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Frage von dinofeet:


Hi All,

I imagined myself for my SonyHC1 have:
Beyerdynamic MCE S II 86 Cam bought.

Unfortunately I hear this microphone with a crazy background noise,
which is twice solaut, as is the built-in mic!
(if you pegelt the manual mic level to a value that one sees exactly s.den bars)

The noise changes when not:
- With or without 6 meter XLR Extension Cable
- With or without windshield
- 30 centimeters or 20 meters Distant sound source

I read here in the forum that the HC1 off the inter-microphone basis of resistance - which sometimes does not work. This I've tested, as I can blow someone in the internal Micro did, and my external with Mike and a 6 meter XLR cables, and two doors had been removed. But could see no deflection due by blowing. Even the TikTik (tape?) Noise which is recorded with the Internal Micro, is not available. Therefore, I infer from this error.

When I connect the external microphone s.meinen PC, I can not detect a striking background noise.

Maybe someone of you still a tip.
Thank you very much
Tichy

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Antwort von Wolf-007:

Did you already use a fitting for the HC1 of Sony Micro (auto Aufsteckschuh) to? Rustling synonymous?

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Antwort von Roma:

Read it at http://www.fxsupport.de/hc1/index.html.
Thus s.Page 4 he refers to the sound

Roger

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Antwort von MiXMaster:

"dinofeet" wrote: Hi All,

I imagined myself for my SonyHC1 have:
Beyerdynamic MCE S II 86 Cam bought.

Unfortunately I hear this microphone with a crazy background noise,
which is twice solaut, as is the built-in mic!
(if you pegelt the manual mic level to a value that one sees exactly s.den bars)

The noise changes when not:
- With or without 6 meter XLR Extension Cable
- With or without windshield
- 30 centimeters or 20 meters Distant sound source

I read here in the forum that the HC1 off the inter-microphone basis of resistance - which sometimes does not work. This I've tested, as I can blow someone in the internal Micro did, and my external with Mike and a 6 meter XLR cables, and two doors had been removed. But could see no deflection due by blowing. Even the TikTik (tape?) Noise which is recorded with the Internal Micro, is not available. Therefore, I infer from this error.

When I connect the external microphone s.meinen PC, I can not detect a striking background noise.

Maybe someone of you still a tip.
Thank you very much
Tichy

Since I s.meiner Pansonic NV-GS75 has the same effect, I would be interested sehrdaran whether or how you reach a Lösunf, I have unfortunately not yet succeeded.

Bernd

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Antwort von dinofeet:

Meanwhile, add the following tested:

If I buy a 5 euro Microphone infect s.The Camera, is half as loud as the roar with the Beyerdynamic and especially in a much lower frequency.

When using the MCE86 with the Mic-in s.PC (even + 20 db set), is no noise detectable.

With the official (and, according to test humble opinion) Sony Micro phone, I can not test it.
The Website is www.fxsupport I know, but could discover there is no evidence that solves my problem.

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Antwort von Robert Kleine:

"dinofeet" wrote: Meanwhile, add the following tested:

The Website is www.fxsupport I know, but could discover there is no evidence that solves my problem.


... Just like me: Have synonymous, the Beyerdynamic MCE S II 86, but s.meiner Panasonic MX-500 and it rushes relentlessly.
Also on the brilliant HC-1 blog, I really could not find a general solution.

Who has experience?

Robert

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Antwort von domain:

While I am absolutely no expert in the audio sector, have made my experience so synonymous with Noise. So there is not no downstream Micro and home electronics, which is completely noise-free. The noise extends over the entire frequency range, but is seen only at higher frequencies than unpleasant. It may also well be that it take in higher-value microphones, which for 20 kHz and more, is perceived as more unpleasant than cheap microphones.
For camcorders, and particularly in the HC1 and FX1 come with built-in microphones obviously high-and low-pass filter to the course, which ultimately revealed a nonlinear response with emphasis on the mid frequencies, and this makes sense in most cases synonymous, it is the most important frequency range for the human ear. Obviously, these electronics for external microphones s.der HC1 is turned off, which in turn is synonymous sense. So there is nothing else than the event, as editing programs specifically dampen the noise and variable. Specifically means that you take down there in quiet passages are more needs than that, because it goes down there anyway.

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Antwort von Meiko:

With a BeachTek XLR adapter, you can suppress this wonderful noise. The part is simply screwed under the camcorder. The adapter has professional XLR connectors. See www.profilmgear.de synonymous.

Greeting

Klaus

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Antwort von domain:

I can not quite imagine how a pure interface adapter could limit the noise. Except possibly it gets professional phantom power into play, but how that should go with the HC1?

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Antwort von akirasrebirth:

Hello
have the same problem with Beyerdynamic MCE S II 86 Cam and SonyFX1!

Gruss
Roland

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Antwort von ruessel:

So, now I have some microphones of 1 euro is connected to the Sennheiser 700 euros Micro s.der HC1. So good and "bad" microphones.

The original HC1 microphones are not only severely limited in the band, but very insensitive synonymous .... talk quietly!
That makes Sonyaus following reason: The tape drive is very loud, the zoom makes synonymous with noise and when you press a few buttons, your fingers will usually synonymous clearly recorded in the automatic mode. Since the original microphones of HC1 are very quiet, the automatic Tonauspegelung quite go to 100% and one still just noise.

Any halfway decent microphone, but now behaves differently, the Frequensbereich is significantly lower than 400Hz, the sensitivity is about 15 dB louder ..... 3dB more each doubling!

Now, if the inexperienced amateur sound is switched to automatic, the sound is now raised in the pauses until the pain threshold .... very least 15dB louder than the originals microphone. The whole it sounds very ugly and possibly synonymous rauschig .....

Since even a $ 10,000 Micro expensive would nix help!

Solution will remove the external as much as possible of the Micro Camera (min. 30 cm) and possibly on manual Tonausteuerung. Unfortunately, such a cheap camcorder and no high-quality phonograph, the sound unit (microphone amplifier) is not here with the components of your hi-fi CD player compare, neither the frequency nor the S / N ratio. A good Micro has so s.60dB noise ratio, a CD player 100dB.

But ....... that does not mean getting a little bit careful with the sound is not good ... quite the opposite!

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