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Frage von 50Chris:
Februar 2010

Hey,

have to go to my Abi on a film academy. However, I would not want antanzen without practical knowledge. That is why I am looking for a camcorder, with whom I 1st Practice (can, recording, editing, management, etc.) and 2 Turn one, but rather professionel acting, short film could (; to be accepted as synonymous to increase my chances s.der school, too).

About 500 ¬ will fund already difficult to'm just still in school.

I can imagine 'before ne camera that is both a good image quality could have put (; synonymous in darker areas, if not) even in a fairly dark room, with the synonymous But even during the recording, such as a slow motion effect over it.

Is there such a cheap camera, can it? : /

I'm quite new in the industry and I know there is not enough. So if you'd beat me since I Could help.

Thanks for any schonmal Helpful answer. : D



Antwort von pilskopf:

You bräcuhtest ne 50i with HDV Cam so you can easily accomplish ne slow motion in the post, probably would ne used HV20 is right for you, but a lowlight need not expect miraculous, but your budget is simply not enough. Convince the people rather synonymous with a very good idea and not with the action. They are likely, and hopefully those professionals who will watch movies and want to see talent and I hope no one recognizes talent and Blender quickly if one is familiar. Ner with a blender 5D is synonymous recognize immediately.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

And I wuerd conferred upon me once again synonymous with film school ... So just because you're "da mal drauf Bock," it is done so not really!


MfG
B. DeKid

Ne ne used Canon HV would be really good choice.





Antwort von pilskopf:

Ne SonyHC7 course is still synonymous. : D But you're right, without practice you will not get far but maybe you can help even a seasoned film with your implementation.



Antwort von shipoffools:

"50Chris" wrote:
...

I can imagine 'before ne camera, which has both a good image quality (synonymous in darker areas, if not) even in relatively dark rooms, with the man ...


How about with LIGHT? - Only in this way as a little tip ...

And believe me: what camera you should buy you is the smallest problem, if you really want to be included s.einer film school. Dealing with you extensively to the theory of filming. If you have internalized this, you even know what a camera or necessarily should have been able and what is not.
Only this much is: Makes sense, that you can adjust aperture, shutter speed, focus, white balance and possibly ND filter Wide Anglehat manual and semi-reasonable. And do not forget the good sound and not the tripod ...

Raw material for the theory:
"Textbook of film design," Pierre Kandorfer

or visit:
movie-college.de



Antwort von JonasB:

At what stage the biste?
You remind me blinded by vlt ... I'm wrong. If you want to go to film school, ne, ne you need some passion. This should result in my opinion, if you eg have your first short film rotated.
I wonder why you want to go that route? Because you have seen nen cool movie? Because look like the guys in the film world so happy?
That would be motivation, you s.dennen but with the time you go broke, because they include false targets.
But I have no desire to take the courage, on the contrary, do it!, I became addicted to hats: P Finds horny when young people targets as we have. Also yes there is no reason that is a motivating passion;)


In terms of camera have already been given good tips. Bring you to make the basis of technology in learning and then films ...

Vlt I would have something for you:

http://forum.slashcam.de/nv-gs320-35mm-adapter-zu-verkaufen-vt78594.html?highlight=320

Sell my old grad Equiment. With the stuff you can register for a favorable level, practical, incorporated into the technology.
Fully manual, relatively Lichtstark (But shit on Lichtstark, Lernszenarien illumination, if synonymous with construction lights) and in conjunction with the 35mm adapter is still much more to learn. In addition, the DV only, you will need, therefore, no mega-Calculator. I want it really s.Leute just like you sell. ;)

What is rauszuholen with the stuff you siehts example, in the teaser. But would I get something cheap to learn and if you believe that you have the mega idea to lend to good Equiment. Only Equiment good idea with no practical results in nothing.

The camera was still in there with eBay, has been synonymous auction, only the "lucky" has asked me to cancel the auction. Theoretically, it is therefore to have again.

Have they thoroughly described in the thread.

