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Frage von beaver:


Hello everybody, how (with what software (freeware)), I can a DVD of "record", ie an avi file which I then generate Adobe Premiere can edit?
Thanks for any hints

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Antwort von StefanS:

Visit some of our Home of Slashcam.

It determines what you'll find.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von lokipoki:

na thanks, great answer ... well would be synonymous: but ask someone who knows it

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Antwort von Markus:

"beaver" wrote: ... (with what software (freeware)) I can of a DVD [...] create an AVI file ...?
Look here:


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Antwort von Johannes:

"beaver" wrote: Hello everybody, how (with what software (freeware)), I can a DVD of "record", ie an avi file which I then generate Adobe Premiere can edit?
Thanks for any hints


but tell the same (piracy) ;-)

John

up in 5 years ;-)

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Antwort von StefanS:

"Anonymous" wrote: na thanks, great answer ... well would be synonymous: but ask someone who knows it

Well, my dear,

on the homepage of Slashcam you had the link to find many free programs.

Should I perhaps synonymous nor for you to install on my calculator and do the work for you do?

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von Johannes:

This "wing" for me could you make it ;-)
E-mail is in profile.

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Antwort von der-Treptower:

Just use Nero. Go to infach Own Video DVD disc and then import it. Of course only works with DVDs are not copy protected. Nero will then present the DVD as an MPEG movie files on the hard drive from. Gruß Alex

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Antwort von beaver:

First thanks s.Treptower and Markus for the concrete evidence.

To Stefan: I use forums to either an answer to a tricky question to get that I own synonymous with searching or can not find a quick answer to a simple question, which many people here safely with two lines can be answered, but I as a novice may only be looking for more. If this is not legitimate, so, I apologize for the stupid question. After your reply I then searched and even synonymous VirtualDub mod found, which is fine for my purposes works.
I have still a question under the category of "tricky", at least for me, which I will then dare in a new post to make.

From because of "piracy" - kopfschüttel - can you even imagine any other purpose? for example, that someone from a DVD camcorder recordings has created the original but no longer has the DVD of a new compilation / editing wishes.

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Antwort von StefanS:

Dear Beaver,

Helping people help themselves is truly sustainable, as vorgekaute Kost
If someone does not like, it gives me the no preference.
Since synonymous, however, I accept your right, you think to say, I'm not even angry :-)
The main thing you have found something and now know where much more can be found.

However, if you are already differentiated and extremely grateful, then synonymous correctly. The accusation of piracy bezgl. was not of me :-)

Should I be able to teach you a similar notice to your tricky problem that I am here again.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von Dragon:

Yes, sorry Stefan, with which the robbery was not a copy of Dir thanks for the assistance offered for the "tricky" issue that would be because:
The source VOB file to DVD with DivX is a compressed MPEG.
After opening with VirtualDub, I have now a plethora of possibilities with what compression I save the avi container can, for example, uncompressed, MainConcept DV, DivX and a few others. The mentions three I tried. 25 min film is shown avi's of about 45 GB, 5 GB or 200 MB. The opinions I will edit in Premiere and then with Encore DVD compress. The compression of the last step in Encore I make the automatic compression. Question: what Vorkomprimierung (virtual dub -> avi for Premiere), I choose for best results, or is that no preference. Intuitively, I would main concept, since the MPEG inflate einer170 MB to 45 GB uncompressed surely no quality can bring. But equal to 200 MB zurückkomprimieren?. Or do I have another of the many codecs in VirtualDub?
Other problems: In all three forms avi in Premiere, I have the red bar above the editing window, which I think means that to play in the monitor only needs to be rendered. When None of the three opinions is that without significant shakes when playing in the Monitor window.
If the s.codec from VirtualDub (for welcoming DV_AVI from a camcorder in Premiere, I had not). If it is in Premiere somehow fix it?
Vieln Thanks for useful information.

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Antwort von beaver:

that with the rendering in Premiere, I clarified.
For a hint regarding the initial compression, I would be even more grateful.
The result after rendering in premiere (when using the DivX codec in VirtualDub) is actually pretty lousy (called a lot worse than the original so as compressed source file) in the small display window.
Is it inevitable that in the process MPEG (DivX) -> VirtualDub -> AVI (DivX) the image quality is significantly worse - at the same level of compression?

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Antwort von StefanS:

What in my thoughts s.Deinen previous two contributions do not fit, is:

"beaver" wrote:
The source VOB file to DVD with DivX is a compressed MPEG


VOB on a DVD is MPEG2.
DivX and all derivatives are MPEG4.
MPEG4 in a VOB, I know not.

