Infoseite // Easy mode AE Programs, what's behind it?



Frage von Easymodus:


Dear All,

I have bought recently a SonyDCR HC-17th Despite my distaste for automatics! For my better half will come with the camera synonymous clear:)

Now the question:

The documentation of Sonyist since quite restrained.

What makes the camera in each AE exposure programs like that?

Is there perhaps a statement on the Web what happened in detail, about aperture, auto focus, ie in reasonable technical Fachbegrifen precisely formulated. : Suffice) The sample pictures in the instructions there for me to understand this is not really Programs.

Thanks

Stefan

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Antwort von Stefan:

Some camcorders often (at Sony), you can get by using the remote control to show Datecode the Picture.

In addition to the recording date and recording time, there is sometimes synonymous About Aperture, white-light adjustment, shutter time ... Perhaps this will help you with your curiosity ;-)

Good luck
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von molch:

Hi,
I do not know now what has the GS17.
but in general this is so:

Sport: the shortening verschlussziet, less motion blur

lowlight: the residual light amplification is increased

snow: the dazzle is next closed.

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Antwort von MiXMaster:

"molch" wrote:

snow: the dazzle is next closed.


Conversely, the aperture is opened next to create a brighter picture for.

Reason: The automatic usually tries to reach a certain Helligkeits-/Grauwert in the Picture to. In bright environments (beach with light-colored sand, snow) would limit non-white surfaces degenerate into a very dark gray. To prevent this, the snow mode, ergo must be aware of something overexpose.

Greeting
Holger

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello you,

enter your request in terms Wikipedia.de one, and we get the insight.

Since the HC 17 as almost synonymous only through automatic addition to the AE programs
has since then not much is synonymous.

Aperture comes with + -, no precise aperture can be selected.

Manual Focus does not grade well on the touch screen.

The GS 17 were in the class with the number 1:
freely selectable shutter speed of 1/50- 1 / 2000 (1 / 2000 I think)
arbitrary aperture of 1,8 - 22
arbitrary amplification (gain) 0 DB-18 DB (may be synonymous 12 DB)

LG
January

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Antwort von Easymodus:

"Jan" wrote: Hello you,

enter your request in terms Wikipedia.de one, and we get the insight.


Ach neee;)

What is an aperture, shutter speed, etc. is already clear to me.

The last time that I pressed myself on film has been more than ten years ago. That was a 16mm film camera Beaulieu. Had a slightly different operational concept:) But I used the program very much like cameras and Automatikfrei are.

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Since the HC 17 as almost synonymous only through automatic addition to the AE programs
has since then not much is synonymous.


That was basically clear. Quote:

Aperture comes with + -, no precise aperture can be selected.


na I guess that's an exposure with aperture setting has nothing to do.

I'm assuming that the Sportpogramm preferred in all cases short shutter speed and aperture with the portrait program works. Landscape fixes the focus at infinity and then wirds bizarre.

'Spotlight' and 'outside brightness' only permit focusing at close range, dusk makes everything ... Well

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Manual Focus does not grade well on the touch screen.



Works but
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The GS 17 were in the class with the number 1:
freely selectable shutter speed of 1/50- 1 / 2000 (1 / 2000 I think)
arbitrary aperture of 1,8 - 22
arbitrary amplification (gain) 0 DB-18 DB (may be synonymous 12 DB)



From what price range were reading the cameras actually operate properly?

Stefan

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Antwort von Jan:

Yes master what you think what is being done at an exposure correction? (That was 50 years ago last synonymous with SLR cameras so that the aperture or shutter speed - easy to make a correction and look at the Shutter on)

Either change the shutter speed! (Can not be with the HC 17, because the shutter speed by feel remains the same (no preference how many people passing through the pros and cons were shown always sharp.

Or Aperture? I tend to type as pointed Videoaktivdigital synonymous with the HC 17 on a screen change.

Or gain) (gain, which I do not know when your.

At the GS 17 can be quite the shutter speed, aperture, gain for a 300 ¬ Camera with the joystick navigation easily adjusted.

I find Wikipedia very often a lot of knowledge, of which I had no idea.

