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Equipment for which the first film most?



Frage von axe32:
Juli 2007

Good morning together

anticipate, I hope I am right here in the "drawer"'m beginner in films that I am at every instance. ;-)

it is about the following:
I am a media designer, or hab `s times a few years ago in the" boom time "learned to know me & PC software Technically already. As for me, yet bohemian villages, is the Rotate / Produce of shooting. I am currently unfamiliar industry, in fish restaurants. My friend & employer wants to have its own production of delicacies herring, crabs pulmaschine, salad, etc. manufacture a film rotated, which in its branches on large flat screens without sound to see to be so that people stop to see here is all home - and hand-made.

For Him I eg synonymous and created the website my hobby is synonymous to digital photography, he has approached me, I was asking him whether the film could not create, I clearly do so willingly, but first need the right equipment.

Here we come to the crux of my concern:
Since the equipment later synonymous private weiterbenutzt be Anschaffungf is not just for the movie thought, but should of handling simple to use.

1. Question
What camcorder would you recommend? about price?
For the equipment I have a budget of around 1000, - E.
The need may be synonymous, so if someone wants to sell its equipment, I would be interested s.ein.

2. Question
I would consist of quality and image stabilization like grounds with Tripod, you may, or should we proceed?

3. Question
The Television in the branches are modern flat screens, 16:9 format, then I must purchase the most careful gelle?

4. Question
be the spaces of production, if I then turn, will be lit? if so, there goes a portable halogen headlamp?

5. Question
What editing software would you recommend?
Also here is important, ease of handling, but the program should already be additional special effects in the program.

6. Question
Did I forget what? ;-)
For tips about my first rotation I would be more than happy!

Jo,
Thank you first advance,
many greetings s.alle that my posting here

have the honor to
Hi & Hello

Ax



Antwort von Naturbambus:

zum Bild

buy, read, learn to know.



Antwort von axe32:

... Style & without decency ...

and then synonymous nor the order ...

With today `m left leg up first, eh?





Antwort von AndyZZ:

"axe32" wrote:
... Style & without decency ...

and then synonymous nor the order ...

With today `m left leg up first, eh?


Without the book to know, I think times, you find that your questions answered 1-6.
What was so wrong s.der recommendation? Reading maps ...



Antwort von steveb:

even cheaper is to make the forum Slashcam besides the tutorials, etc. to read.
I guess because you'll need even less time. Give it a try in the search eg the keywords ....

Buy Camera, Tripod ... ,.... video editing software and you will find that synonymous your questions already been asked several times and it is not so difficult is it good Answers relating to find.

good luck.



Antwort von Naturbambus:

A little reading, I would absolutely recommend synonymous. There are simply many more stumbling blocks than anyone in a discussion forum can eradicate. I liked this book much more helpful: http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Book Reviews/The- DV Rebel-s-guide.html. Describes how to use primarily with simple means and little budget to a workable conclusion.



Antwort von Naturbambus:

cam gs = 320 (450, -)
Velbon stativ = (100, -)
ext. disk (150, -)
software premiere3elements/ulead/videodeluxe = (100, -?)
weitwinkel =?
could for the first range.
gruß cj

ps. and then just practice ... this may take a while
or order s.freelancer rausgeben
(up to 1000 - can you make something synonymous).



Antwort von C.I.W:

Yes you can ask someone to watch the videos you shoot. The professional must not be synonymous. Or lend you for 2 days Filmequipment from. In what area do you live now?



Antwort von mov:

The advanced HD flat screens are determined, right? Then you should be synonymous with an HD camera (HV 20), if possible, rotate the film is indeed the best quality. Tripod is must, good lighting synonymous, there is nothing more embarrassing than image noise in a commercial film to have art. If there is a einamliges Project is, are you lot next Qualituatsweise with equipment to rent than buy.



Antwort von steveb:

"mov" wrote:
The advanced HD flat screens are determined, right? Then you should be synonymous with an HD camera (HV 20), if possible, rotate the film is indeed the best quality. Tripod is must, good lighting synonymous, there is nothing more embarrassing than image noise in a commercial film to have art. If there is a einamliges Project is, are you lot next Qualituatsweise with equipment to rent than buy.