So please explain, if the DVD only the disk on which a DivX (MPEG4) encoded video file, or a "real" DVD with their typical structure, VIDEO_TS, *. ifo, *. bup , *. vob

Or do you mean that you already have a video DVD umcodiert searched for DivX?

Basically:

To edit is s.besten the DV format.
MPEG, MPEG od no preference 2 or 4, are the final format in which only the very end it will be converted.

MPEG compression is significantly higher than IR.
MPEG 4 is usually higher than compressed MPEG 2nd

All compression techniques (eg Huffyuf exception) are lossy.

Compare this with a soup:

From 1 liter of original soup do you do 2 liters.
The result is already a slightly thinner soup.
If you instead make it 5 liters, the soup is very very thin.
If you are now 5 liters to 1 liter boil, it just tastes burnt, but never like the original liter of soup.

Most s.Qualität from the original file would you actually save uncompressed. But this is based on the data rates illusory, unless you had no end of hard disk space and a sufficiently fast Raid alliance.
There are two realistic solutions:
Huffyuf: lossless compressed approximately 2:1
DV: approx 5:1 compression

Accordingly, I recommend specifically to your question
"beaver" wrote:
Question: what Vorkomprimierung (virtual dub -> avi for Premiere), I choose for best results, or is that no preference. Intuitively, I would take Main concept


Follow your intuition and take the MainConcept DV codec

It may still be a problem include:

If it is DivX, it is likely that the video for playback is s.PC deinterlaced. For a representation s.TV is less suitable.

You see, it's obviously really "tricky"

Among the issues raised above are, incidentally www.edv-tipp.de enormously extensive explanation, better than we could here. As a supplement and base relating to video this hour is highly recommended reading.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von beaver:

Hi Stefan, thanks for your detailed reply and the valuable hints.
What I DivX to VOB wrote was nonsense. Because I have something confused.
Your soup was a good example. After some trial & error, I have noticed that the intermediate step on MainConcept very good results, however, has its limits synonymous. I want to take some shots at 10% slow motion bring. What this ultimately from Premiere rauskommt is not usable. It quite terribly jerky. I have the DV-AVI from Premiere not yet on DVD with Encore, but can do better so it probably will not. Where available, I will now the original recordings (analog video) rented by A / D converter directly into Premiere recording. This would then actually be s.verlustfreisten.

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Antwort von StefanS:

That is correct, the external conversion by A / D converter is still the best method. If you want to rent you an example, the Canopus 300, because the built-TBC.

Another tip:

Even "normal" VHS tapes will benefit them tremendously when they are the converters via S-Video of an S-VHS recorder present. Sounds initially only once is not strictly logical, because the S-VHS recorder so no "quality to do", but the S-video signal, the S-VHS recorder emits is lengths better than what via Composite from a "normal" DVD recorder comes. So if you are accessing an S-VHS, you use him, if not, it is not synonymous leg fracture.

On the subject of 10% slow motion:

At 10%, all bad. Stop! Not all. But every normal editing program does nothing other than a pro rata add pictures, in principle, be doubled. No editing program (AFAIK, please correct me) is calculated real "Between Pictures". Real slowing to 10% but needs just that there are programs that can be. Such as times after Motion Perfect, etc. About the quality I can, however, say nothing, because not even tested.

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von beaver:

Thanks again Stefan. The Canopus 300, I have actually been selected.
What you know about the 10% slow motion write sounds plausible. What surprised me is just that: the original clip will premiere in first without the red bar which is probably means - if I understand this correctly - for playback in the monitor must not be rendered. If I have the clip to slow motion Dehne, the red bar appears. The representation of the slow motion in the Monitor but is now flawless, no bucking. When I render the clip now then I have followed the shakes when you play (all still in AP, no encode). And I do not understand. Why can not the slow motion before rendering to be smooth again and then no more?
Gruss
Manfred

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Antwort von StefanS:

thus the theme "how and what of ... to the DV-AVI?" satisfactorily completed would be :-)

But why your slow (I have not deliberately slow motion) before rendering looks redundant and then stutters, I still can not understand.
In my experience (which is in the field but limited) is the deceleration of a clip at double length (50%) for most videos still bearable, while the length of four (25%) depending on the content already extremely jerky, Moreover, hardly to be used unless as a last resort.
Now I do not work with Premiere, but Premiere synonymous subject to the rules of physics.
If I had it here, I would try to understand. If someone does not notify waiting times until tonight.

Greeting
Stefan

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