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Frage von openblend:


Hi first, I'm new here so please forgive any violations. I have a question, if I am with the FX1 to tape record must I do with the MPEG2 compression and the resulting artifacts live.
How does, however, the Firewire output of the FX1 when I picture directly on a notebook to record returns the camera is already a compressed picture, or I could, for example, uncompressed capture better-keying results.
Similarly, the component output, which should actually play out completely uncompressed (except for the AD / DA conversion in advance).

Has anyone experience with this, or knows someone an external recording device as the mobile, but just over FW or component and if possible without MPEG2 can record.

Thanks in advance!

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Antwort von tommyb:

To find the normal Firewire HDV signal, just as it is synonymous of the tape would get.

With the Component-out you could actually get higher signal how strongly it is, however, of the camera internals "treated", is another question.

At best you make a comparison with Siemens star and your Green-/Bluescreen.

Otherwise, HDV is not really Keyen because s.Farbraum and b) anamorphic resolution, except the final result is SD, then you can at least HDV data in RGB or the like and then convert runterskalieren.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

"open dazzle" wrote: -----. someone knows an external recording device as the mobile, but just over FW ....... can record.

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Fire doors http://www.focusinfo.com/ is kind of hard disk recorder ne extra for cameras directly in various formats can record.

MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von openblend:

thank you, the fire tores will however also be fed via Firewire, which I apparently already MPEG2 encoded material and record again with the artifacts must fight.

I would be something in the direction of mobile components recorder downfall. Mir gehts primarily not about Green Screen (synonymous but not only) but rather the whole movement of the MPEG2 encoding artifacts somehow to avoid, but possible to be mobile and not on a notebook or a AJA instructed to be.

Easy HDD Recorder also have component in, sign on to hard drive and cost ¬ 300, would be perfect if HD, battery and small businesses. Will not someone to tinker ;-)

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"open dazzle" wrote: ... something in the direction of mobile components Recorder ...
Mobile hard disk recorder is synonymous of Data and Edirol Video: I'm not sure if they have other Firewire in addition to connectivity options are available. Yes you can on the respective homepages times to investigate.

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Antwort von volki:

what you want is VERY expensive.

I do not know if the FX-1, one has HDMI output?

eg V1E has an HDMI output, which is the uncompressed signal, as it is BEFORE Compression.

Now there are cards such as Blackmagic Intensity and possibly synonymous StormHD of Canopus (??), which can stream via HDMI into the PC carry.

BUT, the data is so great that it some time ago only hard-Raid-0 with min. 4 plates created the aufzuzeichen.

The principle is the only studio-ready, not mobile

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Antwort von Jogi:

@ open glare, The FX1 actually produced little Artfakte. to a very smooth and noise-free picture, LowLight also still in the area. A firework display artifacts quite reliably delivers a flash-storm and when any Cam in the MPEG-based codec.

According to your requirements, you need to get more of a Camera with HD-SDI output, but not necessarily synonymous for your purposes (mobility) of the question. About the SDI uncompressed Picture and often synonymous in the higher-bit 4:2:2 -10 Sampling-(eg in the EX1), immediately after the signal processing, worn. In this case, but loose data rates above 1 Gbit / sec.

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Antwort von serpenteye:

I have an FX1. I have not noticed on the video footage any artifacts are visible. If you like the picture is not good enough, then you buy another camera.

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Antwort von Jogi:

"serpenteye" wrote: I have an FX1. I have not noticed on the video footage any artifacts are visible. If you like the picture is not good enough, then you buy another camera.

Each HD / HDV Mpeg-CAM makes coding artifacts. Films but even a lightning-flash!

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Antwort von robbie:

"Jogi" wrote:
Each HD / HDV Mpeg-CAM makes coding artifacts. Films but even a lightning-flash!


It depends solely and alone of the data and the used Codierlogarithmen from.
For example, XDCAMHD makes 35MBits with HD, and a very good compression. Do you have a Blitzlichgewitter and a kind racing car in a driving swing filming WITHOUT artifacts that thou hast.

So please, no generalizations. Because I could just say, every AVCHD cam is shit.

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Antwort von Jogi:

"robbie" wrote: "Jogi" wrote:
Each HD / HDV Mpeg-CAM makes coding artifacts. Films but even a lightning-flash!


It depends solely and alone of the data and the used Codierlogarithmen from.
For example, XDCAMHD makes 35MBits with HD, and a very good compression. Do you have a Blitzlichgewitter and a kind racing car in a driving swing filming WITHOUT artifacts that thou hast.

So please, no generalizations. Because I could just say, every AVCHD cam is shit.


Even when there is XCDAM EX synonymous artifacts. But you must already closely. In the current picture, however, usually does not identify!

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