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Frage von shodushitanaka:


hello friends. hab mich in already read through the forums, have always only zusammengesammelt shreds. so you would need specific help / opinion.
I would like to see a new camera for a variety of areas such as image films, commercials, presentations, nature photography, short films growth. I am now not so professional in the matter in it, but would like a ändern.Ich had me totally in the SonyFX1 verknallt. But now to my mind:

I have nothing with HD "s.Hut" and would initially produce only in SD, but the FX1 attracts so much with its manual and the picture quality Bildeinstellmöglichkeiten (footage that I like to consider youtube helped me already), profile picture , etc. ..

1.Heisst but now, I pay a lot of money for the HD feature, which I do not actually need, in other words shoot sparrows with cannons?

2.kann I use the HD function can be turned off and completely normal in dv, without the need to convert large, and not quite my current computer to charge excessive?

3.Gibt a comparable Cam than SD? I have reports on the VX2100 views. I'm excited, but it can with the control / image quality of the FX1 (SD) to keep up?

4. Is it so that when I EndBild the best of the FX1 would like to have, only in HD and would later convert to SD, rather than directly on to SD? But it just takes so much computing power right in, right?

I had actually already there, the FX1 next week to order, why would you ask, my last doubts abzuschaffen.Ich knows that HD is the future but I think that there are very few (large mass) can play. and if I earn a little money, can I do next year is still to change ..

Thank you for your help.

Shodushi

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

So if the subject or to abgelutscht annoying is - sorry.
I thought at least someone says "think not long after, you simply buy the FX1!"

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Antwort von Dr. Walter Gesierich:

You're right, which surprised me, that is still None have been reported, the issue here at night or even completely fix.
First question: With what films you now?
The one I love new technology, if they are well and makes sense. Synonymous, but I've already kicked out some money, where the progress was not far enough, and as a beta tester of intermediate stages of development is my wallet too bad. And I think virtually all of today's HDV equipment for intermediate stages.
I film with a second-hand purchased SONY PD150 (= VX 2000) and am very satisfied. Concerts, theater, weddings, advertising movies and docu's cities. The people are with their DVD's will always highly satisfied, even in the snippets run regional television.
When I look in the video club first HDV colleagues Watching the films, tell me: pixel count in the film has a look of what are peas. I was once synonymous so that I am mistaken s.technischem progress could inspire. My son, who is filming synonymous, has shown me that a good story or good editing a film worth making, and not the pixels. He just filmed with a Sony PD100 (TRV 900).
We have a Video Club, which makes as good recherchieerte comments of his films since "hear" you look at the pictures. You follow it banned his interesting search that you do not come to the pixel count.
But it is precisely one of the first in the club, now is entered on HDV. Completely unnecessary, but he's just a freak ...
HDV does, however, to the nature of the film. He still swings since then slowly, without a tripod is s.Besten did nothing more (bad artifacts).
I hope that I could donate something consolation ...

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Prejudices. We must with HDV Tripod not work with non-synonymous and slowly pan. HDV is not necessary, but mandatory.

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Antwort von Wiro:

"shodushitanaka" wrote: I thought at least someone says "think not long after, you simply buy the FX1!"
Sag ich doch.
For the case with the "yet to produce SD":
You need not to use the calculator of HDV to DV herunterzukonvertieren. The camcorder does that for you - you only need it on when Capturn converter -> DV represent. Then it behaves like a normal DV camcorder, only that he is the high definition footage on the fly to DV herunterrechnet. And what comes out is better than if you directly in DV would have recorded. Promise.

Many HDV filmmakers today make it so if they (still) want to stay on SD / need. So you just buy the FX1.
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

thank you for the reply

"Wiro" wrote: you simply buy the FX1.
so why not the same: O)

"Dr. Walter Gesierich" wrote: My son, who is filming synonymous, has shown me that a good story or good editing a film worth making, and not the pixels. He just filmed with a Sony PD100 (TRV = 900 )....
I agree with you. find synonymous, raises the idea in many cases the technology on. I film for about 6 years with a loyal but slowly decaying TRV-828 on. s.and to a canon XM1 borrowed.
've helped me, what can you really synonymous pixel count ... But as I said, HD is not the first priority and my heart beats for the FX1, so it should be.
andthe "sudden" decision-push of WIRO has done his Rest.

