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DV auf DVD - Besser als DivX und Co?

DV to DVD - Better than DivX and Co?



Frage von Vaido:
September 2007

Hello,

after a long pause, I get curious myself again with my MiniDV camcorder and even cut videos to employ.

Here I am again on a problem that I previously had and which I now once and for all would like to solve: the archiving of my films.

Initially, I have all my videos after cutting of DV into MPEG2 for SVCD converted and then burned onto CDs. Unfortunately I had to find that the SVCDs after 2 years, despite very careful handling is no longer optimal s.PC read Liese (read, etc.)
I then with XVID, DIVX and WMV playing around, but was never of the quality very excited, and of my SVCDs synonymous, I was never really convinced.

I have already in the forum a little leisure, and noticed that many recommend the videos to MiniDV or DV material on hard disks for archiving. For my ambitions would be exaggerated. I would simply cut my finished films in a best Qaulität to a secure medium. I do not intend to it again later to edit.

Now I am pushed to Nero Vision, with the videos man, no preference which output format to PAL-compatible DVD can store. Apart from the fact that DVDs synonymous probably only have a limited lifetime, it seems to me this is a very good solution. If I 60min, ie 1 DV cassette on a 4.5 GB disc can store, have the quality but very good.

Now a specific question: Is such a backup / archiving to DVD a better and simpler solution than XVID and Co?
Are there differences in these programs (such as Nero Vision) regarding the quality of the finished videos? Which program can you recommend? I need not elaborate menus, etc., it's me in the first place to ensure quality.

Greetings and thanks in advance,
Vaido



Antwort von Markus:

"Vaido" wrote:
... MPEG2 for SVCD ...

This conversion is something of the original image resolution is lost, so is MPEG2 for SVCD are not so good. MPEG2 for DVD-Video would be best for one not so much space to show and the other still a reasonably nachbearbeitbares compression format for archiving. If a good MPEG2 encoder used, then does the MPEG2 - video quality not the DV original.

"Vaido" wrote:
I then with XVID, DIVX and WMV playing around ...

The format is no longer necessary for the post, but hochkomprimierte format for storing and (exclusive) view s.Computer.

"Vaido" wrote:
Are there differences in these programs (such as Nero Vision) regarding the quality of the finished videos? Which program can you recommend?

There are differences and they are not so small. The best way would I use a separate MPEG-2 encoder, so you step in the MPEG2 video and then save DVD videos which can burn. Possible Programs would be the Canopus ProCoder (Express) and TMPGEnc.

Whether Nero vision for your project is and how good or bad the included (?) MPEG2 encoder, I do not know.



Antwort von Vaido:

Hi Markus,

Thank you for your answers. In the future I will be probably my films on DVD archive. I already have the programs that you recommend informed. The ProEncoder 3 of Canopus seems to have a fairly professional program and its cost almost 500 ¬ .. I'm going to get to all the cases the trial version download times.

"Mark" wrote:
The best way would I use a separate MPEG-2 encoder, so you step in the MPEG2 video and then save DVD videos which can burn. Possible Programs would be the Canopus ProCoder (Express) and TMPGEnc.


What do you mean with intermediate step? After seeing the videos in. MPEG2 files converted and before I did it as a DVD burning? To do this I have another question: I have already often synonymous in MPEG2 video and wanted it converted to DVD with Nero burn, but had to find that in Nero the video files have a. VOB files are necessary. So then you have to encode 2 times: The first time of DV to MPEG2 (for backup) and then of MPEG2 to VOB (DVD)?

Regards,
Vaido








Antwort von Stefan:

"Vaido" wrote:

...
Unfortunately I had to find that the SVCDs after 2 years, despite very careful handling is no longer optimal s.PC read Liese (read, etc.)
...


And with these experiences, do you think seriously about a long-term archiving to recordable DVDs by?

I think, MiniDV tapes or hard disks or possibly synonymous DVD-RAM are a safe solution.

Good luck
The thick Stefan



Antwort von Meggs:

"Vaido" wrote:
Unfortunately I had to find that the SVCDs after 2 years, despite very careful handling is no longer optimal s.PC read Liese (read, etc.)


"Vaido" wrote:
In the future I will be probably my films on DVD archive.


If you do not because of rain coming into the eaves. Self-blank DVDs do not exceed self blank CDs. I Archive DVD images in addition to hard drive. With today's disk prices will cost 1 to archived hard drive DVD image is less than 1 Euro.



Antwort von Markus:

"Vaido" wrote:
What do you mean with intermediate step? After seeing the videos in. MPEG2 files converted and before I did it as a DVD burning?

Just as it is. Archived the MPEG2 files and it may still be possible to present separate audio files.

"Vaido" wrote:
So then you have to encode 2 times: The first time of DV to MPEG2 (for backup) and then of MPEG2 to VOB (DVD)?

The VOB file is nothing more than the MPEG2 - audio and data in a different packaging. These data are the zipper-like interwoven, so that they are in the DVD player can read a train. The content is therefore no difference, but cut VOB files are not so easy (!) Ungemuxtes as MPEG2.

"Vaido" wrote:
Unfortunately I had to find that the SVCDs after 2 years, despite very careful handling is no longer optimal s.PC read Liese (read, etc.)

The shelf life is even longer, the better are the blanks. Here it is worthwhile to save. Better are really good, well-known products. The DVD even more than the CD.



Antwort von Vaido:

Hello,

Thank you for your answers, spezell s.Markus.

I have already decided for an encoder, and although the TMPGEnc DVD Author 3rd Have been synonymous test as a DVD5 with 2h video material created and the quality of'm very impressed. I use only Verbatim blanks of burn and usually no faster than 4-fold.

But one last question, I was still not answered: If VOB and MPEG2 files are identical in principle, then we should MPEG2 files, but in principle (after I with my editing such program for intermediate backup created) immediately as with Nero as burn DVD-Video can. Nero, however, explicitly. VOB files to the VIDEO_TS folder, and other synonymous encoder again need hours to MPEG2-DVD video to convert.

Greetings and thanks noochmals,
Vaido



Antwort von Markus:

"Vaido" wrote:
If VOB and MPEG2 files are identical in principle ...

I know, unfortunately, not synonymous, why some programs only VOB files or with MPEG2 files, so long employed to convert VOB files to create. Whether the content is completely new compressed? That would be totally useless, but not impossible.

My Author program (Sonic ReelDVD) adopts MPEG2 files and create it in max. 20 minutes the VOB structure to burn to DVD. The PC in question is actually 5 years old, so no top computers in the modern sense.




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