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Frage von anjalischen:


Hello, I hope that someone can give me advice.

We have had the SonyDCR-TRV239E. After a fall on the tiles is now a new invoice.

We use the camera for general household use (Baby, Holiday): Then I cut the films s.Laptop.

Since the budget is not enough to equal what "ordinary" to buy, I think about it, again a Digital8 camera to take to do my old tapes Digitizer them. Is this a stupid idea? MiniDV synonymous would be possible (price). Since Digital8 is already totally outdated?

I've searched after Sony cameras and only found one at Amazon (SonyDCR-TRV270) But the data does not convince me really (only 540,000 pixels). Perhaps we should ne on other brand change? I therefore Sonywollte because we are the sound was actually quite good in our camera.

If you advise me of Digital8 and MiniDV but rather a Camera would recommend, there is not opportunity, the Digital8 format tapes digitizer to be? At Media Markt 60 mins cost 20 euros.

Thanks in advance!

Anja

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Antwort von C.I.W:

The question should probably be a joke. HDV is soon snow of yesterday and you come with us as Digital8.

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Antwort von anjalischen:

nee to be a joke, it should not. The reasons I've mentioned.

Thanks for the nice reply!

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Antwort von scream:

Six ways to Video8/Hi8 to Digitizer

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Antwort von beiti:

Quote: If you advise me of Digital8 and MiniDV but rather a Camera would recommend, there is not opportunity, the Digital8 format tapes digitizer to be? At Media Markt 60 mins cost 20 euros. Digital 8 (as the name suggests) digital, must be no more "digitized" are. ;)
Indeed, the records of Digital 8 completely identical with those of IR. It is the same compression method, only one other places written cartridges. D8 So you can cut with the same programs, such as DV, and you can-8-digital recordings to DV lossless copy (leave). This digitization process is not, but a mere copy of data. For 60 minutes to ask for 20 euros, I find something high. Perhaps it was just a misunderstanding, because you mistakenly referred to "go digital've asked? Since the dealer think s.das digitization of analog video, and this is usually a bit more expensive than the mere transfer of digital data of a tape to another.

Quote: But the data does not convince me really (only 540,000 pixels). Pixels are the last things to such a camcorder watch for. The tape is written for only 720 x 576 pixels - no preference how much of the chip may have.

Quote: MiniDV synonymous would be possible (price). Since Digital8 is already totally outdated? The problem is that Digital 8 is no longer there (Discontinued models / shop keepers included) and you even DV camcorders with only minimal equipment kriegst. The era of good DV camcorder is over. All the "better" camcorder filming now in any HD format.
Money today for a brand new D8 camcorder browse add, I find no sense. Even the bulky and heavy housing of these devices (due to the large cassette) would deter me.

Is so hard to make a perfect advice. Since you like playing the old tapes is important, you could transitionally a used D8 camcorder provide. By then you can past recordings via firewire into the PC and play it on hard drive to archive and / or burn to DVD. Even if the "new" D8 camcorder then breaks down (or you can resell it), then you have your recordings on a neutral medium.

Then you can the chapter "Digital 8" final finish and you buy something more modern. DV I'd said from the grounds are no longer synonymous. What exactly for you out of the question, one would have to clarify the basis of your needs. If that happens, you can indeed make a new thread unstop. :)

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"beiti" wrote: ... The era of good DV camcorder is over. All the "better" camcorder filming now in any HD format ...
Eventually this will come a time, but as long as, for example, the SonyVX2100 or the Canon XL2 and XM2 available are still new, it seems to me your statement a bit premature.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

[quote = "beiti "]...........
Is so hard to make a perfect advice. ........

I would have a,
NOT AT AMAZON AND MEDIA MARKET SEARCH AND BUY

... or you use AOL synonymous ?????

Echt so things still on Amazon, or median market kucken .... nenenen.
Come here hast du mal ne Address

http://www.geizhals.at/de

and otherwise Digi Camera 8 He used Ebay Score and after playing the tapes on sale again.
Then pick something s.besten MiniDV directly any HDV models such as Canon HV 10/20/30 and the next few years rest.