Consumer opposition ... which output media (eg DVD) supports HD
currently and what consumer player also?

Content! The everlasting and content are crucial! No matter what resolution. PAL-DVD format goes perfectly.



Antwort von Naturbambus:

I think the synonymous sd / PAL 16:9 entirely sufficient
and as stefan has already written, is much more important
a good content, ie. Not only minutes long video settings,
but maybe typo / photos / graphics animation and everything as short as possible.
gruß cj



Antwort von C.I.W:

And if people do not just at a distance of meters before the 1em Glotze is synonymous depend not so bad with the PAL resolution.



Antwort von steveb:

now he really should have understood .... :-)



Antwort von wolfgang:

Well he could be the issue via a HD-TviX make ...

... but certainly should be an SD-DVD player range. I would still shoot in HDV - because the material is significantly more processing reserves, because it is actually 16:9 and because it is synonymous with SD is good.

For such a more commercially-oriented advertising, I would but no HV-20 take longer, but rather a FX1 or Canon A1. Is it synonymous ausborgen yes.

BUT: no experience in shooting to have is synonymous to read a book not help. Because you should get support.



Antwort von oschwin:

Hello together,

'm surprised how many replies have been posted here, thank you for the information, so what can I first started.

clearly would be a "book study" recommended, unfortunately, have the necessary time to do so, am "professional self" ;-)

contents of this forum here, I will still synonymous pull at them.

Will the movie to shoot myself every instance, will be synonymous for the mentioned reasons with PAL 16:9, because the people actually several meters away in front of umbrella stand or walk.

So I will be synonymous - as recommended - with Tripod & lighting work.

The editing software I know of other products synonymous Ulead, because what can I start with.

Now the question is still the choice of camera, here I am still on this forum.

Still is my offer to purchase a used good camera for my purposes, I'm open for offers.

First, thank you for the lively sympathy

Good `s Nächtle

Ax



Antwort von C.I.W:

If you are looking for a cheap, then I would take the HDR FX1. If you want to spend more then you take the XH A1. And if you still want to spend more you should look at the Panasonic HVX 200 of look.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"axe32" wrote:
As for me, yet bohemian villages, is the Rotate / Produce Of Shooting Equipment .... ... but should of handling simple to use for the equipment ... I have a budget of around 1000, - E.

"CIW" wrote:
HDR FX1 ... ... XH A1 ... HVX 200

Quite apart from the fact that all these cameras synonymous needed are well above the available budget is: Do you want someone for the shooting yet another world is seriously considering XH-A1 or a HVX200 recommend? Your signature is completely right.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von C.I.W:

So with its SonyHC 7 If he's not far. And for 1000 he gets ¬ eh no "full" Filmequipment. And if he will make more such videos will be the money he already reinhohlen. You need something synonymous invest s.Anfang.

And if this is a unique thing he should borrow the equipment anyway.



Antwort von steveb:

Here again is a perfectly clear ...

Some projected their own claims in the Asker.

Even a small Mehrpixler of Panasonic used for 300-500 euro is his duty to the satisfaction of it, if the content interesting and well done.

Also 99 euros Programs can now be a more than 2-3 years before the premiere was. Were thus of the films were bad?

Relativise please!



Antwort von C.I.W:

Is not that the point of a forum? : -)



Antwort von steveb:

"CIW" wrote:
Is not that the point of a forum? : -)


not really ... the questioner should be responsible for his circumstances and set a good help and not get their own wishes or favorite funds get called. At least then if only they could fit his profile.

But his budget reveals yet precise specifications.



Antwort von Axel:

"steveb" wrote:
... should the questioner for his circumstances and set a good help and not get their own wishes or favorite funds get called. At least then if only they could fit his profile.

But his budget reveals yet precise specifications.


... and he wants with a commercially-oriented debut start. He thinks graphically, thus less need tips on the picture (the light with the words we had already). It would therefore not be wrong, with a small cam borrowed from friends to practice a bit, or, if need be, with the video function of his digicam. Equally obvious is the idea, a good camera for the job to hire and pay for the (?) A better, to buy their own equipment. Whether he follows this reasoning, then his cause.



