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Frage von compteddy:


Hello and good Tach erstmal s.alle here in the forum.

Since I am in the process of analog to digi switch Fri,
I am looking for a DVB-S card with hardware MPEG 2 encoder.
So just want to record. (MPEG-2, 720 x 576, 25 fps)

Can you please provide a purchase tip?? Could then spend around 100 euros.

Have bad experience with software coding, therefore, necessarily Hardwareenc.!

Thanks for the help!



Antwort von Quadruplex:

"compteddy" wrote: Since I am going to switch of analog to digi sat, I'm now looking for a DVB-S card with hardware MPEG 2 encoder.
There is no good reason: The digital TV signal from the transmitter is already MPEG-2-encoded. If the card is (hopefully with the bundled software) capable of storing a recording on the hard drive to the auto in MPEG-2.

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Antwort von compteddy:

Thanks for the reply.
The three! were really nice but meant well ...

Now, I almost the whole last night for a "crash course" in missed DVB-S, is the stupidity of my question, almost embarrassing. But one learns not.

'm Certainly come to the conclusion that one of the subject does not really passes on TechnoTrend. The Hauppauge Nexus, there are indeed only used for leftovers, or is in any case and the same as TT-premium 2300-S.
The TT-budget series, I'm not really conclusive. Did this with the hardware encoding of the premium is now understood, and the budget have none.
Have one while OC XP-M 2600 with N-Force 2 Chipset and 1024 MB of Corsair, but one can determine with hardware encode during a recording work better and safer. And that's been important to me.
Still, perhaps you can still propose ne me another card.

PS: The Ct 'article, I want to see me now or get a paid download times.



Antwort von steveb:

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a good reference test site.

http://tomshardware.thgweb.de/komponenten/tv-karten/index.html



Antwort von prem:

Next Card Tests:

http://www.tv-karte.net/

Nightfly!



Antwort von compteddy:

So: first thanks for the many links :-).

The C't article has provided me with everything first on the head.
The old warhorse of Technotrend, Hauppauge (Nexus) & Co. seem to simply just old and no longer to be viable and with Linux before I did anything. Also, the hardware coding seems to be more modern cards can not get any absolutely necessary. Even my Socket A with real 2400 Mhz will probably handle it.
Another very helpful article I've paid at http://www.satvision.de , 11 / 05 gelesen.
Noch bevor ich den of steveb geposteten Link gelesen hatte, bin ich zudem Schluß gekommen, das es wohl eine KNC one, TV-Station DVB-S Pros werden wird. Ob ich nun schon die zukunftsträchtigere DVB-S2 hole weiß ich noch nicht. Mit dem Thema HDTV hab ich mich synonymous noch garnicht befasst and wird wohl with Sicherheit die Grenzen meines Rechners sprengen. (Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, N-Force 2 Ulltra 400, XP-M 2600+ @ 2400Mhz, 1024 MB Corsair, Nvidia FX 5200, 128 MB)
Solltet Ihr schlechte Erfahrungen with der KNC one haben oder wenn sonst irgendwas gegen diese Karte spricht dann lasst es mich bitte wissen. Interessant scheint ja synonymous die Pinnacle PCTV 400i zu sein aber so richtig hat sie mich in den Tests nicht überzeugt.
rate: http://www.satvision.de , 11 / 05 gelesen.
Noch bevor ich den of steveb geposteten Link gelesen hatte, bin ich zudem Schluß gekommen, das es wohl eine KNC one, TV-Station DVB-S Pros werden wird. Ob ich nun schon die zukunftsträchtigere DVB-S2 hole weiß ich noch nicht. Mit dem Thema HDTV hab ich mich synonymous noch garnicht befasst and wird wohl with Sicherheit die Grenzen meines Rechners sprengen. (Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, N-Force 2 Ulltra 400, XP-M 2600+ @ 2400Mhz, 1024 MB Corsair, Nvidia FX 5200, 128 MB)
Solltet Ihr schlechte Erfahrungen with der KNC one haben oder wenn sonst irgendwas gegen diese Karte spricht dann lasst es mich bitte wissen. Interessant scheint ja synonymous die Pinnacle PCTV 400i zu sein aber so richtig hat sie mich in den Tests nicht überzeugt.
... and dear asker, do not forget to post the final solution to your problem here!
http://www.satvision.de , 11 / 05 gelesen.
Noch bevor ich den of steveb geposteten Link gelesen hatte, bin ich zudem Schluß gekommen, das es wohl eine KNC one, TV-Station DVB-S Pros werden wird. Ob ich nun schon die zukunftsträchtigere DVB-S2 hole weiß ich noch nicht. Mit dem Thema HDTV hab ich mich synonymous noch garnicht befasst and wird wohl with Sicherheit die Grenzen meines Rechners sprengen. (Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, N-Force 2 Ulltra 400, XP-M 2600+ @ 2400Mhz, 1024 MB Corsair, Nvidia FX 5200, 128 MB)
Solltet Ihr schlechte Erfahrungen with der KNC one haben oder wenn sonst irgendwas gegen diese Karte spricht dann lasst es mich bitte wissen. Interessant scheint ja synonymous die Pinnacle PCTV 400i zu sein aber so richtig hat sie mich in den Tests nicht überzeugt.