Thanks, I am in between times

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

've ordered it and enjoy myself as a child ...

... incidentally, my first retro-asia-Anatolia karate film.
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=zv1KCNlQk_4
incidentally, is from 10 minutes of fun and raw material emerged. perhaps an opinion on the overall arrangement.

viel spass gruss and,

shodushi

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Naja. Timbers.

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Antwort von christopher:

Poignant, sophisticated story. Actually I'm not the type, the same losheult. But in this video, I tell you, ...

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Antwort von baststar:

I'm not an expert synonymous film, but some things fall to me but then have to ... the "fast" axis jumps and in the detail shots from the face as we had to puzzle of who is who ... I personally find that not soo good ... and a tripod would have been great:)
But I did not even own ne kamera (spare but very busy for the xh s.and accessories ... but it is difficult as (medien-computer science) student

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

@ Christopher
I think it is synonymous itself again and again very very dramatic: O)

@ PowerMac:
Well, a bit of wood already, but you know that yes, the friends make such a video has a lot of fun inne backen.

gracias por su colaboración,
Shodushi

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Antwort von DWUA:

And if you've successfully filmed, register 8-syllable back.
For example, as "Shodushima Tanakara".
You know what is meant.
If not you, who else

;)

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Antwort von chlorophyll:

Hello,

I would you like in any case recommend the FX1.

The Cam is an absolute workhorse and synonymous of low price speaks for them. The options offer you the chance to be great shots, if you're involved.

I think the question about whether HD is a good investment, one must no longer debatable. The difference you will clearly see.

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Antwort von christian31:

"Anonymous" wrote: Hello,

I would you like in any case recommend the FX1.

The Cam is an absolute workhorse and synonymous of low price speaks for them. The options offer you the chance to be great shots, if you're involved.

I think the question about whether HD is a good investment, one must no longer debatable. The difference you will clearly see.


Because I fully agree, but ... HE HAS ALREADY BUT YOU ORDER :-)

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

ICH HAB YOU, YOU HAB ICH, ICH HAB YOU !!!!!! (since 2 days)
my goodness, this thing is soooo sexy. when you consider what it means for a big jump is, to what I previously had the manual settings, etc ... helped me to fully.
I could watch again and again, feel, .. put - make - put ...).
Tomorrow is my first right of free tag to rauszufahren her with everything and really try. mallorca offers and yes to a few lucky not motive.
I have even thought to ask here if someone tips on various settings can give (exposure, picture profiles, which setting to what situations, etc.) or whether it was a book or dvd on there, but the best, accurate load , instructions and text marker and take into hineingestürzt monster. I, the possibilities for so long ausreizen, and try until I am one with her.
surely there is always better and more expensive equipment but that's me for the next 2 years completely honest no preference, i love my sony,
my hearty laughs and I hope I can think of virgin and Civil such enthusiasm for a long time preserving, ie, the audience will
I have never been and never ask how many pixel interpolation compensator-flicker-blackbox-bits I have read and if you do not could have done better, bla bla bla .... (would like the professionals do not come too close, but look forward to synonymous, sometime on this text to be able to smile).
you just wanted to say I'm happy.

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Antwort von mann:

"PowerMac" wrote: Prejudices. We must with HDV Tripod not work with non-synonymous and slowly pan. HDV is not necessary, but mandatory.

So I think the Lord Gesierich.