Antwort von C.I.W:

Perhaps someone should be synonymous with that of a little idea about the shooting has?

Does not the chief cameraman of "Stirb langsam 4.0" be



Antwort von axe:

Even a small Mehrpixler of Panasonic used for 300-500 euro is his duty to the satisfaction of it, if the content interesting and well done.

hello together,

many thanks for the interesting and useful contributions,

I had found a used cam goes well then for the 700, - ¬. Time to practice, I have en masse.

in the rest of the film is of course already dolle look, with a little exercise I get is already out in the editing software makes me not too many probs.

if I'm ready, I will, thanks to the film for you to provide, is not synonymous feature length film ;-)

for further recommendations regarding the selection of camera under 1000, - ¬, I am of course still open.

mfg
ax



Antwort von axe:

moin together

what do you vvon this camera:

Canon XH A1 3CCD HD Video Camera Recorder / new
HDV 1080i, PAL,

for about 800 ¬

mfg

rolf

PS. you can actually s.jeder kamera synonymous s.der above, screw on a tripod?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"ax" wrote:
... Canon XH A1 ... new condition ... for about 800 ¬

Either the seller before the price a "3" or forget the thing is stolen ;-) Seriös can be an offer in any case not be. A tripod of course you could dranschrauben.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Andy Garcia:

Man, shame I did for my 3500 ¬ xh s.ausgegeben and you get one for 800 ¬ ;-)



Antwort von Andy Garcia:

just an aside:

, one walimex stativ like this for the XH-A1?
http://foto-walser.biz/shop/default.aspx?TY=item&ST=1&IT=757&CT=67 # 1

or should mn but in a Sachtler (DV1) to invest?



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote:
..., one walimex stativ like this for the XH-A1?

To Walimex you'll find the search with some interesting contributions.

"Anonymous" wrote:
or should mn but in a Sachtler (DV1) to invest?

The DV1 wert thou ill-advised, as have been larger caliber ago. For details about this and other recommendations Ushi:
http://forum.slashcam.de/sachtler-dv1-ausreichend-fur-canon-xh-a1-vt45041.html

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Axel:

The Walimex I know of a friend. It makes all the distance from her hand, because it looks pansig. Also, the damping is not so bad. But it is s.schwer and b) cheap processed, so for frequent relocation and bumpy transport (which sounds bad, but hardly avoidable) of back hurts and the thing goes from the glue.

I was afraid synonymous, that the Canon A1 Velbon DV 7000 is no longer enough, but it is what it always was, a good price for his compromise. By Walimex any case, I would not swap.



Antwort von Andy Garcia:

;-) I have the Velbon already, but use it only for the HV20, the xh s.sieht because it sche *** out, and it works auhc somewhat sensibly with the xh s.aber I can stop what better imagine.
someone knows the Unomat pvs 909?



Antwort von Axel:

Can we use the cosmetics can be turned off times? Unomat That seems better than the Walimex to be, because s.es weighs half and b) worse processed no se puede.
It should only someone on the damping say, I hang myself at times s.deine question.



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

I did Walimex, works well and is not so hard. Cushioning is good and it is synonymous stable! And I can the evidence already in trust, not fear, I halfway filme professionel otherwise I would have my clients not much money for a 60 minutes live concert Mittschnitt worth.

"the rest of the film is of course already dolle look, with a little exercise I get is already out in the editing software makes me not too many probs."

Really? You know but that a study for a few years camera and even then will you, if you eg a Paraktikum who do little except make Camera s.die as assistant to pull focus, but even that is not safe, rather the version that you tow cable and coffee will fetch. Say:
To learn an art one can never really good. You should really let someone on the idea of it. Of these, then your employer (good result), du (no disgrace) and the then finally make (money) more ...



Antwort von PowerMac:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
(...) And I can the evidence already in trust, not fear, I halfway filme professionel otherwise I would have my clients not much money for a 60 minutes live concert Mittschnitt value (...)


I am deeply impressed. By background, I would you even buy ne newspaper.



