Infoseite // Experiences with Kamerakran ProAm DVC200



Frage von jansi:


Moin moin,
I had about me, me, for some upcoming projects Kamerakran zuzulegen.
I got on the net rumgesucht and am finally at ihm hierDer Kran scheint doch ideal für kleinere Takes, schnell auf- and abgebaut and zusammengeklappt synonymous recht klein.
Aber ist das nicht schon ein bisschen zu optimal für den price..?
Leider habe ich keine Testvideos zu dem Kran gefunden.
Meine Fragen wäre also:
Wie ist die Materialverarbeitung?
"Ruckeln" oder "schwanken"(durch starkes durchbiegen des Krans) die Auf-, bzw. Abfahrten?
Wo ist der Unterschied zu den teureren Kränen (ausser der Tragfähigkeit and Länge)?

Es gab mal vor einiger Zeit mal einen Thread über den Kran:
Guckst here
Perhaps someone might have of the lucky (?) Crane owners of such a test video upload?

Danke schon mal für eure answers.
Lg jansi

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Sounds interesting. Bin grad am about whether I am with the price not just take a look and do like the part that proposes

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Antwort von jansi:

... NEN Erfahungsbericht and then write over it

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Antwort von robbie:

More than "small" Takes you can stop with the part but unfortunately do not.
But I tell me, where I quietly price würd mal oneself.
The main promoters seems stable, the only weak point is likely the connection Tripod / crane be.
Just try it out. Otherwise, cost of rental cranes in today synonymous been relatively little ...

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Antwort von jansi:

For me, worth renting, because we often theatrical performances and films, etc. we will probably soon turn synonymous again a small film ... Because it is cheaper in the long term, is to buy one * g *
Just try it out .. Sure, would only be stupid if you buy his part, and one after 3 days of nothing more, because he is unstable.
Makes me wonder that None is reported, but part of himself did, but ham is then allegedly bought so many: P

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Antwort von jansi:

What, None synonymous him just "live" angeguckt?

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Antwort von noch n´Gast:

yes it should give people who have something else to do than spend the whole livelong day in any forums herumzutreiben, and the impatient impatient questioner questions to answer.
So, I have the crane, and I have the Bescor head to the engine and I can not complain. Unstable is certainly not the crane (at least if you light cameras with 500 grams of field work - in my case, GS320, GS500 and HV20). When you start it can take a jolt, and how Debonair synonymous said you need a quiet hand if the Camera will not fix, but I for my part am quite satisfied.
Pictures I have of various shoots for music videos and of a concert, but I still can not move out because s.nicht ready to cut, and b) Copyright, and c) the consent of the people filmed, and d) the absence of synchronization with the sound. In addition, e) I am on my day with various coal Unterrichtstägigkeiten can earn for the full card to pay and then just cut the night, when I get time. The material is expected in four weeks on my home page and other places s.einigen visible. If you then want to have a notification, muttu address post (I do it is from certain - here irrelevant reasons - not!)

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Antwort von jansi:

Jo, thank you!
Kannst mir ja bescheidsagen then (when ready), then gebich you my email.

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Antwort von C.I.W:

So I have s.Samstag with a relative of my own Kamerakran gebauer. The metal has a factory and everything has tasted only 50 ¬ (with Tripod, mind you). The crane is very stable, not like the one you've proposed to us. I would you advise of the crane.

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Antwort von jansi:

You would advise of the crane, because your self for less money for you is more stable ..?
Hm, somehow I do not understand.
Or have I misunderstood something?

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Antwort von C.I.W:

Exactly. I am now saved ¬ 250 and have even better health. I now have even a tripod that the crane stand. Had I the crane for 300 ¬ I would buy a Tripod (300 ¬). Because a normal Velbon holds the thing and never ever made.

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Antwort von jansi:

Öhm


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Antwort von crazy-spy:

Hello,

I have another question now on the crane ...
I just got the (new?) Video on the homepage of Bargain seen. What I noticed is the negative constant slight trembling of the image. The pictures are never really quiet. I wonder now whether it is because the crane and Flext nachschwingt, or is it vllt. Image Stabilization s.einem activated or the compression?

Is there now someone who is closer to the crane and can say vllt. even has example videos? I am particularly concerned with the state with the Crane ProAm250. How accurate is the recording booth or connection Crane - Crane processed? Backlash-free?

Had really nice, so if someone would report ...

Thank you in advance in advance,

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Hello.

I have the DVC250 ordered a few months ago, including Tripod, the little engine Belgor head, a bag and a monitor.
Hab Inch with freight for everything and just paid $ 1000. Moreover, everything came after 5 days, although I use the cheapest shipping method chosen.

The crane itself is obviously not with ABC, etc. Lightflex products or to compare. I was previously aware synonymous. I always wanted a very small crane, which quickly decomposes into a longer gym bag and find a place synonymous private vacation times is used.
A 30-kilo crane but often just remains in the trunk because of the deployment and towing costs but overcome.