Register if you are interested:

JonasBomba@aol.com

And stay tuned;)

MFG

Jonas



Antwort von 50Chris:

I give no Pauschalantwort times, but go to every one again:

@ pilskopf


Ebay and Amazon (My standard shops), I find no Canon HV20, perhaps you know more reputable sites where you could dabble times after the action?

And probably you're right, talent is pertinent. But I do not want with a 50 ¬ camcorder 'nen film shoot ^ ^.

I also want to try selbstbeizubringen everything to me, so learning by doing, so wär'ne Camera with few manual settings, well, I think.

@ shipoffools


Of course, good lighting is important. I would not now in a dark room and trying to block something to turn.
But again, I am a student, so I can not buy THE Equip, which I can well illuminate.
Hope you understand what I'm getting ^ ^.

On the subject of film school, I do not think that if I know the theory of film, it hits me like a blow, and suddenly I can start with what all the terminology and so knows which camera is mounted.
Right now I really do not know me out with cameras, so I want a good (price / performance) camera, with the practice I can, but it should be that far I could shoot one short film synonymous.


@ JonasB

Bin in the 12th And saving my money for 'ne camera through the money I earn through giving guitar lessons zusammen.Yes, probably I'm blinded. Bin halt 'nen dreamer. , D
I just love movies and I can not later 'have nen office job to become a doctor or imagined ... Can not imagine just have 'nen 08/15 job.
But of course you're right, the passion for the film itself develops only when one is filming. This is precisely why I need a camera: D.
It may be that I am after I one, two short films have rotated realize that although I love movies, but not much with itself can begin filming.
As you already say that young people need goals.

In response to your camera I'll just write another e-mail. ^ ^



Antwort von pilskopf:

Do find it here under a thread on where you are looking for an HDV camcorder, this is often offered such camcorder if sometimes synonymous to the moon but as prices have to press the stop price.



Antwort von shipoffools:

"50Chris" wrote:

...
On the subject of film school, I do not think that if I know the theory of film, it hits me like a blow, and suddenly I can start with what all the terminology and so knows which camera is mounted.
Right now I really do not know me out with cameras, so I want a good (price / performance) camera, with the practice I can, but it should be that far I could shoot one short film synonymous.
...
But of course you're right, the passion for the film itself develops only when one is filming. This is precisely why I need a camera: D.
It may be that I am after I one, two short films have rotated realize that although I love movies, but not much with itself can begin filming.
As you already say that young people need goals ...


Sure, a camera is important to practice. But what do you use the best camera if you do not know how you should properly apply it?

Buying a camcorder and draufhalten on everything that moves (not), or synonymous, without sense and understanding can every idiot. And that's what make 99.9xx percent of camcorder owners, because they lack the simplest basics.
To s.einer Filmhochschule mind (to be accepted a government), but you need not only the basic fundamentals.
In a film school, it is like with a college of music:
There will be received only people who say their specialty (you have instrument) previously mastered. Since it is not to teach the students to play, but to perfect the playing of the musician to cause a degree of virtuosity. Not for nothing is always assumed that only a tiny percentage of the many candidates.
So swindler you are in terms of shooting and everything you heard about this previously fit or you can just forget it.
Thus nunmal the reality and the you have to accept.



Antwort von 50Chris:

Since you mention already the subject of an instrument, you know they are especially suitable to practice through. You can play over 100 Books to read with guitar techniques, mechanisms, and notes. But then if you really take yourself a guitar in hand, you see that you really can not.

That's why I'd not with theory but with starting the practice.
I do not want draufhalten stubborn, but try the test out camera, different perspectives and attitudes to me to create your own picture to.
Of course I can not push me to the theory, but after your statement is the theory s.höchster body and that is well noted in my opinion, simply not true.



Antwort von pilskopf:

Do something quiet in practice, only one has even remember where it hooks to the Rotate. We must find out so only time one is likely s.seine limits. If you have ne Cam you'll notice first that the Wide Anglezu is low. If one wants to move with the action you will notice the lack of ne ne steadies or dolly. Then you will realize that nothing is without light and only grieseln etc. remains synonymous learned so very well.