That's what I'll do but it will guarantee unfortunately can happen only in September. Must s.morgen 3 weeks into the KH :-(
Let's see if I get there somehow to the Net.

Steffen



Antwort von AndreasBloechl:

'm Really interested to read the thread synonymous with, and faced with the same decision like you but I have more time, but leave at least as far as heard on the card with you is going.



Antwort von beiti:

@ compteddy
Somehow I'm not smart in your comments. Could it be that you are confusing "Encoding" and "decoding"? A DVB-S card with Hardware En-coder does not exist, as already stated at the outset of of quadruplex.

If you want to record something and work simultaneously s.PC that is synonymous with the cheapest card no problem. As was only to receive MPEG-2 data and written to hard drive, which the processor receives little attention. My Athlon 3500 + shows this more than 3% of system load, even on my old Athlon 800, there were only about 10% and I was casually surfing the Internet or even burn DVDs.

On the other hand costs processor power, is the de coding, so the live display of the image s.Monitor. My Athlon 800 then was almost 100% utilization, the Athlon 3500 + still at 15 to 25%.

But I see it this way: If you want to watch TV s.PC (ie the Picture Live) is not working at the same time. If you want to work during an ongoing recording s.PC, you turn the picture off flat.

I also use a Technisat SkyStar II (about 50 EUR) and am very satisfied. I take almost every day in movies and burn them to DVD without loss.



Antwort von compteddy:

I Will report again soon here, I'm preventing the next 3 weeks
(see above)
@ beiti:
You're right. First I've got everything mixed up.
First time I did not know already, the DVB-S MPEG-2 broadcasts.
Everything else I have now understood as follows:
Technotrend cards such as premium & Co by relieving the CPU decode the picture to watch TV on the PC hardware itself-ie de coden
This has nothing to do with the recording on a record.
Then there's what with which digitize the analog input signal applied there can also relieve without the CPU. But this has in turn with DVB-S nothing to do (eg KNC One TV Station DVB-S Pros; VMagic DVB-S Ultra)
And then those who like your Technisat SkyStar II or just the synonymous, KNC favoritisierte of me that has to do everything, what with television and satellite of record, and leave the CPU itself.
I hope now I've got everything right so far understood, or ....?
Quote: But I see it this way: If you want to watch TV s.PC (ie the Picture Live) is not working at the same time. If you want to work during an ongoing recording s.PC, you turn the picture off flat.

Personally, I'm already at work s.PC times like a small TV picture in a corner - if anything good is running. But that was now so synonymous with me somehow. Have fed via Composite of an analog receiver to a cheap capture card and Typhoon above it synonymous added. Exhilarating is not, however, what comes out there and CPU load around 50%.

Greeting

Steffen






Antwort von beiti:

Quote: Everything else I have now understood as follows: [...]
I think you now look through full. :)

Quote: Have fed via Composite of an analog receiver to a cheap capture card and Typhoon above it synonymous added. Exhilarating is not, however, what comes out there and CPU load around 50%. The live encoding with a cheap capture card is for the processor even more sophisticated than the live-decoding a received stream. Therefore, when you will load on the processor with DVB-S card in any case less synonymous if you can take a cheap card and turned on the picture during the recording.

The cheap tickets are all equally good or bad, the recorded quality is identical () the same manner as sent. However, there are differences in the software. Not all DVB software is equally good, and not all work with each card.