I have the crane until now has not had in practical use. I've used it only with all Klimbim and in full length in my garden and XH A1 for Testaufnhamen it was built. In connection with the funny little Remote Head can be given a very respectable camera trips. The head however is a little slow and is therefore in its scope, especially as he is synonymous very little can be prone. The inclination, however, a motive in the high-and pan down to follow. And since it also with one kilo is very easy, it is hardly in the luggage to load and is flat in spite of its limitations a tremendous expansion.
Where is the crane with a steady hand and balanced properly served, an absolutely successful wobbly-loose and free shots. Even with higher focal lengths. However, not for applications with quick changes of direction. Here Flext the building so beautiful as you say. But here are likely much more expensive products synonymous sail deleted.

Conclusion: For the money a great crane, the vorallem by its small weight and volume convinced. In a quasi "Golf Bag" finds everything square. The structure succeeds without tool very intuitive and fast. In five minutes everything is. The more difficult is the wiring Monitor, Remote Head & rear camera operation.
The only criticism is the powder coating / painting, which is very sensitive and during transport in the pocket quickly suffers. Since nothing but rust can not be bad next.

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Antwort von Alex.A:

Hi,

I also consider myself this crane for my Canon XH A1 zuzulegen, but I am still not sure how with the remote control to work. I mean not only zoom, A, - and off, but synonymous control over Aperture?

For a brief reconnaissance, I would be grateful.

Gruss
Alex

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Alex.A" wrote: ... remote control ... not just zoom, A, - and off, but ... synonymous Aperture? ...
So something is working independently of the crane via a LANC remote control, such as those of Manfrotto, Bebob, VariZoom or even synonymous Canon is offered. A Apperture control in this way but probably should not go.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Apperture control is not possible. I use the Manfrotto Pro rear camera operation, which means I Manfrotto Super Clamp fastened s.Kran have.
The Apperture control must be either fixed in advance, or let the automatic transmission. As far as I know, there is generally no Apperture control of any camera via a remote control.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"rptelevision" wrote: ... As far as I know, there is generally no Apperture control of any camera via a remote control ...
For broadcast cameras like the DXC-series, and DSR of remote Sonyist of Aperture not a problem - for Ikegami and Panasonic are expected to be similar. And have not synonymous, the Panasonic HVX200 and DVX100B the possibility of a remote control panel?

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von r.p.television:

"Bernd E." wrote: "rptelevision" wrote: ... As far as I know, there is generally no Apperture control of any camera via a remote control ...
For broadcast cameras like the DXC-series, and DSR of remote Sonyist of Aperture not a problem - for Ikegami and Panasonic are expected to be similar. And have not synonymous, the Panasonic HVX200 and DVX100B the possibility of a remote control panel?

Gruß Bernd E.


That is news to me. But we never learn from. Have s.meiner DSR-500 only the classical Fujinon remote control for focusing and focal held. For Aperture, I then always connected Lens plucked.
But for how Semis Xh A1 I believe there is no remotely Aperture (unless on console, as does that I believe - is not a traditional remote control)

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Antwort von GeorgeIsOn:

All Sony cameras can not. You need the remote input, this small (I think 8pin.) Hosiden socket rear. Then there is a CCU connect with Aperture, Black, White. So pretty much the standard stuff.

Pity that not all Sony cameras zustandebringt on Genlock - In a return signal to be able to restore .. : (

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Antwort von crazy-spy:

Sers,

many thanks for the abundant Postings ...

What is generally from 200 to Glidecam CamCrane hold? Quality than the ProAm? Who has experience with it? In particular, the connection to the Tripod ... I am aware that we, unfortunately, so the angle can not adjust ...

Thank you!

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Certainly the more stable. Do something as 40-50 pounds of weight in camera memory. This weighs the crane synonymous but the three to four times and has even less range than the DVC250 version.
Worthwhile only if you get a full shoulder mount camcorder to do it. Otherwise, it is only ballast.

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Antwort von Horsti:

Hello,

I have the Glidecam CamCrane last few months in use. I have until now not yet in my opinion, far too expensive Manfrotto Tripod (480 euros) to buy, but use it with a photo tripod of Walimex. This makes the whole somewhat shaky. When you slow down of fast movements but he swings a bit. But you can live with ... I

In my XM2 I have 20kg s.Gegengewichten it.

Most, but I miss the possibility in addition to the camera move. At the top of my "Nice to Have" list is therefore an affordable remote Head.

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Antwort von EvilMonkey:

I must ask again synonymous. the Turn-key ProAm package for 500 ¬ seeeehr looks really interesting. it is clear that you kamerakopf may fix as follows:

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but is synonymous, the fixation on an object are possible:

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the latter would be for me very interesting, because when I use the crane for sports clips and would like to use the camera of course synonymous with the swivel on the object of desire to leave.

if not, how are these experiences as a "fixation" manual during the pans with the "kraneigenen forward" to implement ... thank you very much.

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