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Equipment für Trial-Videos

Equipment for Trial Videos

Frage von LauraPalmer:
April 2011


I'm new here, both in the forum world, however, synonymous with the concerns shooting a DSLR. To be able to reasonably speak the same language as her, I got the last three days trying to read as much relating to and know now that 24frames not the same as 23.98 frames, which are full-Cropcameras, etc fields.
Of course, I have dealt synonymous with the camera issue and read all the comparisons between 550d, 60d, 7d, 5d II and D7000 - yet I still do not know what it should be - more about that later.

I've always really just prior to trial videos of me to turn themselves and to photograph. Trial is something unknown in our area cycling.
Here's a video of me which I 3 years ago with a Billigcam, had three hours glued Wide Angleund cobbled together in Adobe Premiere:

<object width="640" height="510"> <param name = "movie" value = "http://www.youtube.com/v/3eDFEABNV-s?fs=1&amp; hl = en & amp , rel = 0 "> </ param> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> </ param> param> value="always"> </ param> <embed src =" http : / / www.youtube.com/v/3eDFEABNV-s?fs=1&amp; hl = en &amp; rel = 0 "type =" application / x-shockwave-flash "allowscriptaccess =" always "allowfullscreen =" true "width =" 640 "height =" 510 "> </ embed> </ object>

You see, this is most easily made of a tripod filmed. I would mostly keep synonymous, but would take out my girlfriend often synonymous, which then makes one or the other swivel or with the Focus and the depth of field playing around and I'd go for a well-synonymous Glider 100cm / Dolly.

here are some videos of a friend from Norway, with a 5D II makes films and videos in my opinion brilliant.

<object width="398" height="224"> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> value="always"> param> <param name = "movie" value = "http : / / vimeo.com / moogaloop.swf clip_id = 12141023 server = vimeo.com &amp; &amp; show_title show_byline = 0 = 0 &amp; &amp; &amp; show_portrait = 0 color = &amp; fullscreen 00ADEF = 1 &amp; autoplay = 0 &amp; loop = 0 "> <embed src =" http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=12141023&amp; server = vimeo.com &amp; show_title = 0 & amp; show_byline = 0 = 0 &amp; &amp; show_portrait color = &amp; 00ADEF fullscreen = 1 &amp; autoplay = 0 &amp; loop = 0 "type =" application / x-shockwave-flash allowfullscreen = "true" allowscriptaccess = "always" width = "398" height = "224"> </ embed> </ object>

<object width="398" height="224"> <param name="wmode" value="transparent"> value="always"> param> <param name = "movie" value = "http : / / vimeo.com / moogaloop.swf clip_id = 10335556 server = vimeo.com &amp; &amp; show_title show_byline = 0 = 0 &amp; &amp; &amp; show_portrait = 0 color = &amp; fullscreen 00ADEF = 1 &amp; autoplay = 0 &amp; loop = 0 "> <embed src =" http://vimeo.com/moogaloop.swf?clip_id=10335556&amp; server = vimeo.com &amp; show_title = 0 & amp; show_byline = 0 = 0 &amp; &amp; show_portrait color = &amp; 00ADEF fullscreen = 1 &amp; autoplay = 0 &amp; loop = 0 "type =" application / x-shockwave-flash allowfullscreen = "true" allowscriptaccess = "always" width = "398" height = "224"> </ embed> </ object>

Just as I would like to look like my videos in the future. From the sound produced, I am satisfied with the squeaking of the brakes - it is thus mainly about image.

So now the real questions:

550d, 60d, 7d, 5d II or D7000? I can answer almost even: 550d; will of course synonymous photograph a little - going in about six months to a one-to-z

Antwort von H_P:

So as the camera I'd take any of 60d or 600d. The 550d is a bit dated

Tripod, Glider, Dolly, what are your recommendations favorable to it?

Yes if you know what you want to spend now, we can help you secure.
Are other useful accessories for a Dslr.

Antwort von LauraPalmer:

I've actually read anywhere that (in video technology), a 60d or 600d in Comparison to 550D is not worthwhile to give and to enable the "Magic Lantern" is not so for the 2 new, what speaks to me personally, however grotesquely, the swivel display, what so many filmmakers is a highlight - for what I intend to film, it is not necessary and I think it looks like a cheap breaking point ... So if, then the same 7 d ...

When Dolly or Glider: of course as cheap as possible - especially for my purely private in the amount of advance very limited applications ... Glider've already seen 150 ¬ - must be something more or synonymous (as long as can the extra costs translate into functionality) I'm glad willing to spend;

Antwort von le.sas:

Even under the consideration of a folding screen, I would not advise anyone to 600d. Why are synonymous, with the 550 / ML you ne Camera almost twice as much value, and is synonymous cheaper.

Antwort von B.DeKid:


Ie 2 - 3 points.