What else can you simply not recommend sh ...... although I still have 8 mm here, but this cam is no longer really use it .... I find again NEN few films in Ebay and can score , then s.and to stop for fun ;-))

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Antwort von efact:

Like the predecessors have said, Good advice is expensive.

The less good but practical and cheapest is to buy the camera at Amazon (Porst) to 210 and everything is OK.

Can the old Video continues to play (it) and besides a few movies shoot without that you're only still synonymous in New hardware and software have to invest.

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Antwort von beiti:

"Bernd E." wrote: Eventually this will come a time, but as long as, for example, the SonyVX2100 or the Canon XL2 and XM2 available are still new, it seems to me your statement a bit premature. Da hast Du recht. The semi-models, I had completely overlooked, not because I assumed that they are priced for the questioner might be interesting.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"anjalischen" wrote: Since the budget is not enough to equal what "ordinary" to buy, I think about it, again a Digital8 camera to take
There is only used, possibly Closeouts.
"anjalischen" wrote: to do my old tapes Digitizer them. Is this a stupid idea?
Absolutely not. Your recording is already digital. Nevertheless, you obviously need a suitable player. If you actually still have old pictures, the purchase would make sense.
"anjalischen" wrote: Since Digital8 is already totally outdated?
See above - there are no new devices hold more.
"anjalischen" wrote: I've searched after Sony cameras and only found one at Amazon (SonyDCR-TRV270) But the data does not convince me really (only 540,000 pixels).
This ranges completely.
"anjalischen" wrote: Perhaps we should ne on other brand change?
D8 years there have been only of Sony.
"CIW" wrote: The question should probably be a joke.
Behavior is a matter of luck :-(

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Antwort von C.I.W:

"Quadruplex" wrote:
"anjalischen" wrote: I've searched after Sony cameras and only found one at Amazon (SonyDCR-TRV270) But the data does not convince me really (only 540,000 pixels).
This ranges completely.

The image sharpness is never s.die lives in a DV image ran.
You will be with a Digital8 camera happy. You purchase a DV camera and send your old tapes for dubbing to DVD.

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Antwort von beiti:

"CIW" wrote: The image sharpness is never s.die lives in a DV image ran. The image sharpness is only with the camera part to do, not with the recording process (because DV and D8 are 100% identical). Whether a cheap DV camcorder camera a better part than a cheaper D8 camcorder, I venture to doubt. Here you have to have a class go higher.

Quote: You will be with a Digital8 camera happy. The questioner is already claims to have become happily with D8. The only disadvantage of systemic D8 to mini-DV tapes are great and due to large, bulky camcorder housing.
The fact that it is today in the DV format is much more choice than in D8, it is a very different aspect and has the system myself with nothing to do.

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Antwort von camworks:

"beiti" wrote: Even the bulky and heavy housing of these devices (due to the large cassette) would deter me.
yes, yes it is synonymous DigiBeta as shit because it works with cartridges, the 3 times as large as Digital8.
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(who finds irony, allowed to keep)

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Antwort von beiti:

"camworks" wrote: yes, yes it is synonymous DigiBeta as shit because it works with cartridges, the 3 times as large as Digital8. Not everyone who matters in the Forum here, is a professional or semi. Let me try to quote the opening question: Quote: We use the camera for general household use (Baby, Holiday) For such purposes, the Camera did not small enough (as long as it remains operable), and D8 as compared to MiniDV is a disadvantage. This practical consideration may be in the tunnel view of the (semi-) professionals irrelevant, but for family film but it is quite and not at all.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"camworks" wrote: yes, yes it is so synonymous DigiBeta scheiße,
You say it: Without a copy of my godmother, I do not go out of the house. There is already a band coil is larger than the entire DigiBeta. Only more annoying is the long air hose ...
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If you take to heart ...

Can only agree Beiti: intermediate (semi-) professional and amateur rights subtstantielle there are differences.

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Antwort von derpianoman:

Juhu, endlich mal dispute back in the forum ...
So, after I've already Ulead User geoutet have here is the second bad news:

I'm with Digital 8 very happy.

And even my wife, the camera barely lift it.
Good for holiday driving is the trunk full of course ...

LG! Klaus

PS Before you losbretter here, you should always loswetter briefly to consider
videotechnischem stand by what the questioner moves. Of course I can to anyone who is considered a piano zuzulegen only Steinway grand piano D-heart, because of which "is not" ...

