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Frage von Ninius:


So people, now I want to take ne time considering whether I have understood everything from the forum the last few days really:

1. when the recording mode with i = interlaced = interlace work, then it should be synonymous, the video processing mode and i have the playback device synonymous synonymous normal TV or projector in the i mode.
Also: Recording playback processing (TV / projector)
in i - in i - in i

right?

2.Dasselbe scheme is synonymous for the mode p = de-interlaced
Recording - processing - Play (Plasma / LCD Television / Projector)
In p - In p - In p

right?

3. HDV (consumer HDR HC 1)

Convert HDV to DV brings better results than regular DV in the same price range! and can be seen in DV 16:9 to broadband.

right?

4. DVD Players
Player with progressive scan must be fed with p signal, if it is to give the best quality.

right?

'm curious about what of the case.

Thank you for your trouble

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Antwort von Mr Jo:

Hi Ninius,

Now I am what DV - video, although there is no genuine professional concerns, I also own and just learn to know me in this forum.

As far as I can judge, however, I agree with your comments. At least I have the answers you gave as you do, whether these are now becoming utterly correct, we may learn what s.dieser body can still ..

Greeting Mr Jo

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Antwort von Fan29:

In 3rd I do not think that's true.
(Applies only to HDV - (consumer) cameras!) Compressed: HDV has the stronger record than DV, because it has the same data rate (25 Mbit / s), such as DV. If we now runterrechnet on DV, it is more compressed than DV.

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Antwort von wrunge:

A down converted HDV to DV optical signal, at least make her more! Confused with BetacamSP. You can see more detail, sharpness, color gamut udn

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Antwort von universl:

"Anonymous" wrote: A down converted HDV to DV optical signal, at least make her more! Confused with BetacamSP. You can see more detail, sharpness, color gamut udn

As you can see the same Resolutionmehr details?

Of the points you mentioned are an advantage of a HDV camera, but certainly not in DOWNCONVERT.

Movie times fast movements with an HDV (it'll make a DOWNCONVERT) and then a DV Cam and repeat again the same, especially with the sharpness.

I think one thing is always forgotten is lossy Mpeg, DV synonymous to some extent but not so strong. A Downkonvert is obviously worse than the original DV recording, after all I have to convert the existing pixels and this is a OF INFORMATION. How should then be better?

Take a Z1 and XL2, take up with two on, get with the Z1 DOWNCONVERT one and say the picture is better.

Then I'll curate.

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Antwort von universl:

"Ninius" wrote: So people, now I want to take ne time considering whether I have understood everything from the forum the last few days really:

1. when the recording mode with i = interlaced = interlace work, then it should be synonymous, the video processing mode and i have the playback device synonymous synonymous normal TV or projector in the i mode.
Also: Recording playback processing (TV / projector)
in i - in i - in i

right?

2.Dasselbe scheme is synonymous for the mode p = de-interlaced
Recording - processing - Play (Plasma / LCD Television / Projector)
In p - In p - In p

right?

3. HDV (consumer HDR HC 1)

Convert HDV to DV brings better results than regular DV in the same price range! and can be seen in DV 16:9 to broadband.

right?

4. DVD Players
Player with progressive scan must be fed with p signal, if it is to give the best quality.

right?

'm curious about what of the case.

Thank you for your trouble


to 2 p does not imply de-interlaced, p means progressive (ie FULL RECORD). De-interlacing interlaced means a full screen on CALCULATE. There are to different algorithms, but again: p is not the de-interlaced.

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Antwort von WeiZen:

"UNIVERSL" wrote:
Then I'll curate.


Then go. :)
Myths do not die easily.
Wmv, and because of the Downkonvert, rice in pan, nor downer than DV.
First Posting

Quote: 3. HDV (consumer HDR HC 1)

Convert HDV to DV brings better results than regular DV in the same price range! and can be seen in DV 16:9 to broadband.


Yes.

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Antwort von wrunge:

The Picture downkovertierte definitely has a better chroma Resolutionals DV!