I wonder why only the question if the answer is already known? (Last Answer)

Or wiedermal a tester that I have every day in the company.
A customer reads a report (journal, dictionaries) and prides himself then with his knowledge.

LG
January

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Antwort von Easymodus:

"Jan" wrote: Yes master what you think what is being done at an exposure correction? (That was 50 years ago last synonymous with SLR cameras so that the aperture or shutter speed - easy to make a correction and look at the Shutter on)


Do not worry, I have SLR cameras in use that are older than 50 years.

Exposure means to me just not necessarily mean that the aperture is changed * *.

BTW do you somehow feel unbalanced.

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Either change the shutter speed! (Can not be with the HC 17, because the shutter speed by feel remains the same (no preference how many people passing through the pros and cons were shown always sharp.

Or Aperture? I tend to type as pointed Videoaktivdigital synonymous with the HC 17 on a screen change.



So no one knows nothing precise. * * My feeling is just not so far advanced that I recognize that because the exposure time is not changed.

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Or gain) (gain, which I do not know when your.



just exactly what I wanted to know, however, since the lengthy Veruche saved me. I am not much of player type ;-)

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I find Wikipedia very often a lot of knowledge, of which I had no idea.


I believe you like to.

In this case, however, I wanted a more extensive documentation of the program functions of a specific camera. And I thought here would be the more appropriate Rechercheort as Wikipddia.

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I wonder why only the question if the answer is already known? (Last Answer)



Possibly. I formulated the question flashc, or you fsachl understood.

So once again, the Programs and the rigor of Easycammodus manual clean out somewhere documented?

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Or wiedermal a tester that I have every day in the company.
A customer reads a report (journal, dictionaries) and prides himself then with his knowledge.



As I said, You seem unbalanced to me. Christmas is soon ;-)

Stefan

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Antwort von Markus:

"Stefan" Easymodus "" wrote: From what price range can be really sensible to use the cameras?
Hello Stefan,

This is a matter of opinion. I think that shoulder cameras DVCAM format are operated reasonably. Then you get a decent viewfinder, with which one can draw the hand usof sharpness.

Since then arises the question of the synonymous AE programs any more, because these devices often do not have programmed AE modes. price s.etwa 4,000 ¬ ... ;-)

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Antwort von Easymodus:

"Stefan" Easymodus "" wrote: From what price range can be really sensible to use the cameras?
"Markus" wrote:

This is a matter of opinion. I think that shoulder cameras DVCAM format are operated reasonably. Then you get a decent viewfinder, with which one can draw the hand usof sharpness.


Thus, in the manner I have feared.

"Markus" wrote:
Since then arises the question of the synonymous AE programs any more, because these devices often do not have programmed AE modes. price s.etwa 4,000 ¬ ...



I know that from the photo area, with fully automatic device or dubious scene modes, allowing little or no manual adjustment.

Is there really a serious second-hand market for such devices.

From the 16mm film industry to me is that Neeson largely because unfortunately ausgenudeltes device is sold.

Stefan

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello you,

That may well be that we are stressed sellers at the moment a little.

A funny example of two "photographers" within a week.

Customer 1 has 4 films s.and comes s.nächsten day again, and the films were not developed. I asked him whether it could be a special film ala GSP, 120s, W or slide film. Thereupon a huge protest with the same sentence was "I photograph for 40 years now, and it was quite normal Kleinbildnegativfilme!" geschlammt and they have no idea.

The next day came the movies, and lo and behold on the film is great "Chrome on it", even my apprentice (1.Lehrjahr white) that it is a slide film.

In the same week, there was a customer of the last 50 years! photographed, and it was again a slide film. I wonder how one with 50 years' experience a Agfachrome, Fujichrome, Kodachrome can be confused with one where the big negative is on the pack.

So I will not give haun's customers to capitalize on the shit, but know very often not synonymous. (This is particularly common in Munich before)

So I have learned it in 1993 in a specialty store:
There are 2 variables in an exposure

1, the aperture
2, the shutter speed

The film or CCD, CMOS etc needs a certain amount s.Licht be exposed to correct.

Zb. when the aperture is closed (small aperture, large aperture) must be exposed for longer synonymous therefore to extend the closing time.