Antwort von JonasB:

"pilskopf" wrote:
If you have ne Cam you'll notice first that the Wide Anglezu is low. If one wants to move with the action you will notice the lack of ne ne steadies or dolly. Then you will realize that nothing is without light and only grieseln etc. remains synonymous learned so very well.


Do I look as synonymous ...
Geb euch mal das hier:



I Find it very motivating and makes your statements:

If you're creative you have to learn the craft.
If you're not creative, you bring the craft not synonymous.

Only one can learn creativity as opposed to the craft is difficult to not at actually.

Bla bla bla, you will soon see what applies to you: P

In the 12th .. if you have in front just after the Abi ne vernüpftige to go to film school you had to buck up ...

Finding the right camera is to make the movies, with security, the easy part: P

MFG

Jonas

PS Even if I'm the biggest fan of his shooting, I think Robert Rodriguez is very motivating. Can really every young film maker, without that book "Rebel recommend Crew" (Gibs, in English only). This pushes a properly and gives one the courage to make it easy, unlike many theory, which is more degrading, yes entmutigent.



Antwort von 50Chris:

Robert Rodriguez is really motivating.

Since synonymous gibts noch 'nen cooles Video of the ComicCon, synonymous very motivating I think.



Yeah I must buck up. That is why I need quickly 'ne decent camera at an affordable price. ^ ^



Antwort von shipoffools:

"50Chris" wrote:
Since you mention already the subject of an instrument, you know they are especially suitable to practice through. You can play over 100 Books to read with guitar techniques, mechanisms, and notes. But then if you really take yourself a guitar in hand, you see that you really can not.

That's why I'd not with theory but with starting the practice.
I do not want draufhalten stubborn, but try the test out camera, different perspectives and attitudes to me to create your own picture to.
Of course I can not push me to the theory, but after your statement is the theory s.höchster body and that is well noted in my opinion, simply not true.



You do not seem to understand me or do not understand, rather, to want.
Since you already have learned an instrument, you know that you even know before the first practice needs what and how to practice (Theorie. ..). For example, if someone can not play the guitar, such an instrument in the hand presses and says "play something!" , Then he will look at a helpless and perhaps aimlessly s.den pull strings. The result will sound terrible in every case.
When shooting, it is no different, except that there is a great risk that every Beginners thinks just because he can turn on a camcorder, press the record button and zoom out and her, he would have been capable of fabricating good movies. And this danger nearly all succumb Beginners.
Shooting is a complex process, which is important not only to capture images in different settings and each other, and staple, but you need to know how and why one synonymous one motive exactly the same way (filming or film) must, as it was filmed, and what we have to consider everything, so that the result is simply perfect. And that includes the theory of me out in parallel (but better to practice before it), otherwise is like the aimless guitar plucker only shit out there. And the worst part because an unplanned Filmer this "shit" do not even recognize himself, because he of his first film products is blinded erstmal so and everything is good, what's behind flickering on the screen.
As I said, buy your camcorder, but do you ask a favor, you at least put in parallel intensively with the theory. Otherwise, the 100 percent nix with the film school.



Antwort von 50Chris:

Okay, what exactly can I have your opinion, because s.theoretischen knowledge? So what prerequisites I need to durchzublicken at least a little.

Was just on the page, have recommended that you (movie-college.de). Since there are so many things that I do not know where to begin.

So, where should I start?



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"50Chris" wrote:
....

Since synonymous gibts noch 'nen cooles Video of the ComicCon, synonymous very motivating I think.

^ ^


Yes does not mean, however, motivate one moves through life with blinders on!

You play music you take a subject - why do not study you `Music!

Because you've probably already experienced in your "students" that there are some who can implement the simple direct super well what they are saying.

And then there are others which although some are good but not yet distinguish themselves.

And so is synonymous with the Film and Stillimage.

You want to go to film school ne - Face It still synonymous to many others!

And there are certainly people have diverged since childhood with the theme set.

So yes, I understand your desire to make movies but now views honestly

Can you give stories
Can you motivate people
Do you have dozens of ideas
Do you have technical know-how


They are with the most important things - it is not a professional Regiseur when you go to film school and ne one thinks there bekämme put things in and then would turn Hollywood stories.

