Infoseite // DVCPRO HD material in the post-production



Frage von Ipiranga:


I have a few questions about DVCPRO HD material and I would be more than informative contributions of experienced people happy.

1: How many GB of data fall in DVCPRO HD per hour? - I guess
about 54 GB. Liege ich da richtig? - Is it possible with a Mac Pro or comparable PC / workstation or cut line, or need you have additional hardware such as a Mojo Beschleunigerbox like Avid Xpress Pro?

2: I'd like 960x720 and 1440x1080 progressive, ie 4:3 instead of 16:9 recording. Is this, or can you only record 16:9 and the material must then cropping?

3: If the video footage using editing software of the P2 card is captured or copied only the material on the hard drive and then import it into editing program?

4: How long does the copying of video footage of a 16 GB USB stick on a hard drive?

5: How does the Premiere Pro with DVCPRO-HD cope. Is obviously not a professional program such as Final Cut Pro, or AXP, but for my purposes it would be an alternative.


Thanks s.Alle that I can help further.

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Antwort von Markus:

"Ipiranga" wrote: 1: How many GB of data fall in DVCPRO HD per hour?
Data Rate 100 Mbit / s = 12.5 MB / s = 44 GB / h - at least in purely mathematical terms. Since I am with DVCProHD yet had nothing to do, I do not know value of practice.

"Ipiranga" wrote: 2: I'd like [...] 4:3 instead of 16:9 recording. Is this, or can you only record 16:9 and the material must then cropping?
There are no HD Video 4:3 format. To work around this yet, you must according to the Recording gecroppt be.

"Ipiranga" wrote: 3: If the video footage captured [...] or to copy only the material on the hard drive ...?
It copied the data directly. The speed of data transmission is usvom target machine dependent.

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Antwort von camtv:

"Mark" wrote: "Ipiranga" wrote: 1: How many GB of data fall in DVCPRO HD per hour?
Data Rate 100 Mbit / s = 12.5 MB / s = 44 GB / h - at least in purely mathematical terms. Since I am with DVCProHD yet had nothing to do, I do not know value of practice.

Constructed with approx 54-60 GB / h Because sound. TC, etc.

"Ipiranga" wrote: 2: I'd like [...] 4:3 instead of 16:9 recording. Is this, or can you only record 16:9 and the material must then cropping?
There are no HD Video 4:3 format. To work around this yet, you must according to the Recording gecroppt be.

Right

"Ipiranga" wrote: 3: If the video footage captured [...] or to copy only the material on the hard drive ...?
It copied the data directly. The speed of data transmission is usvom target machine dependent.


This comes on the target computer. And on the software. If your software supports the copy, it goes fast. Otherwise you capture.

It does not synonymous, for example, to download and backup. Then you must be rendered, and it takes probably more than capture.

I will look at software (for an affordable price) make clever.

When can we ZDF with 8 professional download speed .... but it will cost .....

LG rené

Way with questions about 100 DVCPRO always www.teltec.de

the guys have got a clue.

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Antwort von camtv:

Stop!

Have just written crap!

My Panasonic Varicam is already synonymous internal 4:3

But the P2 models only 16:9

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Antwort von Valentino:

@ Ipiranga
1. So DVC PRO HD has about 1GB per minute, ie, the 60GB per hour. 720/25pNative mode while in the HVX200, only half accrues s.Daten, so 30 GB per hour.
To speed you need only a good PC with the necessary computing power and because it does have a 1.8 GHz SingelCore, but a new 2.0 GHz Dual Core is better. If you want multiple tracks have a small raid would not be bad. Online editing is garkein problem've even look at a MacBook Pro with two tracks processed.

2. Cropping synonymous otherwise I would not invade and stop as the preview monitor with right and left tape on the 4:3 image content abgleben.

3. In Final Cut Pro on File / Import and then to P2, there Cilps select and invite over.

4. Per HVX200 can transfer to an external hard drive or USB Stick locker times take 20 to 25 min at 16GB. Lieber via PCMCIA slot (old PowerBook with FCP5), or copy this reader or equal Firestor buy / borrow and then halt the 80GB disk.

5. With the premiere, I have absolutely no experience, but because DVC PRO HD is not as computationally intensive as HDV is, it should not be Porblem.

Greeting

Valentino

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Premiere will not cope with DVCProHD. Only with expensive plug-in.

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Antwort von ar8001:

Hello Markus, camtv, Valentino and PowerMac!

Many, many thanks for your very insightful responses.

Since then I can very budget conscious and without expensive hardware upgrades at the same DV of DVCPRO HD switch. I make web videos and always use only DV material. Now I would like, but times a 720p video it and I can not simply with the idea of HDV material, which in Mp-4 and not in Motion-JPEG encoded areas. Because you can just more extremely poor color, etc., or edit in AE. Furthermore, I believe that cutting programs when lossy HDV editing work. At least I can not imagine how otherwise a GOP (Group of Pictures) can be edited. I think DV is there on video with a data rate of 25 Mbit / s, the absolute lowest limit for HD and DVCPRO HD Resolutiondürfte also represent the lowest limit. Because I can no longer stick to any old TV standards like PAL PAR with 1.067 and 50 fields must record, I hope by square pixels and progressive recording a small additional improvement in quality of my web videos.

mfg

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Antwort von Ipiranga:

So the previous article of "guest" comes to me of "Ipiranga". Was not logged on, when I give you my thanks to you wanted.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

So I cut this format and synonymous with smooth slabs can four, five tracks in parallel play. Have a mediocre 2x2 GHz iMac with FCS and 2nd

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Antwort von b0kaJ:

@ PowerMac: How is this plugin for DVC PRO HD 1080i 50 for APP2? Get namely exactly this problem have the codec (FourCC 'DVH5') is not ...

mfg

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Antwort von ar8001:

From MainConcept is a plug-in for Premiere for DVCPRO

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Antwort von PowerMac:

$ 889 - but that is favorable for a plug-in, the other not needed.

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Antwort von jomiho:

"PowerMac" wrote: $ 889 - but that is favorable for a plug-in, the other not needed.

True if the purchase price of Avid Media Composer to basically submit to you always schwörst.
What is the cost of Avid is still the same ¬ 4,000, ¬ 5,000 .....

Adobe 2,500 ¬ + 390 ¬ makes around 2,900

jomiho

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Antwort von PowerMac:

The plug-in costs $ 889. Adobe Production Suite will cost 2600, premiere alone (useless) around 1100th Final Cut Studio costs $ 1299. Only Avid MC will cost something around $ 3500. Pianist knows that he has. I swear because it did not, I might not.

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Antwort von Johannes Leistner:

Incidentally, there's now NEN update for premiere, with the DVCPRO HD you can use reasonable
transmission of p2 cards to take the computer with me (1.6 Ghz dual core) is about 1:1, ie 5 min material need 5min, which represents most synonymous experience reports that I've read on the web,
Best regards,
John

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