Camera selection

For the film reaches the 550D especially loose with "Magic Lantern" Hack is the Cam.
The 7D is rather for sports photography - can film was synonymous but no Magic Lantern - under laboratory conditions it is NEN Tick (minimal) softer than the others, but really what can be seen only under laboratory conditions.
The outdoor area and in sports, the 7D but the right tool.

But since the trial sport movements somewhat smoother than for example in MTB, BMX XCross the 550D would be good enough yet.

(Canon) the 1280x720 mode, the cams can be safely save as does the Mayan Effect http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alias|Wavefront on too often and too strong.
Intended for short slow motion effects is of course good, but should be synonymous only be used consciously.

24 fps you can give better turning it into 25fps can be calculated easily target any format / medium.
30fps in sports are still quite useful as long as you do not work in warehouses with NeonRühren. What is so synonymous with Trial rarely is - but then have to BluRay and DVD creation, perhaps NEN few probs.

The D7000 is a camera the better choice because it conjures up just fine results - for the film it is not wrong but oh well - not worth doing, really.
Unless you've had quite enough hochwwertige Nikkor (Nikon) Lenses.

As I would Lens dasCanonTele forgotten for now.

Take da bissel NEN Money in the hand and buy the Tokina 11-18mm f2.8 lens that's a hammer.

As prime lenses you buy the M42 Lenses are you doing with adapter s.die Cam as focal lengths you take 24 / 35 / 50 / 85 / 135 mm

Then save money and you buy bissel NEN einCanon24 - 70 mm f2.8

With the Tokina demCanonhast and only then once all that you need.

If you still have more money saved you buy a 70 - 200mm f2.8 (IS USM II = so the latest version of the ne class lens that your money is worth the benefit can still synonymous in 4 years)


Buy as handle NEN "X Opteka Grip" that can realize the Following Shots / lines.
For the small price is worth not a DIY

Tripod Manfrotto 055XPROB than buy NEN + 804RC2 head (for photos) and then you buy to NEN fluid video head. Want to get away easily for travel, the tripod can now synonymous version as carbon, which had then just complain. The legs I would always bring in 2 position / authority as the tripod is solid.


his Glide Track (igus rail) should be very good, but then to be truly mobile to just one meter long. there can then screw the 804RC2 head on it.


As the bag after you kuckst Lowepro or Kata bags.

On the lens screws Hoya or B & W clear glass filter (UV filter)

Memory buy Transcend Class 10 2 pcs s.besten each to 16GB

To buy NEN 550D battery grip replica replica Batteries incl.
For the 7D buy original battery grip (because of the warranty regarding spray seal)

If you have money you buy NEN GorillaPod since then are you having a mini tripod, since doing on it NEN mini ball head and can this thing still use a shoulder rest (ie legs bend so that you know what in your hands and you are on the shoulder)


So I think that would be it so.

For the sound can use NEN VideoMic Rode, whether you do it directly or s.nen s.die Cam MD Walkman or NEN Digital Recording equipment is no preference.

In addition, I'd still buy used nenCanon540 EZ Flash, Ne good Fenix Bags lamp (ne plus micro Klamer more that you can do to the Gorillapod) (For Mobile light by night operations) and NEN Reflector.

If the 7D now then you better NEN EX TTL Flash ofCanonnehmen for email.

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Any questions -?)

B. DeKid

Antwort von LauraPalmer:

incomprehensible - Thank you so much that you have made trouble you - really very very nice!

'm not sure, but is probably still the 550d, but are neatly with accessories! :-)

look at me now all the parts that you have listed again in peace and by then may ask again.

Antwort von B.DeKid:

No prob - I love everything so synonymous has 2 wheels ;-)

Maybe I should make NEN blog where I type something inside and then just linking to cheeky ;-) This saves time :-)


Oh yes one more thing

film always s.besten with aperture f3.5 - f11 ... so then everything is sharp of front to back

Shutter always at 25fps to 1 / 50
Static objects bad light 1 / 25
Fast objects good light at 1 / 100

Quasi fps x 2 = Shutter

If a shutter value be available, take the next close lying.


Will you work during the day with open Aperture then use ND filters, here you can take variable filter (when buying the Tokina a number greet, and is tuned NEN step down ring)

But I personally prefer a fixed filter, because it can take synonymous extending filter or filter combination, this time you look COKIN filter support to which you buy s.besten as the Z version.

B. DeKid

Antwort von le.sas:

tell me what you do as Dekid really so? Did you happen to ne HP or something?
I feel like our interests are fairly close together


Antwort von B.DeKid:


@ Le.sas

Nee ne for "real" HP I'm too lazy

I do many things but mainly 3D, Still Image matters.

There is currently much as Hired Gun (Freelancer) - in the near future I will be allowed to maybe do something more with their own projects.

For urgent matters can contact me via bgdekid s.hotmail point de contact - otherwise just open nen thread that I get faster with.

B. DeKid

/ OT

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