Infoseite // Digitizing the SVHS tapes - Soundtrack transfer



Frage von kolesia:


I want my old S-VHS tapes to DVD copy. I would like both tracks (original and Nachvertonnung separately) to get the hard drive.

My Equipment: S-VHS VCR Philips VR 1000 (can mix Sound: HiFi and standard), camcorder Panasonic NV-MX350EG (synonymous mix may sound) and
Magix Video deluxe 2007/2008 Pros.

I get both tracks individually copied to the camcorder.

How do I get the tracks individually of both your camcorder to the hard drive (firewire)? I see Magix on track 1 and the video image on the Sound Track 2 (mixed). I would like to track 2 to the original sound and have to track 3 the Nachvertonnungston. Is this possible? Or do I have the first movies with sound and originall then successively with Nachvertonnung copy?

Perhaps the two Firewire tracks individually transferred?

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Antwort von Markus:

"kolesia" wrote: Perhaps the two Firewire tracks individually transferred?
Hello,

it is not s.der Firewire connection, that the soundtracks are not individually, but s.SVHS recorder or DV camcorder.

For your project would be a SVHS recorder needed to separate the connections once the two-track audio outputs (O-Sound) and even the mono-long track (dubbing). That would be three audio channels. A standard -A/D-Wandler (here: DV camcorder with AV-in) can only be two audio channels (stereo) digitizer, making it not possible, the desired digitization carry only a single pass.

Possibly. it would be possible to begin the video with audio track to digitizer and then again with the longitudinal track. If all go well, are in the timeline, no more major adjustments needed to Picture and Sound s.jeder body frame of the movie just to get on top of each other.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Hi Markus,

> A standard -A/D-Wandler (here: DV camcorder with AV-in) can only be two audio channels (stereo) digitizer, making it not possible, the desired digitization carry only a single pass.

I can s.meinem Camcoreder at 12bit audio following tracks: playing the original ST1, ST2 and play the Nachvertonnun MIX both. After copying of SVHS VCR, I have the camcorder still synonymous both tracks separately, as indicated above. But I can not trace the next type (copy), s.Vdl.

many greetings

koelsia

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Antwort von Markus:

"koelsia" wrote: ... I can s.meinem Camcoreder at 12bit audio ...
In this setting, a DV camcorder theoretically up to 4 audio tracks (= 2 stereo tracks) at a time, but very few devices support this feature. How do you have your camcorder with the SVHS VCR connected to (at least 3) audio tracks to play separately? Have the SVHS recorder and the camcorder more than 2 RCA connections for the sound? How did you checked that really 3 separate audio tracks recorded on MiniDV been?

"koelsia" wrote: After copying of SVHS VCR, I have the camcorder still synonymous both tracks separately, as indicated above. But I can not trace the next type (copy), s.Vdl.
I doubt (but do not know) that MVD / VDL capture of the 4 audio tracks supported. Doing only a few programs, such ScenalyzerLive or Matrox Media Tools (together with Matrox hardware).

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Antwort von msteini3:

The whole thing only works in 2 or 4 rounds:

1. Picture O plus sound on DV copy
2. Precisely the Capture
3. Picture plus Monorandspur, ie those where the sound is mixed to DV copy
4. now only the sound capturing
5. in an editing program a new audio mix to make
6. the result on DVD burn

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Antwort von kolesia:

Thanks for the answers.

I have yet to demand Magix ('ve VdL 2007/08). The synonymous have confirmed that the FireWire übeträgt no traces. So I have that in 2 veins do. Pity if the camcorder and video opportunities with 3 or 4 tracks to work and the interfaces do not join ..

Perhaps someone is working with VdL and can tell me how to get the audio sync?

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Quote: Pity if the camcorder and video opportunities with 3 or 4 tracks to work and the interfaces do not join ..


Now you're doing the technique but something wrong. The whole system was never meant to allow three different tracks recorded, but was a trick from the step of Kompatibilitätsgünden after mono hi-fi stereo. The mono is really "only" been there, so that hi-fi stereo VHS tapes (with sound is in the image track) synonymous to old mono devices (sound is on a separate soundtrack) could play with sound. The stereo that we as a mono version on the mono track mitaufgezeichnet.

Eventually, the recorder manufacturers come up with the idea that one then of the stereo tracks to mono nachvertonen can. The well-known to me (amateur) VHS recorder so synonymous continues only for 2 channels Tonanschlüsse.

Even if there is an AD converter exist, the 12-bit audio with four firewire after convert them so you still have the problem, all three tracks simultaneously from the VHS recorder to get ....

The claim of the usefulness of all four DV audio (12 bit) in the consumer area to collect, I think is excessive, especially when the recordings only stereo recordings or even Monoaufnahmen made.

The large professional systems (analog Betacam SP, Digibeta) can cost a bit more synonymous but .....

To capture:

You provide the audio output of your VHS recorder to the hi-fi and digitized traces (via your camcorder). Then you get the audio output to mono (dubbing track) and capturst the whole thing again. Hastz You now have two clips with the same picture but unterschieldlichem sound.

To synchronize: (actual theory, as I have other editing system, but should work similarly)

So, now you lay (it should be possible in Magix) the two clips on each other in the timeline. Seeking a Distinctive Unit (flash, hard cut) to the two tracks to be synchronized. This means that you move against the clips so that the se striking point in both traces s.der same place. (In my liquid, I could now simply a track of the video Part disable). In any case, you have now Tonspruren synchronously with each other ....
Now is the Tonbearbetung as you want them .....

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Antwort von Markus:

"thos-berlin" wrote: ... so you still have the problem, all three tracks simultaneously from the VHS recorder to get ...
There was then a recorder SVHS modification for certain consumer devices, where an additional RCA jack on the side track was built. It was actually possible to spend all tracks simultaneously.

If there is the issue with the capture. With two A / D converters and two Capture Tools à la WinDV and MS Movie Maker, it would be really possible, all the soundtracks in just one pass to the computer to transfer (I have even tried).

But this is only a theoretical approach, since neither the questioner a modified recorder is available, there are two ordinary A / D converter.

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Antwort von Quadruplex:

Pro-VHS and S-VHS machines may, of course to all four (stereo-edge track!) Tracks simultaneously record or play ... :-(

As for me, but just much more interested in: Is it correct that via firewire, not all four possible DV audio can be played simultaneously? I know that some DVD recorders can cause problems, is: you can take either stubborn only the first stereo pair, or (for better models) you can still choose which one of the stereo tracks recorded. But the PC should be easy but all four sound channels of DV (as they are available) at a time - right?

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Antwort von Markus:

"Quadruplex" wrote: Is it correct that via firewire, not all four possible DV soundtracks to play while on leave?
However, when capturing DV can be all four tracks simultaneously. The need to set up equipment and tools, however, capture synonymous support it and it usually depends.

Capture tools, which I am sure that they can be ScenalyzerLive and Matrox Media Tools (in conjunction with Matrox hardware).

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