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

Really? Hät a few more lying. What do because for one? Österreichisches What? Courier? Kronen Zeitung? Austria? Standard? Austria Würd recommend that you write a lot of fun ^ ^
Eg "nonswimmer lot of boat: Dead" or "mushroom mafia proposes again! Your tricks are always better"



Antwort von robbie:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
Otherwise I would not be a lot of my customers money for a 60 minutes live concert Mittschnitt worth.


the same, I can say or powermac synonymous, only that what we get, again much of which is what you get ... in the business, everything is relative. for you would be a Z1 or a dream for us is the standard ...

and else .. yes, a nation-please ... especially the media since I always find it interesting ;)...



Antwort von mann:

[quote = "PowerMac"]
"MuFim Productions wrote:
(...) And I can the evidence already in trust, not fear, I halfway filme professionel otherwise I would have my clients not much money for a 60 minutes live concert Mittschnitt value (...)


... would like to briefly turn on times and wonder what exactly a 60-minute concert recording is paid ....



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
I did Walimex, works well and is not so hard. Cushioning is good and it is synonymous stable!

Was that meant ironically or are you with the part in all seriousness satisfied? I have a few days ago for the first time a Walimex Tripods view (our backup brought a cameraman with) and I was glad that we have not really needed. The shaky head until we had good times as it went screw and pans were still no comparison to the Manfrotto tripods, which I am accustomed. To be fair of course synonymous mind that the Walimex significantly cheaper (supposedly around 150 Euros), but unfortunately you notice the synonymous to an extent that I no longer acceptable.

Gruß Bernd E.

PS: Original, incidentally, that the apparent Walimex link on your site directly to lead Manfrotto ... ;-)



Antwort von roller247:

"Ax" wrote:

clearly would be a "book study" recommended, unfortunately, have the necessary time to do so, am "professional self" ;-)

...
"Ax" wrote:

I had found a used cam goes well then for the 700, - ¬. Time to practice, I have en masse.


... then more likely than not feel like no time. Remember, however, that you read something with a little + next practice than just come with practice. Otherwise you are just practicing your mistakes, without that you notice.



Antwort von AndyZZ:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
And I can the evidence already in trust, not fear, I halfway filme professionel otherwise I would have my clients not much money for a 60 minutes live concert Mittschnitt worth.


So You're 14 and have two years before your firm. Then you probably to a miracle child.
If you already so come along professionally, then I recommend you (again), your home page to your professional needs to adapt. Since you probably have little time, I would have a small fee times your content to check spelling, etc..



Antwort von Daigoro:

"Anonymous" wrote:

someone knows the Unomat pvs 909?


I did say and write for 20 Euros together auf'm Flohmarkt acquired.
Even a relatively stable (and not grad light) part:
http://www.polatfoto.com/urunler/buyuk/505.jpg

I miss the natural comparison to other tripods and because it is for the price of a lowest-noname-foto stativ get hab, I can about the price-performance ratio synonymous not complain.
The shop's order for the 250-300? That would be me for the amateur in comparison to use here often praised Velbon not worth it and for professional use, I would say a few Euros (or a few euros more) and was put out of (synonymous here very often praised) Softly or purchase Vinten (synonymous even if I never had in my hands).

Ground spider, it does not (if missing or just not there, probably depends of the needs and the operational area from - me enough stability so).
Retractable thorns for thy Ausseneisatz has it.
Setting options are as far ok, sorry for my device every bit stiff. As a model could be, but I guess mine is more easily stored for long improper auf'm rumgegammelt attic with me and it's not synonymous grad in continuous use.
Same applies to the pan / tilt function. Even in a setting with minimal resistance one tick "unbutterig".

Buy recommendation on the shop price: rather not. Or in any case before watch and compare with the competition.



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

So either I have a fluke caught in my Walimex or you make something wrong with it. No matter. For the 60 minutes I get 1500 ¬ How much is for me, for you, maybe slightly. Of course this is not a Walimex Manfrotto Sachtler or if it is synonymous of Manfrotto and Gitzo was copied. But I think it is good and will therefore retain the time being. And actually I have no reason for me to justify now, I get money, for me very much. So I have something right.



Antwort von robbie:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
So either I have a fluke caught in my Walimex or you make something wrong with it.


