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Farbcorrectur- dem Film einen Look geben

Farbcorrectur-give the film a look



Frage von EddiLomax:
Oktober 2010

I've been rummaging through various tutorials, but nothing really matches found. I use Sony Vegas Pro 9 and would like to give my material a look in this Short Film:
http://vimeo.com/2989396

What do I do that? What video Fx? What about settings?
I'm with the many features simply can not cope ...



Antwort von tommyb:

So to all was the first film with a film adapter / a VDSLR rotated - thus synonymous of beautiful blurred background. You do not get with plug-ins out in the mail - except with many forms of hand.

For the colors:
In part this was probably deliberately set in beautiful natural colors (for recordings), because light is not a matter of filtering in post processing but is already playing a significant role in the recording.

In effect, the natural colors are synonymous s.den rumgefummelt - Contrast curve changes, saturation and so wound up

If you are looking for the easiest possible ways for such colors, then cross to these collections, the many pre-filters have presets (which costs money, however, synonymous).



Antwort von EddiLomax:

Money is in short supply ... I actually permanently
with the depth of field was already clear to me, there is somehow directly runterladbare presets for color correction of sony vegas?





Antwort von Axel:

The spot is far too long and actually quite pointless. As a biker thinks you might just yet, you can drive with steel mesh in the shell of broken glass, but who still does is stupid, and that is shown twice, still stupid.

Also, the grading is a matter of taste. The invaluable beautiful light of late afternoon, down contrast and softens shadows, whereas here everything was getweakt that there is no middle. The spot makes you thirsty.

How it's made, that he looks so crisp (for which he does)? Color correction: depth to zero (waveform or what you have in Vegas), hundreds of heights, saturation high, in part,'s looks like that red and / or blue were synonymous amplified individually.



Antwort von EddiLomax:

What do you mean with wave form?
Do you think the color correction curves on these adjustable, the man with the mouse must move?



Antwort von domain:

was already evident before the shooting an art concept, namely the color red is seen especially in what remained of the shadows still remain, namely special corrections toward magenta. Otherwise it was actually already said it all: decrease brightness and contrast enhancement with the lights again to bring rays possibly raise additional saturation and of any special adjustments of individual colors for highlights, midtones and shadows separately. In any better NLE no special art, if you know what you want.
In some scenes, however, was tricked significantly higher.



Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"EddiLomax" wrote:
I've been rummaging through various tutorials, but nothing really matches found. I use Sony Vegas Pro 9 and would like to give my material a look in this Short Film:
http://vimeo.com/2989396

What do I do that? What video Fx? What about settings?
I'm with the many features simply can not cope ...


Why are you going to do that? A clip that is already out in the first three sections, the skin turns purple, yellow and red, you should not take as a reference, which has made a lay person has no idea of color grading.

Next I need to look not at all, this is amateur crap.

MB



Antwort von Heinrich123:

Times have ne question about the possibility of control of the grading.
Good for a Matrox MO2 Mini and a Sony Bravia Television of Or should it be more of a computer monitor?

Have Color as a software
Gave her as a recommendation?



Antwort von Mantas:

"Marc ballhaus" wrote:

Why are you going to do that? A clip that is already out in the first three sections, the skin turns purple, yellow and red, you should not take as a reference, which has made a lay person has no idea of color grading.

Next I need to look not at all, this is amateur crap.

MB


Well if he likes.

I see something synonymous rather than a single look from the crime scene.



Antwort von Marco:

"Color correction: zero depth (wave form, or what you have in) Vegas, hundreds of heights on"

Do you control in Vegas Pro with the filter "levels" and by the waveform monitor, you can switch to the View menu ("Video Scopes").

"'s Part looks like that red and / or blue individually have been strengthened synonymous."

In Vegas Pro Filter by "Color Curves" to implement.

Otherwise, accept the default filter: "Color Corrector".

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Antwort von domain:

That is probably far from an amateur video. But in one I have to give MarcB right, the various magenta colors are a bit pushy and are already beginning to tire mounting for the first time in the skin tones.
But that is peanuts. Overall, a well-considered concept already filming. The light, the perspectives, the cut and the sound is absolutely no match amateur junk.



Antwort von Maze:

"Marc ballhaus" wrote:

Why are you going to do that? A clip that is already out in the first three sections, the skin turns purple, yellow and red, you should not take as a reference, which has made a lay person has no idea of color grading.

Next I need to look not at all, this is amateur crap.

MB


Exactly match the skin tones have. This is the art s.Colorgrading. There was the middle of planning in the lights and the color curve changed apparently. On top of that outshine the lights and drink from the depths, so that despite the banging sun Picture almost seems too dark.

nevertheless, you asked so after such a look. Is with a Levels tool and to get a simple 3-way color correction.