DV has only 4:2:0 (ie plots only every fourth of the Color on)
HDV is 4:2:0 only synonymous but four times as many pixels.
If you now HDV down sampling (of course, decent), each new pixel inherited a true color ". So 4:4:4, because it is calculated from 4 HDV pixels, of which one has a "real" color.
This is not only theoretically so. There are many people that actually say that HDV passes scaled-down loose s.Betacam SP.

If that was too complicated, so you can study in the monastery of the relevant literature;)

Here's a more interesting link:

http://www.canopushdv.com/conversion/index.html

Canopus is not intended to be advertising, but here you see a Comparison of DSR 250 against Z1.

And the DSR250 sure looks hardly have been worse from the XL2.

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Antwort von universl:

So, I have the Z1 and the XL2 compared with the Z1 and the DOWNCONVERT THE WORSE than the XL2. Have I made myself, and I have seen. For me is synonymous in the same league (say) price range. And no, myths do not die. Especially if they are not () at the time.

When HDV, so then in about



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Antwort von universl:

Synonymous However, I would say that I could have been mistaken.

Were synonymous not the first time: (

I let the DOWNCONVERT by the Z1 carrying out their own, for everything else (read:) I have no long computing time. Is already clear that software is possible to moderate some.

Have I overlooked. Ashes on my head. Stone her myself with CCD chips.

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Antwort von wrunge:

Tach!

@ UNIVERSL

But you compare now not about a Grass Valley with a XL2 or Z1!
The cams are HD (JPEG2000), nix HDV!
Would then begin at $ 20,000 without Optics!

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Antwort von universl:

No, I will not compare that came over misleading. What I meant was, the Grass Valley / Inifinty - Series makes sense. And the Verwechsulng HDV / HD is happening to me now in a hurry.

I look at the Z1/XL2 well as (semi) professional equipment, there is not the leap to a GM soooo far away.

But it was a bit far-fetched, I'll give you right.

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Antwort von wrunge:

Hello!

Mistake corrected!

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Antwort von wrunge:

So, here has indeed done a great deal!

The stone I have set in motion, is so great is what came out .....

now I have the time runtergelesen Articles here and now to me is synonymous clear:

I meant to convert HDV to DV via PC!! Yes sorry that I had forgotten to mention. Anyone who leaves the car with the software or even with making the camera itself? Of course, I meant using a PC .....

Good that it is now resolved.

Yes, the Grass Valley Infinity is great, got 'views on a show.
But coming back again, this camera is not for the area in which the FX1 / Z1 / GY-HD100 / XL H1 / XL2 done! Therefore / HDV will remain in his area ....

Regards

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Antwort von universl:

"Anonymous" wrote: So, here has indeed done a great deal!

The stone I have set in motion, is so great is what came out .....

now I have the time runtergelesen Articles here and now to me is synonymous clear:

I meant to convert HDV to DV via PC!! Yes sorry that I had forgotten to mention. Anyone who leaves the car with the software or even with making the camera itself? Of course, I meant using a PC .....

Good that it is now resolved.

Yes, the Grass Valley Infinity is great, got 'views on a show.
But coming back again, this camera is not for the area in which the FX1 / Z1 / GY-HD100 / XL H1 / XL2 done! Therefore / HDV will remain in his area ....

Regards


As I said, I consider the FX1 / Z1 / GY-HD100 / X-LH1 / XL2 as cams, with whom one does not make dropping in for a Holiday movie, but the one used for commercial work.

If I want to have to work, then I still investing more and buy me a GM that is much more powerful, with which the work is fun, a hard drive as storage media used can) JPEG2000 (digital cinema format, and moreover, in the end just scrape off with 2-3x as expensive as the others?

I see a GM as far as the future proof of cams you listed, but that's my opinion and I want anyone here bad-mouthing his action.

Be it as it is, the future will show where the road leads.

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Antwort von wrunge:

Yes, I'll admit it right, the GV is a definitely a class part. If the top is hol 'ich mir evtl synonymous one .... First of wait for the test, and what one still hears everything. But for the price performance HDVS are already acute. I wanted to express it.

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