... or you do not know how to swing with a touch Sachtler ^^...
But with the 1500 so you could theoretically buy already have a Manfrotto ;)... or with the whole gang for a weekend booze koma, is precisely "in" in your old: P

Quote:

I get money, for me very much. So I have something right.


yes, because why not ;)... but perhaps once again to come back slowly to the bottom of the facts and at least look at the worst spelling mistake on your home remodel ;)...

najo ... nice day to all cases still ...[/ quote]



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

But, like a swing with a Sachtler feel I know. Help is often a well-known to me that the cameraman of the ORF is. Have a couple already synonymous internships or precisely ORF 2 when done.

The text, incidentally, I wrote yesterday, up 2. With the accession of eight I was not really for spelling mistakes ...

Hm coma drinking, heard something today that does not happen more often than before? If only it did not s.die large bell hanging. Or. had the television was still important to do every day as something to report. It may happen every day, allegedly a 15-year-old into a coma säuft, but those belonging to 'I do not.

Oh, and AndyZZ: Wunderkind? Play the piano, I can not, however, I've supposedly with an IQ 153, of course, no Internet but a real test, an official. I'm generally at my teachers, and fellow contractors at very adult. Just because I'm 14 I have not all fulfill the stereotypes of my age as usual. I have exactly the balance between a normal life of a 14-year-olds (friends, fun, movies, girlfriend, etc.) and an ordinary working life found. And I know now synonymous what schools I want to visit and I know that I must keep this balance and, in order to film school and a drama school to be able to go.

You both synonymous Have a nice day, is always beautifully sunny outside, at least for us.



Antwort von roller247:

That with the IQ I find very interesting



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

Hello Guest, you are beautiful we have not registered. Unfortunately, Hetz Freds of guests collectively ignored. Bye.



Antwort von PowerMac:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
(...) But I supposedly with an IQ 153, of course, no Internet but a real test, an official. (...)


An immature remark, I can hardly imagine. I have to disappoint you, you're 14 and you realize it s.jedem posting. Is not that bad, but your "subtle" bragging (1500 euros, a television, IQ, equipment) somewhat annoying.



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

Slowly I have no real desire to respond to your comments. Really, this is stupid to me. I think you do not know me. You do not know how I am in normal life. You've never met me and I hope that synonymous that never will happen ...
Also, you know not how I work and how the results look like.
My answer may perhaps sound a little immature but that only comes from the fact that now I'm really tired of your comments about this yet nothing to do with the thread have.

The question was really what equipment he should use. Then, he claimed that he would soon be a good cameraman. I only met him about it then this is not so simple. Why is it so hard you me alone to let? It would really prefer if you would ignore me. Normally I would be something so disturbing to you but in any case.
You're apparently not capable of normal someone about his mistake - which, incidentally, everyone has, you are synonymous - enlighten without being sarcastic or cynical to be. And I hardly know anyone - I apologize if I am wrong - in my age in an hour earns 1500 ¬. Except perhaps young actors from overseas. And I'm sorry that you feel annoyed by that I have now something with my life begin.

And now once again back to topic:

I recommend you a XM1 or 2 or if you too much, the price of a Panasonic NV-GS * but you should still ask what exactly it should be.
And of course light. I think Baustrahler be sufficient for you. You can indeed possibly with soft white baking paper.

And especially you should before you start shooting with this scout: www.movie-college.de and www.hackermovies.de da gibts a good report about cinema look.

Here is the exact link: http://www.hackermovies.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=22470



Antwort von PowerMac:

"MuFim Productions wrote:
(...) Now I'm really tired of your comments about this yet nothing to do with the thread have. (...)


But your IQ is so incredibly much with the thread to do! ;)



Antwort von roller247:

But I will have the last word. Nä nä Nääää. PowerMac Well, maybe he is only 14, but he can behave themselves better than you
And since today behave is very important, it is synonymous someday take over your clients, then this is the moment where you with your bottle of brandy in your lonely little Kabuff sit and think s.die old times.



Antwort von PowerMac:

So it will be.



Antwort von MuFim Productions:

Was or is synonymous Off topic ^ ^

That is not nice. Well, thanks for the compliment and thank you defend me, but it must not be.




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