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Frage von Nelli:


Hello.
I've obviously been busy in the forum to find answers sought synonymous guidance / tips etc. found, however, I still have a problem when exporting from premiere. Moreover, the time is pressing. It concerns my diploma and tax is already next Friday, I would be glad if someone could help me.

Problem as follows:
I have a Premiere project with the following settings:
Editing mode: HDV 1080i
Timebase: 25.00 frames / second
Frame size: 1440x1080 16:9
Pixel-Seitenv.: HD anamorph 1080 (1.333)
Fields: Upper field first

In my timeline is HDV material that I would like to export.
1. For further processing (ie, uncompressed export, then re-insert and edit PP)
2. For burning to a DVD (ie MPEG2)

The export goes so far as very good. The material has a flawless Bidlqualität until: stripes, lines, fields, such as synonymous of one's name may be, in motion!

The export settings, I have already varriert and me ussynonymous s.Anleitungen kept out of this forum. So far, the Linien-/Halbbilderproblem not disappeared. (In general, it was so that the export settings with the above angebebenen project settings were identical.)

What I have noticed:
I play my timeline that appear in the window, cut fairly strong fields / lines.

Has anyone any idea what's wrong and how you can eliminate the problem?

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Antwort von Markus:

"Nelli" wrote: The export goes so far as very good. The material has a flawless Bidlqualität until: stripes, lines, fields, such as synonymous of one's name may be, in motion!
Where have you seen this? On the PC monitor is quite normal, if one player, the video plays, no deinterlacing performs.

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Antwort von Noctua:

Thanks for the hint, Markus. The fact that the Media Player does not perform deinterlacing I was not yet known ...

I have the movie until Monday anyway to export and burn to DVD, on the occasion, I will see if the problem still exists s.Television. As far as I can remember, were on the last DVD disturbing lines to discern the exact time of the export process but now I can not understand ... If my film is not such a mammoth project would be the whole thing, I could quickly try all times, but that it renders many nights, of this: wait.

I then scream for help when it comes.

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Antwort von Markus (unangemeldet):

Quote: ... I could go the whole time soon to try everything, but that it renders many nights ...
Join us to test a small portion, not the entire film.
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Sincerely,
Markus

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Antwort von fantomaz:

I had the film completely until today anyway rausrendern ...

On DVD, it still s.einigen (not s.allen) Make the Halbbildproblem on. For example, I have an interview scenes (talking heads) and larger with every head movement can be seen these ugly, self-shifted lines.

I have exported as MPEG2-DVD on the Adobe Media Encoder with the following settings:
PAL, 720x576, 25 fps, Upper field first, quality 5, Widescreen 16:9
Source material was HDV as I said (see above settings).

Where does the Halbbildproblem?
Why is it not over? (the scenes are of a tape, or they were with the same camera and recorded the same settings)
How do I're gone?
What can I do?
Who can help me?

zum Bild

Here is an excerpt from a sample image. It is perhaps not particularly beneficial;), but the problem is evident.

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Antwort von Markus:

The stripes on the Picture to see from a typical scaling without deinterlacing. Will man of the 1080 down to 576, then the picture will be deinterlaced first. Whether the car in your workflow happens, I do not know.

It is also of the quality of the deinterlacer dependent, whether the result then looks good or not. If you have After Effects, I can provide you with the deinterlacer of Topaz Labs (included in

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Antwort von kayburg:

What's with the premiere function "join fields"? The effect is clear, what disadvantages would I expect if I use the function to get rid of the stripes, my picture but still s.PC monitor AND television, or DVD player and projector would like to show? The function would be quite superficial, at least my problem already solved ... As an alternative, there's still synonymous "cilium reduction", but because we noticed slight blurring in the Picture.

Any advice?

Space


Antwort von kayburg:

PC-Monitor -> deinterlace
TV -> interlace

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Antwort von kayburg:

Quote: PC-Monitor -> deinterlace
TV -> interlace


The principle is clear to me. But I want to specifically know what happens if I deinterlace-tes (<- oh God) Material s.Television reflect ... Say: What kind of disadvantages when playing Beamer s.TV or should I expect if I have the option "Halbbiler join" using it? For example, blurring, noise or similar ...

Maybe someone can give me the answer.

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Antwort von TheBubble:

The "waves" in the field of view through a scaling of the image, without the Fields (fields) due to increase. The Fields (fields) must be scaled separately in applications. Maybe you've forgotten to say your software (or just inadvertently set incorrectly) that the raw material is not image, but a skip procedure.

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Antwort von kayburg:

If it is not synonymous called "lower field first"?

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Antwort von Markus:

A request s.die unannounced Schreiber / innen: Please use consistent nicknames so synonymous those who access your data can not see them (= all users to the admins and mods), guest posts can differentiate.

"One guest wrote: If it is not synonymous called "lower field first"?
When took the DV, but HDV is upper field first ".

"An (other) Guest" wrote: ... what happens if I deinterlace-tes (<- oh God) Material s.Television reflect ...
Look into this discussion:


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Antwort von Nelli:

Sorry for the confusion, I've obviously forgotten tologin ... the questions are, how we almost synonymous can remember, so all of me.

@ Markus: I've read through my thread, thanks for the link.
I think I will be the half of my clips, as planned, then join and see what my television says. Much time remains for me to experiment more and not as it looks, this feature is a good alternative.

Thanks for the help!

Space


Antwort von kayburg:

It will be bucking for horizontal movements, leave it in for TV interlace for soft Bewegungsaublauf, but this is already been written. Why do you always repeat?

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Antwort von Nelli:

Quote: Why do you always repeat?

You have to probably repeat because the problems of each case are different. My problem is crystal clear is that half the problem, despite all the attention to good advice when playing on the television is just like playing on a PC or video projector. If I could, I would obviously like to continue working with interlace, but it works in this specific case nunmal not. My problem is with the so-called premiere function done ... synonymous me when a certain loss of quality risk.

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