I've done my DVBViewer (shareware version for 15 euros). There are sure a lot of plug-ins for special applications. I, for example, the TaskScheduler in use of the calculator automatically starts up for the recording time from sleep mode and shuts down again afterwards.



Antwort von compteddy:

Hello,

steveb @, @ AndreasBloechl,

would like to briefly report back and have not forgotten the thread here.
Am unfortunately still sick, but I'm going to buy probably the beginning of October, a DVB-S card. I'm thinking still s.eine KNC-One,
but there are gone now again 2 months.
If you link to an interesting test DVB-S card you have, can you please post me.

Otherwise, I will meld safe here with my (; Miss?)-Back successes.



Antwort von videofreak11:

Hello!
Also I am looking for a DVB-S card with Hardware DECODER and ENCODER.
Yes, create exactly with an ENCODER for DVD-standard MPEG2 stream in real time.
I'm simply a matter of broadcasts with little effort DIRECT (ie, without tedious conversion and fiddle) burn onto a DVD and then view on a regular DVD player.
I have a "Skystar 2" and have so far come to no useful DVD-profit (despite the application of X-Stream complicated and very time-consuming conversion programs). Often the streams are not even fired (because not DVD-compliant), or there is strong Tonversätzen.
There must synonymous for the PC as a hardware DVD recorder (which I currently used in combination with a DVB-S receiver easily use) - synonymous to give a plug and play solution for this problem. Which DVB-S card I should buy to the recorded stream directly (in the "DVD-MODE" - understandable for normal DVD player) using Nero to burn to a DVD?



Antwort von RickyMartini:

These maps and Receiver with PVR function to plot the data stream - for SD to MPEG2 in HD to H.264.

DVD-compliant data streams that are not, why transcode is unfortunately inevitable. Alternatively, a media player should, you can play as WD TV "clean these files.
That would make their way through a DVD player and save a lot of unnecessary time.

I myself use the "Comag SL100HD PVRready" together with a SDHC card + card reader, or a 2.5 "disk for video recording. The transport stream data are just as DVD-compliant. However, I am accustomed to look at videos s.PC why DVD player for me are useless.

Alternatively you can book an analog TV card with MPEG2 recording function and use the DVB-S Receiver connect s.diese. The videos are then recorded to DVD-compliant.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

"videofreak11" wrote:
There must synonymous for the PC as a hardware DVD recorder (which I currently used in combination with a DVB-S receiver easily use) - synonymous to give a plug and play solution for this problem. Which DVB-S card I should buy to the recorded stream directly (in the "DVD-MODE" - understandable for normal DVD player) using Nero to burn to a DVD?
Where is the problem? Keep it the same way as before and let the PC from the outside! ;)
You must know that the DVB-S card records only the data that will be sent - this is not DVD compliant. A transcoding is therefore absolutely necessary! A real "DVD-MODE" will therefore hardly be synonymous.



Antwort von videofreak11:

Thanks for the hints. I thought that it would perhaps give it such a card, with which is possible. Can that possibly external SAt solutions that work via USB port?
Or do I have one Nexus Reconnect with Video - Out s.eine analog video in the 350s?
I will be happy with the make way for a calculator, because I could program it to. The satellite receiver DVD Burners variant unfortunately funzt only manual. (select program and then press s.DVD-Rec on recording ...)
This issue would need synonymous other satellite TV have fans, or I am not alone?
DVD's are synonymous good for archiving.



Antwort von RickyMartini:

The course is of me called Comag programmable and converting into DVD-compliant MPEG2 is using Corel DVD MovieFactory synonymous (not a problem, with one quad can be transcoding about 1 / 3 of the period).

Why two cards in the PC, which may still be able to poach? A SAT-Receiver and the "PVR 350" there are sufficient synonymous. WD TV or a laptop with TV-Out for the tube should suffice as synonymous.
Instead of DVDs, I use large HDDs.



Antwort von videofreak11:

Laptop with TV-Out? Has been synonymous since the funeral edges as in the graphics cards? I have two different AGP card with TV-Out. Both fill the screen of the TV set is not 100%. 've Already tried out all settings. What am I doing wrong?
Hard disks are recommended to ensure it really? A buddy is a big time record broke. Thus, all recordings were unfortunately synonymous pfutsch.
Apropo hard drive. What is of such a "Movicube" with keeping recording function? Drawing on this hard drive enclosure with recording to DVD-compatible format?