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Antwort von minidv:

Congratulations :-)

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Antwort von Eugen von ...:

Use a tripod whenever possible. But this is nothing new for HDV. A wackelnder horizon was always on, the wider the picture was.
For FX1, I would specially the image stabilization on "normal" place (off when they are on the tripod or the like is). "Hard" movements would be even better balance, but the camera then synonymous deliberate movements working against something. After a swing, it will be, for example, a sideways movement Picture Pendulum bring ...
"Hard" is recommended if the Keep Calm otherwise no longer works, in strong winds, for example.
Without a tripod, I would only shoot if your project requires it or you do not really use it (too lazy to tow does not count as a reason). In some places, a simple tripod synonymous prohibited. Always helpful: the good old bean bag ;-)

Eugen

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"Mann" wrote: "PowerMac" wrote: Prejudices. We must with HDV Tripod not work with non-synonymous and slowly pan. HDV is not necessary, but mandatory.

So I think the Lord Gesierich.


There are no scientific and no experience-based reasoning. Why should a camera format, the image design dictate?

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Antwort von Jan:

I see this as synonymous Patrick.

There is often a bad Anschaupanel used, or the calculator is busy. Or SW player comes with the material is not 100% right.

If you hold a 50 Hz LCD Television searched - then gibts halt blurring - this is not s.Ausgangsmaterial. Just good plasma or 100 HZ LCD Television Test - and be amazed ....

And then when I test here with the sister HDR FX 7 (Tournament), one has clearly synonymous seen that you have faster swing may HDV.

I've got umpteen times synonymous FX 7 freely hand moves - das is clearly a little effort you have already given, but that is synonymous with the PD 170 so.

Sonyhat so now the new HVR Z 7 rausgebracht, which is so similar Lowlightqualitäten (which you never would have thought) as the VX 2100, but unfortunately for the double price of a FX 1 (5400 ¬).

Yes, good editing and story are worth gold, when the HD but dominated the film - the good old PAL camera in many situations is lost.

Is always funny as PAL intrepid filmmakers an already lost battle against high-definition fight out ....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von r.p.television:

With HDV, you can basically just get out of hand as it used to filming with DV or other formats.
The only reason driftige perhaps more times to Tripod to grasp is that the 16:9 format slate or slightly fluctuating horizon disturbs more than 4:3. But this has nothing specifically to do with HDV, but with the screen aspect ratio.

Did I say a little bubble for the accessory shoe bought my XH A1, because you can sometimes get in the viewfinders of the subject based recognize that's not straight or not. The error then go s.Schnittplatz.

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Antwort von mann:

[quote = "rptelevision"] With HDV, you can basically just get out of hand as it used to filming with DV or other formats.

... I think the Lord Gesierich.

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Antwort von comix:

"PowerMac" wrote: Prejudices. We must with HDV Tripod not work with non-synonymous and slowly pan. HDV is not necessary, but mandatory.
Confirm das

Gesierich .. you have really the classic-Prejudices gezaubert from your hat. And in the argument always follows synonymous "You have the story on eight" - Bullshit. Should any HDV filmmakers an idiot in his stories to create? This is just a cheap excuse to something completely abstruse aims. HD is here, and HD (V) is ausgreift, skin to HD. If you have a technology ollen the objectors with their ollen Kamellen still in 2008 ... oh, I let it.

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

leute what goes ... can überhaupt nix against the picture say whether hd sd. or synonymous yes we could start today's technology with vhs-c 8mm and to compare, and then it was synonymous with the good quality.

other cause: old Swede, I have noticed that the FX1 already after 10 minutes of film is extremely difficult and rather goes in the arm. I consider me a Flycam 3000 Tripod-inclusive zuzulegen vest.



Otherwise, there are indeed genuine NEN wolf or there is a tendon sheath inflammation necessarily abo. and with the West / holder (probably the weight of synonymous relieved), the stativproplem then probably synonymous solved.

gruss,
shodushi

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Antwort von r.p.television:

Believe not that the shooting with the vest Flycam 3000 and is less tiring. I fear, rather the opposite, especially since you have a floating system can not use.

Counter proposal: A little lift weights and general fitness ensured. Can work wonders and you see synonymous not look like a trump vollgekackter ladies.