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Antwort von C.I.W:

"derpianoman" wrote:
I'm with Digital 8 very happy.


1965: "I'm happy with Schwarweißfernsehn"
1987: "I'm with S-VHS happy"
2000: "I'm happy with PAL"
2008: "I'm happy HDV"
2012: "I'm happy with 2k"
2023: "I'm happy with 4k"
2050: "I'm with UHDV (8k) happy
etc.

You can never have enough. Your statement is conservative.

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Antwort von Login_vergessen:

"Quadruplex" wrote:
Without a copy of my godmother, I do not go out of the house.


Really? You cut so synonymous:

?
;-))

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"derpianoman" wrote: .......

And even my wife, the camera barely lift it.
.......

....... which is about a piano zuzulegen only Steinway grand piano D-heart, because of which "is not" ... ...


;-)) .... Well since then has your training and can be made synonymous andres so many great things in hand ;-)))

;-))) Ne anything goes .... if not already on the wing, right? -))

And who wants to NEN piano, Man (n) and Hammond wants good old tube sound ;-))

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Antwort von beiti:

"Login_vergessen" wrote: You cut so synonymous:
Very nice. Let the experts here who already complain if their machine cut only four tracks provides real-time ... ;)

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

"Login_vergessen" wrote: Really? You cut so synonymous:

? ;-))

Geil! But with film makes it's often still the case - only that the cut list s.PC now arises ...

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Antwort von efact:

The durability of burned DVDs is quite doubtful,

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Antwort von C.I.W:

Until now, one could not yet say exactly how long they hold.

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Antwort von efact:

Most of the DVDs have been burned, leave now prefer your movies on tape.

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Antwort von camworks:

"Quadruplex" wrote: "camworks" wrote: yes, yes it is so synonymous DigiBeta scheiße,
You say it: Without a copy of my godmother, I do not go out of the house. There is already a band coil is larger than the entire DigiBeta. Only more annoying is the long air hose ...

If you take to heart ...

Can only agree Beiti: intermediate (semi-) professional and amateur rights subtstantielle there are differences.

stimmt. but a large camera is always quieter than one photo you can put in your shirt pocket can. But the newest hauptsache have such a scrap to read here again and again.

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Antwort von derpianoman:

"CIW" wrote: ... You can never have enough. Your statement is conservative.

I am conservative. And I'm happy with the things I have.
I consistently hinke 5 p.m. to 10 p.m. years of time behind. Had I
more coal, I would of course, synonymous to the latest technology squint.
LG! Klausi

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Antwort von efact:

There were still a lot of responses since yesterday evening. Thank you for that! I see that opinions differ, but my hats still very helpful.

Some have identified it correctly: I am (must be) with simple equipment as it is, if I had the money, I would definitely quality synonymous what to buy but it is completely synonymous ok. Is the coal in the "good" camera and, therefore, the flat and leave the baby to death, is still nothing more about the film. Synonymous makes no sense ... :-)

Anja

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Antwort von O`Shannon:

Just try, ne d8 used camera on ebay to grab. get partially fürn Appel and n ei. then kannste your old tapes d8-capture and can then (if you want) the camera again verscherbeln.

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Antwort von Markus:

"derpianoman" wrote: And I'm happy with the things I have.
Is already a few months ago:
A camcorder is not bad, just because ..

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Antwort von derpianoman:

Mark understands me.

Digital 8 camcorder / Ulead Media Studio / described my computer I'd rather do not - but I can still put on top, even for me just ashamed I did: My little free Docus of football I have recently even a first real job brings ... Can we do this? ;-) At the DVD shows some of the people had tears in their eyes. No, this was not s.Event and s.Bildqualität or cut. ;-) For event. following questions, I already have a camera right thought. But the love Money, 4 children, 2 ponies, 2 cats, and no real job ;-)
LG! Klaus

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Antwort von anjalischen:

I now have a Digital8 camera bought at Ebay and get them tomorrow from the seller. If the fine is synonymous my (old) world back in order and the 130 Euros are synonymous then quickly forgotten. And then someday something synonymous to the modern house. Thank you for the very entertaining discussion :-)

Anja

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