine, but not synonymous perused the entire film, because if errors occur.

Every time a new cartridge is then naturally higher excise cassettes. Okay, the world of under-10s in the pack are the Sony premium not so crazy expensive, but I thought I frag mal ... Or there are other tapes, which can be better? Or always new? What have you done for experience?

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

Sub-quality point of view the tapes, you can easily use several times in practice I would not do it yet: The possibility of the original raw material to be archived, it is important to me than two euros per cartridge to save money. Who knows how to's can still do.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Addie:

Yes, that's true already, I thought drüber synonymous. Let's see.

But it happens no errors / omissions or other image? Or more than the 1 Recording, you can always happen ...?

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Antwort von thsturm:

The number of drop-outs will be after 3 to 4 times certainly extremely increase.
When you consider that a Digibeta after 6-7x the error correction has to work properly, you should MiniDV certainly no more than 2x over to play ... the ¬ 2 should be worth it to you;) ..

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Antwort von Markus73:

"Anonymous" wrote: The number of drop-outs will be after 3 to 4 times certainly extremely increase.
I can not confirm. It is with me, not the norm, but for testing purposes, I have some tapes or portions of it surely has played 10 times and had it out and just drop like a one-time only use of a band (ie do not).

Gruß,
Markus

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Antwort von WoWu:

... this is synonymous matter whether you HDV1 or HDV2 do, because HDV2 because of the higher bandwidth and the PES instead of a TS less error protection implemented .... When HDV is 2 shall be limited only to the "striping".
Incidentally, since I can confirm Mark's observation .... no change in Mehrfachbespielung.
BTW .... Long-term storage is synonymous not really good because .... so impossible it may sound synonymous, but the Metalloxys begins s.den particle peaks s.zu rust .... So swirl out and back (about 2 years) to new cassette is nothing wrong with archival material ...

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Antwort von Johannes:

That I had to unfortunately find synonymous. When you play on
of 3 tapes had the 2nd which is only 3 months in the cupboard was extremely
many dropouts. No idea how that occurred. On the player and s.der Camera
it has aufgenohmen can not lie.

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Antwort von Addie:

Long-term archiving, only 2 years?

What a crap, I always thought the digital tapes hold up much longer forever.
The question arises, what is the finished HDV projects saves ...
[list] - on the tape's seemingly only temporary limiert.
- HD-DVD/BluRay is still in its infancy / too expensive. And if the storage capacity of DVDs so committed, so this is not synonymous storage times better, or? They are but partially after months already over. Or are there different HD-DVDs/BluRay-Discs of the material come from?
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Will probably only the final. M2t project to external hard drive ...?

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Antwort von WoWu:

.. no, no, that is not that the tapes only for so long, but they also begin to produce dropouts. Therefore, systems and algorithms, with the powerful data protection are of course preferable to those who do not have. We should just not forget that iron particles is synonymous altern ... DVD's and whether there is a better medium is still questionable. But this question is even with the big networks still remain unanswered. NBC eg plays all archival material on a real transcoding to MPEG2 and probably future MPEG4 HD material on ... in MXF container. ... but this is just the format ... a carrier decision there is not yet synonymous fallen.
ZDF has a few years ago, everything on DVCPro to play. All have in common is that it is data that you can transcode without decoding. Some broadcasters are experimenting with data tapes .... but none has a real and final decision ....
So what helps: Tape copy every few years and look what is still there and save in a codec with a "send thick Reed-Solomon" it has .. patent because the solution is not yet in sight.

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Antwort von Johannes:

Irgen where I read the big companies your data (backup)
synonymous to a special memory tape but totally synonymous expensive
be
Also on the DVD's I have heard that they on average 4-5 years.
And 2 years is a long time. What is it with the VHS Video from what I have to lie around the sindt locker 10 years old and they can all still see no problems.

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Antwort von WoWu:

.. So if it is really an extended archiving creates, I would simply synonymous cartridges packed in vacuum bags and vacuum sealed them synonymous (vacuum). Ultimately belongs to rust so synonymous still oxygen and water ... Not for nothing are the huge warehouse and film archives with extremely dry air kept ...
But I think the main problem is that one day no longer has players ... denk s.die just 8 mm films or tapes s.Video8 ... as if no player with archived, it will fail .... who still has turntables for shellac disks? Perhaps that is synonymous the secret is the material time in the new time to save over ...

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Antwort von Addie:

Hm, if my son 18 months old movies, of course, it would be cool if he was all in 20 or 30 years or more synonymous still could easily see.

Does it make a difference - like DVDs - where I store the tapes? Some in dark, dry room at 20 ° C or so?

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Antwort von Addie:

Okay, Wolfgang was faster ...

Hm, if I remember that the slides of my father from the 60s still look great ...

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Antwort von Markus:

"Addie" wrote: Does it make a difference [...] where I store the tapes?
Yes, this makes a difference. The tapes should be None directly exposed to solar radiation. Also on the heater or in a magnetic field of a TV or speaker, they should not be stored. Once a year, on the other Page rewinding helps crosstalk and gluing together layers of tape should be avoided. Too moist, it should not be synonymous, since otherwise the tape faster zusammenklebt. Also dirt and dust should be removed.

The only hints at the fast.

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