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

thank you for your reply, though, does not make me weak. if I have the whole weight-ne hour to an arm or whether it is based on the rod of the entire torso is supported but is quite a difference, right? you have personal experience with it?

and if dumb-bells, and then only for the left arm, the right will probably auto dick: O)

I have sowieseo a "problem", I'm left-handed and known for is all right for, so think ichdie camera with normal right but they always lead with the left (near d. summarize lens), but the tripod, it is no preference which leads to hand, ..

physical-psychological question (serious): it unfolds in the creativity / camera work less, or you are prevented (now would not be hindered write) if everything with the "wrong" side does? in the guitar, the changeover solala during filming but I just can not 100% tuned accustomed to for years ...

grad smiles perhaps one or the other (right), but please take your time and 5 minutes time filming a bit with the left arm, then you know what I mean.

I compare it with a painter whose creative side in the left arm and he is forced, with the right to paint. what are the experiences of left-handers in general, any tips?

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Antwort von weitwinkel:

sometimes on a monopod like the Manfrotto 560B
thought?
http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=3634&threadview=0&hilight=&hilightuser=0&page=1
gruß cj

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Antwort von Markus:

"shodushitanaka" wrote: physical-psychological question (serious): it unfolds in the creativity / camera work less, or you are prevented (now would not be hindered write) if everything with the "wrong" side does?
I know of something similar from another area, so your question, I would with a clear answer Yes.

The Camera is only a means to an end and if you are aware of each handle must rethink, because of what a right way, can do, of you must be aware, then a part of the attention s.die bound Handling the Camera .

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"shodushitanaka" wrote: (...) Physical-psychological question (serious): it unfolds in the creativity / camera work less, or you are prevented (now would not be hindered write) if everything with the "wrong" side is (...)

Since I have a little research. But I would present the argument "no" dare.

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Antwort von Markus:

The first impression may be antagonistic effect, but I guess that the time factor has a significant influence. Who of his environment is being impeded, might need longer to the same goal as someone for whom something is optimal. It is therefore likely that of the actual task is dependent on the extent to which a camera designed for a right-left-handers in terms of creativity and camera work ausbremst.

EB would be less ideal, because often worked under time pressure and must be something rarely repeat it. Since the left-handed at best handles set (need) and less risk (want to), rather than a less creative, but "safe" recording, as a scene, the creative act, but instead, an apparent operating error shows (possibly = Committee).

Staged works are so critical, because it is the desired result and introduce the necessary motions practice, before it goes s.die Studio. But that is not synonymous limitless, because every movie has a sometime synonymous completion date.

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Basically the issue is worth a dissertation.
You should only define creativity and of camera work to define. Creative camera work would have meant. camera work is something else again, that's just the pan and moving the camera itself, the question is: can we or a creative (artistic) success of the Camera and experienced technical mastery of the instrument to differentiate? That is difficult. Technical mastery, I would s.Wissen in the technology and b) specific skills divide. The creative camera work is quite difficult. Can talent be? An artistic talent? As a "rough summary" I would predict the more artistically demanding, the camera work, the more insignificant managing the technology. But you must again differentiate between synonymous camera work and camera work. Many cameramen are just DoP and summarize the camera itself is not on. There are only an abstract understanding of space, artistic talent and experience. Or: the planned rotation of more unimportant it is to be left-handed. But you will need to be accurately classified only in theory and could then start some investigations.

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Antwort von shodushitanaka:

Many thanks for your effort and the most interesting approaches. it must first sort out ....

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Antwort von DWUA:

@ Shodushitanaka

Now is synonymous clear why you longer "hand hold" - recording as a concern! (Tension).
As a "real" (not "disguised"), you have really left-handed
a problem.
Unfortunately, there is only "right" cameras.
No, the "convenient" for you.
It is you, after all, dealing with it (handling).

There's only one thing:
Acclimatization.

Just as our one in "right hand" in the left side of the road
accustom can you succeed with security
fine in the field much sooner, after and after
to be safe.

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