Antwort von domain:

There are no absolute colors, as is claimed again and again as the skin tones or the leaf green, that's all nonsense.
But something there is already: these colors should appear in relation to the other object-color plausible and are not necessarily shown in the section just behind the other in so many different shades. The brain needs some time for internal automatic White Balance ....



Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"Heinrich123" wrote:
Times have ne question about the possibility of control of the grading.
Good for a Matrox MO2 Mini and a Sony Bravia Television of Or should it be more of a computer monitor?

Have Color as a software
Gave her as a recommendation?


None of both, you need a color-screen you by the HD-SDI ansteuerst, just so you go out of the way gamma-stress. AJA Kona LHe get ne, an EIZO CG 24xxx and an HD-SDI / DVI converter, then you are with almost 4000 EUR rates here.

"Domain" wrote:
That is probably far from an amateur video. But in one I have to give MarcB right, the various magenta colors are a bit pushy and are already beginning to tire mounting for the first time in the skin tones.
But that is peanuts. Overall, a well-considered concept already filming. The light, the perspectives, the cut and the sound is absolutely no match amateur junk.


Basically you're right, color grading does not start in the post but before filming. I can only do the grading really smart, what has been lit in accordance with the direction in which the finals will go look. Best example: CSI Miami. Skin seems to always be lit with artificial light, while the remainder is supplied with HMI and colors shoots. Mixed light the way, is great if you know what you do.

And if all that did not work or has not thought about it, it just makes black and white ... or, as here: pointless colorful.

MB



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Color correction in the post is often much gimmick. No one tells you before: I turn now purely one or the other. You look s.and results considering what is missing his target of choice.

What me in your video rather negative auffält, the red on the skin, just s.Anfang when the tires are raised like me is not at all to extremely.

All a matter of taste!

Greetings!



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

For AfterFX there are "magic bullet". They are ready-made presets, all with the standard plug-ins of Adobe AfterFX.

Here are a few examples:




Antwort von Blackeagle123:

But now, but still found something. Check out this video here:
http://vimeo.com/1216509

Accordingly Gibts Magic Bullet for Vegas synonymous.

You can watch you here synonymous correction in the video in its entirety without direct Comparison Color: http://vimeo.com/1225769

Greetings!



Antwort von B.DeKid:

We get served up color palettes



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

What color palettes? From a customer, as he later vorstellet film?

I could honestly start with color palettes little. I need a detailed description of the film look and the DOP s.besten here. I think it is absolutely necessary.

Greetings!



Antwort von EddiLomax:

"Marco" wrote:
"Color correction: zero depth (wave form, or what you have in) Vegas, hundreds of heights on"

Do you control in Vegas Pro with the filter "levels" and by the waveform monitor, you can switch to the View menu ("Video Scopes").

"'s Part looks like that red and / or blue individually have been strengthened synonymous."

In Vegas Pro Filter by "Color Curves" to implement.

Otherwise, accept the default filter: "Color Corrector".

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de



Heights and depths, so according to my understanding, only shadows and highlights are you? Heights and depths are still colloquially ...
so I figure it out the back, because I can set at levels so only the brightness for red green blue alpha or all channels. Do I need if I want to change RG and B to apply the filter that is three times?
What's Height and Depth? I view things not ...



Antwort von PowerMac:

"Marc ballhaus" wrote:
"Heinrich123" wrote:
(...)
Good for a Matrox MO2 Mini (...)


None of both, you need a color-screen you by the HD-SDI ansteuerst, just so you go out of the way gamma-stress. AJA Kona LHe get ne, an EIZO CG 24xxx and an HD-SDI / DVI converter, then you are with almost 4000 EUR rates here. (...)



Nonsense. A Matrox MXO 2 Mini is the same.

The conversion of HD-SDI to DVI is the way a problem, why do you suggest it?

A colorimeter is still important.



Antwort von pilskopf:

So I'll use quite like this effect filters, because there you can change individual colors easily. Is quite nice and convenient. grading course, now in conjunction with the other. MBL is of course brilliant.

http://www.slashcam.de/news/single/Kostenlose-GPU-Color correction-for-Vegas --- AAV-Color-7601.html
http://aav6cc.blogspot.com/2009/05/aav-colorlab-10-release-candidate-2.html

Most importantly, however, and we see that clearly synonymous in the example video that you turn to a warm evening sun. The colors are just tired of great contrasts, great shadows, great Dynamics. well you can work with.



Antwort von Axel:

"EddiLomax" wrote:
Heights and depths, so according to my understanding, only shadows and highlights are you? Heights and depths are still colloquially ...
so I figure it out the back, because I can set at levels so only the brightness for red green blue alpha or all channels. Do I need if I want to change RG and B to apply the filter that is three times?
What's Height and Depth? I view things not ...