But one thing must be admitted: for an exposure of an ancient 50 years old SLR for my sake, only the aperture or shutter speed to be changed (is synonymous can easily verify that I still have plenty now relatively old F 55,65,75 or EOS 300 V / 3000 in the shop for a correction, as the shutter speed provides switching of eg 1 / 60 to 1 / 30, with correction 0 comes back to 1 / 60.

Of course, still access to the film speed or when the gain in the digital imaging.

I wonder at so much "expertise" and "right and professional experience" as it was able to purchase the initial automatic model HC coming 17th The majority of users here in the forum know that we are dealing with the HC 17 is a automatic camera, which can not even set a shutter speed. Now please do not move before your wife!

LG
January

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Antwort von Easymodus:

"Jan" wrote: Hello you,

That may well be that we are stressed sellers at the moment a little.



did I fully understand synonymous.

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I wonder at so much "expertise" and "right and professional experience" as it was able to purchase the initial automatic model HC coming 17th The majority of users here in the forum know that we are dealing with the HC 17 is a automatic camera, which can not even set a shutter speed. Now please do not move before your wife!


However, since she views a whole with the confirmation of my borrowed Nikon F801 camera accidentally with 3200 ASA setting but
200 film has snapped, I know that devices with limited intervention options have their merits.

In addition, the optical Sonygute to have values that work fine in low light, and Freehand. My first tests confirm this

And it is smaller than the other cameras in the price range. This occurs in women Schnuckeligfaktor always good to ;-))

I've already used for some test shots and am quite satisfied. Manual focusing with the viewfinder is not yet s.Lcd monitor with an analog SLR camera comparable. Since I have not expected much synonymous. And that is synonymous not so much better with the competitors models.

If I expect again wants to enter more deeply into the filming, I have to od is superior to the mini-DV-class at all right for me.

Well, the manual that Sonyist completely unsatisfactory to me. I have new consumer devices with the beginner class had very little experience. But if there would drinstehen, in the snow program, the exposure is increased by 1.5 f-stops that would be something ;-)
Greeting

Stefan

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Antwort von Jan:

The 801 I know from my teaching. A very robust model, I think closing even went to 1 / 8000 - do not need many. A built-in flash She had not - as for instance, the new high-quality D-200 has indeed not synonymous.

Well then Merry Christmas!

LG
January

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Antwort von MiXMaster:

"Jan" wrote: The 801 I know from my teaching. A very robust model, I think closing even went to 1 / 8000 - do not need many.


True, more important than the maximum shutter speed to me is the Blitzsyncronzeit of 1/250stel. Fill-in flash in daylight synonymous in the blazing sun. Is sometimes quite useful.
"Jan" wrote:
A built-in flash She had not - as for instance, the new high-quality D-200 has indeed not synonymous.


But the D200 has a built-in flash, it is synonymous inferior to the F801 from the viewfinder here. Although they get along with manual lenses, the focusing is smaller on account of the smaller chips synonymous Mattscheibe not so easily possible. Thanks to the built-in flash can trigger it wirelessly, but for example, the new macro flashes of Nikon. When can I try the flash system views itself I'll probably order Camera and Flash.

Then there are other amounts as the little money the cost-camera, the Sony has. ;-) The Nikon but beuflich of use to me.

I think it is similar to the digicam. You have quite a lot of money to spend if you want a reasonable viewfinder. In the mini-DV class there are only amateur amateur equipment and superior device ;-)
"Jan" wrote:
Well then Merry Christmas!
LG
January


I wish you synonymous. And a few days later stress ;-)

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Antwort von Jan:

Well it's time for a few days I thought the EOS 5 D in relation to the built-in flash ....

About the D-200 we have been talking shop ...

nikon-d200-who-bought-it-themselves

LG
January

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Antwort von Easymodus:

"Jan" wrote: Well it's time for a few days I thought the EOS 5 D in relation to the built-in flash ....

The sealed housing is not such. Whether it really is the more professional camera.
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About the D-200 we have been talking shop ...

nikon-d200-who-bought-it-themselves


Jo I've read it. If you have the closet full Nikonobjektive, then you can start with a 5 D little.

Stefan

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