.................

Purchase Dir nen ne camera, grab a pair of slip Stichpunktartig Write down ideas - build it with visual descriptions of experimental and you turn - clearly not a question but for that it'd do nen synonymous Mobile, ne SD Cam lent by the uncle or any halt.

I've already sollche and sollche people got to know I think I can judge very well who and what will stop those who do not.

Mostly it is people who perso. not block too much and just do something.

But who in the 12 th so get the idea "Hey, I time out Haette Bock" naja which will later turn off maybe once synonymous TV shows and nothing more.

I, however, with 12 already knew perfectly well that I someday wanted to be an actor or a cameraman or photographer. Ne Oh, that I even knew before. Ich habs me through this dream is not just done in my life and have chosen not synonymous sollch e training but then days and weeks to write with and draw pictures and film, and spent all read what I looked at my hands or was awarded as

And now with over 30 I can say "Yes my time will come" ... And if not I just die in hinterlass my friends brother to have lots of money and have lived my dream.

It is that simple flat.

.........................

Sorry, I'm always a little skeptical s.Anfang or an "ass" - ask the MoritzK times - but I am quite prepared synonymous help someone if I have a feeling that he / she can.

So go out to you Please bang ne Cam and show something.

MfG
B. DeKid

PS: But think off in 10 to 15 years, you need a home and a family diet can and should have fun s.deiner work and in life!



Antwort von shipoffools:

"50Chris" wrote:
Okay, what exactly can I have your opinion, because s.theoretischen knowledge? So what prerequisites I need to durchzublicken at least a little.

Was just on the page, have recommended that you (movie-college.de). Since there are so many things that I do not know where to begin.

So, where should I start?


At the Fast around the time related to movie-College of AZ to
for a start at first glance:
Axis jump
Connection Error
Exposure
Image design (Kadrage)
Image space
Aperture
script
Settings and setting variables
Soundtrack
Genres
Camera pan
Camera Tripods
all about light and lighting
Directing
Depth
Focus pull
all about sound and microphones
White balance (color temperature)

... and of course the respective sub-headings.
And bite you determine not only s.dieser Page, but try as much information as possible to draw from all possible sources (eg Slashcam ...)
(And the "textbook of film design," for example, already provides a great overview views about everything that has to do with the topic of film, including film history)
And learn to invent "stories" and relate to ...



Antwort von pilskopf:

I would cut this a little bit, what he is about sharpening drag them well informed if he is just 5 to 10 years? He will draw for ¬ 500 to buy a camcorder and filmed dmait, since it is unlikely to sharpen can and must. 60% I would spontaneously deleted from the list to take care of me first time to the essential: Story, that is a statement of the film, each movie must have a voltage curve and an explanation that satisfied. The cuts have to be good, the motives must be good and the location must be conducive to the atmosphere. We can not do everything at once appropriated, the most learned anzulesen synonymous without knowledge, practice makes perfect.



Antwort von 50Chris:

Finds schonmal good that people wirlich me try to help.

For example DeKid

Quote:
But who in the 12 th so get the idea "Hey, I time out Haette Bock" naja which will later turn off maybe once synonymous TV shows and nothing more.


I have long playing with the idea of becoming a director. I was always just as you have said already synonymous, the gedanke inhibited that I someday must pay the house and family.

On the other Page synonymous but I tell myself that life is too short to make it in a boring job that I hate to waste.
But as mentioned above, it may be natural that after I have dealt with the topic and even little movies have rotated realize that the whole thing is not for me.

May I ask what you do professionally?



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"50Chris" wrote:


May I ask what you do professionally?


Silly Sayings knocking;-D LOL

......................

I would say so

I speak both languages - that of the customer and that of the creatives.

Thus, I mediated between the two sides, and the wish fulfillment of so many.

........................

I do not believe that I want to put me in a category.

I'll make everything fun and I see myself as a creative challenge.

........................

I love working with creative and Freaks loathe to Poser.

Is that enough for you to respond first?