RGB three color channels each with 256 (0-255) intensity levels (saturation). The system is additive, 255/255/255 (red, green and blue in each case the highest color intensity) give pure white (in other words one hundred percent), 0/0/0 (zero percent) is black. With the color wheel in a color correction tool I can both make the shadows green and orange, the brighter areas (modern), as synonymous - at the same ratio of three colors - make the picture brighter or darker uniform (127/127/127 is gray). Usually, the video is but from the YCbCr color space, in the "Y" for an independent brightness of the color information is information and Cb, Cr for color difference, but only in passing. A video that is so exposed that it presents a uniform and balanced curve ("curves", such as a picture with many colors and many gradations of brightness) is postprocess tend to be better than a white sky over a coal mine. Today, beautiful Indian summer evening would have been as ideal for shooting, as he offered a very even light. No overexposed sky, no black sticks as branches - contrasts! Even the first thing one of a color correction, often with it - even s.den color something is changed before - is to point to as white or nearly white to define the brightest and the darkest point as a black or nearly black. This procedure can increase the contrast, the picture makes harder, stronger, more expressive. What is the difference to a controller "Contrast" is? That it will work under the appearance of the subject makes and by eye.



Antwort von pilskopf:

Otherwise, I'm still in NEM 'neighbor forum a thread.
http://www.dslr-forum.de/showthread.php?t=662372&highlight=color+grading



Antwort von MarcBallhaus:

"PowerMac" wrote:


Nonsense. A Matrox MXO 2 Mini is the same.

The conversion of HD-SDI to DVI is the way a problem, why do you suggest it?

A colorimeter is still important.


The thing I do not know Matrox, Matrox has always been what home users Excessive, I personally do not like. As the signal comes from the Mac in there for?

The conversion of HD-SDI to DVI is problematic? I do not know, not really. The path of an HD-SDI interface and the subsequent conversion to DVI is for me simply the clearest way by s.jeglichen color profile cases of monitor, graphics card and an elegant circumnavigation of the gamma issue. But it is important that you have a monitor that supports hardware side, color profiles, so the recommendation of the more expensive EIZO, which of course must be measured with a colorimeter.

If such a setup as you, it is bomb-proof and in particular indicate reasonably color accurate, since nothing slips.

"Blackeagle123" wrote:


For a quick color correction or approximate ideas a good solution. Whether it is for the Vegas, I do not know.

Best regards,
Constantin


I think it is a rumor that one with MB Looks is fast. I've tried this once because I did not have much time and it tilted a few hours, because first I was not satisfied with the look and second, I found it extremely slow and inflexible, I'm done with Color three times as fast and much faster s . s.den the individual settings each clip it. Looks also offers absolutely no reasonable external preview.

From the functional MBL is not synonymous with a true color grading comparable. I think about it at all. Looks very promising only fast, it can not keep. Many things go just not at it. Of the TO clip linked me looks much like MBL.

MB



Antwort von pilskopf:

What color is in fact so fundamentally different? Actually, every video that I particularly like graded it, so there just has to be something in it but what you can do more than with other NLEs?



Antwort von Axel:

It renders the highest quality ("Floating Point"), but the others can Programs synonymous. Above all, it is probably the workflow:
> You know the timeline import.
'You first corrections Lead Ropes (remove stitches, optimize values) by the room "in Primary.
> You Lead Ropes corrections by s.Picture games that you masks (trackable custom paths), vignettes and color keys isolierst through the next room.
> The complete timeline you know it can be corrected with effects that are with noodles (Verbindungsfädchen) combine. There is a free extensible synonymous Look-range in the sense of magic bullet in the next room.
> With the help of reference images can you compare the clips and correct them in another "wash", the last before exporting it again and adjust the style today.

The logic behind this order would lead synonymous in other programs to better results.



Antwort von Korbi:

Marc @ ballhaus: signal comes via PCIe or ExpressCard.

pretty synonymous, that the Mini does MXO2 synonymous in color. the well known, can not all video interfaces.

I think that is an HP LP2475 via hdmi s.das MXO2 Mini connected quite a good low-cost option grading.

for calibration I would not use the built-in mini MXO2 blue-only mode, but trying to use good colorimeters (Spyder3 or so) to find and the OSD menu is a good setting.



Antwort von Korbi:

've forgotten something. Others talked about here is hd-sdi. be for the videos played on the Internet I would consider this a very good and very well-calibrated monitor is connected via dvi to straight. the video is finally over later synonymous dvi (ie rgb) is received.



Antwort von Marco:

"Because at Levels I, only the brightness for red, green blue or alpha channels to all yes."

Even if the filter "levels" can be successively applied to the three color channels, it is actually meant to bring black and white values (heights and depths) to an even keel. The term "brightness" is not here. It is a manipulation of the contrast curve in the lowest and highest range.

If you like the curves of all color channels separately, but want to change within a filter, then use "Color Curves".

Marco
www.vegasvideo.de




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