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von shipoffools:

"pilskopf" wrote:
... He will be able to attract to buy for 500 ¬ a camcorder and filmed dmait because it is unlikely to sharpen or need. 60% I would spontaneously deleted from the list to take care of me first time around the main ...


Since I would be interested but once that 60% because you'd spontaneously deleted from my list.
For me it all elementary points, with which he should have to deal in the beginning when he was seriously playing with the idea to s.einer apply to film school.
Over Schärfeziehen food for thought, but here I was thinking more to the manual to adjust sharpness synonymous s.einem cheap camcorder and less to the Schärfeziehen on a 35-mm camera.
One of the main points I have just forgotten in a hurry even more: cutting / assembly.



Antwort von pilskopf:

With your list you überforderst rough a beginner. Then his project is certainly nothing. Most of what you have listed are things that you learn quickly from experience itself, I think it is unfortunate when one simultaneously on too many things needs to focus and you think you have mastered all the rules of cinema and synonymous to apply. Do I have had. Yes I know cameramen, what shall I tell the truth, they have studied and learned all of what you've listed, and basically they can still shoot my film. They know the theory but not practice. And then they stand there with their camera and not even know where to begin to work through as they have learned in theory to all the points. They can not even begin to turn without a light meter 5x examined again to have because they have learned to hold off the books.



Antwort von 50Chris:

@ B. DeKid

Must be enough; D


I'll deal with the theory aufjedenfall times, but I see it just as pilskopf. Beginners list works for me as a rather large and many topics synonymous to work in theory.


Nor mal 'ne question camcorder. What I see in the description if I can have with the camera while recording drüberpacken effects (eg black and white, slow motion, time lapse, etc.)



Antwort von shipoffools:

Do you really think that it is overwhelming to deal with the listed and he tries to score and for them to take into account in its practice?
He will not make everything right straight away, not synonymous with a lot of theoretical knowledge on which we agree. Quite the contrary ...
But with the theoretical basics, he can try to avoid many mistakes already, and he gets to the outset of this synonymous perhaps a better eye for his mistakes. That the theory can not replace the practice with a lot of practice, hard work and sweat is clear and because it wants to prevent synonymous None.
But simply getting rid of film on it, without any prior knowledge nunmal I consider to be fatal. Because then recognize their mistakes synonymous as such and to find even the solutions that will cost him considerably more time and effort, as if he has a solid foundation.



Antwort von shipoffools:

PS: Also, my list does not claim to be exhaustive or even complete ... o)
If only a rough "guide" to be the beginning.

It's a long, long way ...



Antwort von pilskopf:

I would not say that would be rubbish but only that the list a deterrent. Yes, I'll start with the driving s.in not the first time I am learning is built like a car together. : D It will be only buy ne Camera and times are programmed into an editing reinfuchsen. Everything else he may then acquire, mostly out of necessity before you do the next because no one comes.



Antwort von DWUA:

"50Chris" wrote:

Hey,
have to go to my Abi on a film academy.


Mach's views rather just! Look at you on the spot to, come into the conversation
with the people there. In the cafeteria or the hallway.
We repeat ourselves but for the umpteenth time, but at least there
you will awaken from your dreams.
Not here.



Antwort von vidoc:

pilskopf versus shipoffools

hey 50Chris keep strictly s.pilskopf. Just look better at your favorite movies, it's up to you the story is no longer distracting (with / without sound) and then ask yourself what have since been actually "craft". Write it down.

Then write your script (3min film), storyboard movies, cut, and then judge, ask another. Oops, now wirds wohl ^ ^ But still time for theory, now you know why synonymous;)



Antwort von 50Chris:

Quote:
Just look better at your favorite movies, it's up to you the story is no longer distracting (with / without sound) and then ask yourself what have since been actually "craft". Write it down.

Then write your script (3min film), storyboard movies, cut, and then judge, ask another


Except for the latter's all done.

My Dvd Collection (100 movies) Sogut I know by heart, and as I've since been copied a lot.

+ storyboard script (more or less) for thy short film I already have. That is why I need a camera, so I finally got 's can start filming. ^ ^



Antwort von DWUA:

So Now you just have a corresponding HS for FF.
;))




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